Ukraine - Russia Conflict

We took months to capture heights of Kargil.
weeks to prepare, execute surgical strike after Uri, Balakot strike etc.

Of no relevance to a war with Pak. Especially in the plains.

And we didn't take weeks to prepare. It takes only hours to prepare, it takes weeks to wait for the right time, so enough people are assembled at the target before a strike takes place.
 
People in Europe base their conclusions on this war on modern Eastern European history, you base conclusions on grudges that are older than most of the people who harbour them and energy/military dependency.

WWIII will simply make sure their existence ends. It's better to remain unsure.

You think they didn't? Bin Laden was very rich and where was he found? ISIS had the backing of several states. And Al-Quaeda enjoyed backing from several states when it suited them.

Nothing about Putin's actions so far have been sane of believable. He is only expediating the demise he so fears. The Russian military has always been more about protecting the Kremlin from the people that protecting Russia. Very unwise to send tens of thousands to their deaths and then leave yourself unguarded.

What on earth are you talking about? I am referring to the post Cold War.

You will change your opinion on terrorism if Russia takes that road.

Russia is far more justified in fighting Ukraine than you are led to believe.
 
What on earth are you talking about? I am referring to the post Cold War.

You will change your opinion on terrorism if Russia takes that road.

Russia is far more justified in fighting Ukraine than you are led to believe.
The Cold War didn't end that long ago for most, most were still alive during it, and it still heavily influences the background of the current situation. Thinking that you can simply dismiss it is incredibly naive. That said, post Cold War, we have seen the annexations of Transnistria, South Ossetia and Crimea, plus the Donbass situation and MH17 (which was proven to have been a Russian-supplied system by investigators). It is known that Russia has also been agitating in the Baltics too, trying to cause a similar situation. People know what they're about.

Two can play that game. There's no particular reason why radical Muslims would prefer to attack Europe over Russia, and Russia already has baked in problems in Grozny and Dagestan. It would be an incredibly dumb road for either side to take TBH.

You've been conned. It's a sovereign country. Any disturbance in the Donbass was caused by Putin, the new Ukrainian government didn't just decide to start attacking ethnic Russians there after taking over to see if they could get Russia next door to invade them.
If that is due to howitzer fire, then most probably Krasnapol shell. If i am not wrong, the current Excalibur is like JDAM, can target only fixed targets.
Originally that was the case, but things have moved on.


That said, the vehicles were mostly static, and definitely are now.
 
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The Cold War didn't end that long ago for most, most were still alive during it, and it still heavily influences the background of the current situation. Thinking that you can simply dismiss it is incredibly naive. That said, post Cold War, we have seen the annexations of Transnistria, South Ossetia and Crimea, plus the Donbass situation and MH17 (which was proven to have been a Russian-supplied system by investigators). It is known that Russia has also been agitating in the Baltics too, trying to cause a similar situation. People know what they're about.

Two can play that game. There's no particular reason why radical Muslims would prefer to attack Europe over Russia, and Russia already has baked in problems in Grozny and Dagestan. It would be an incredibly dumb road for either side to take TBH.

You've been conned. It's a sovereign country. Any disturbance in the Donbass was caused by Putin, the new Ukrainian government didn't just decide to start attacking ethnic Russians there after taking over to see if they could get Russia next door to invade them.

Post Cold War, the Russians saw the annexations of Poland, Romania, Baltic etc, by NATO.

What game? They are already dealing with terrorism.

Lol, "sovereign", one of the biggest scam words in existence.
 
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Post Cold War, the Russians saw the annexations of Poland, Romania, Baltic etc, by NATO.

What game? They are already dealing with terrorism.

Lol, "sovereign", one of the biggest scam words in existence.
You don't understand what the term 'annexed' means. It means taking by force, illegally. If a country decides to join a particular group, that is not annexation. The EU did not annex France for instance, and neither did NATO. The same goes for Poland.

It's not from us. It's difficult to determine what exactly we're seeing in Russia, some are clearly military targets and may therefore be Ukrainian sabotage, others, like setting cars marked 'Z' on fire and shopping malls and recruitment offices are likely forms of domestic protest in a country where it's banned. Sakhalin Power Plant is also too far away from the front to be worth military sabotage.

It was an independent country trying hard to be a full democracy, with some little green men at work preventing the functioning of government.
but you are still here , :LOL:.
A lot of people are still here mate. A lot of people have families to care for.
 
Today Boris Johnson announced the transfer of "heavy drones" to Ukraine. These will probably be Malloy Aeronautics drones.
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They are burning well: the armored personnel carrier and the ammunition depot of the Russian occupiers were destroyed

Another extremely accurate shell.