Ukraine - Russia Conflict

I don't know who your informants are, but officially the Ukrainians have revealed that their casualties are 1000 a day in Donbas alone, and they also officially give the Russians the same number. Funny that... "Official" numbers... But what about actual numbers...

How bad do you think things really are if the Ukrainians are basically saying their casualties in Donbas alone are as much as Russian casualties across the entire front, while at the same time practically begging for more weapons supplies from NATO?

You will also notice that the Western media is slowly turning against Zelesnky. They are basically slowly preparing the public for bad news.

Do note casualties don't cover the number of Ukrainian PoWs taken. At least 2000-3000 are expected to surrender in the Hirske-Zolote region alone. Another 8000-12000 will get encircled by next week. The bridge at the oil refinery was destroyed, so the troops at Lysychansk have lost one of their main roads, cutting off access to the oil refinery from Lysychansk. And the second road towards Siversk has come under artillery fire control from two sides. Nobody in the West is talking about the massive amount of desertions and insubordinations too. Can't fight without food, fuel, weapons and fire support after all.
For a brief period they maybe did. But Russian has had 1200 casualties in one day in the last week and 800-1000 every other day. At times they have suffered nearly 1600-2000/day in the last month, and far more than that per day in the opening weeks. When you look at the amount of Russian equipment destroyed, that's quite conservative.
 
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That's basically what I'm saying. The Germans were out-resourced by the Allies, they never had a chance to win even when playing by the rules they set. Ukraine doesn't have the resources to fight. Russia has the same advantages the Allies had.

Plus the Russians seem to be creating the conditions necessary to mobilise for war. A victory in Severo-Lysy area, which would mean the 'liberation' of the Luhansk Oblast, followed by a domestic PR explosion by showing off territories captured, parading PoWs etc, will push the country's morale up. So the objective seems to be to break the will of the Ukrainians.
For Europe it does not even matter what one thinks the outcome will be. If Russia succeeds in taking land then they will go for more later, so the best option is to kill as many of them as possible for as long as possible, regardless of the eventual outcome. So trying to convince us that the result will be this or that is both meaningless and pointless.
 
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That's basically what I'm saying. The Germans were out-resourced by the Allies, they never had a chance to win even when playing by the rules they set. Ukraine doesn't have the resources to fight. Russia has the same advantages the Allies had.

Plus the Russians seem to be creating the conditions necessary to mobilise for war. A victory in Severo-Lysy area, which would mean the 'liberation' of the Luhansk Oblast, followed by a domestic PR explosion by showing off territories captured, parading PoWs etc, will push the country's morale up. So the objective seems to be to break the will of the Ukrainians.
When you say "allies" you don't include Russia/Soviets because the Russians were in the same boat Ukraine is right now relying on western aid. It was western aid (Lend lease) according to Stalin and Khrushchev that saved them from zee Germans and how ironic it is western aid to Ukraine that has kept Russia from achieving victory over a peasant nation just over its border. Also ironic like zee Germans, Russian resources (militarily) is running out relying on very old soviet era weapons while Ukraine has an open tap of western equipment.

You can't make this sht up.... seriously bruh.
 
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They don't though because there's a limited amount of forces Russia can deploy ultimately, for Ukraine they have the draft, so there is no upper limit. Russia will lose more troops as the aggressor and will be ground down and spread thin.

They are torching enlistment offices. There is very little support in Russia, the soldiers they are sending are amongst the world's dumbest, because no smart person would volunteer or believe any of Russia's propaganda.

Mobilisation will end those problems. When you mobilise, you either fight or go to jail.

For a brief period they maybe did. But Russian has had 1200 casualties in one day in the last week and 800-1000 every other day. At times they have suffered nearly 1600-2000/day in the last month, and far more than that per day in the opening weeks. When you look at the amount of Russian equipment destroyed, that's quite conservative.

All those are fake Ukrainian numbers. Hell, based on the numbers they released, common sense says the Russians have already been wiped out. Russian official figures are fake too.
 
When you say "allies" you don't include Russia/Soviets because the Russians were in the same boat Ukraine is right now relying on western aid. It was western aid (Lend lease) according to Stalin and Khrushchev that saved them from zee Germans and how ironic it is western aid to Ukraine that has kept Russia from achieving victory over a peasant nation just over its border. Also ironic like zee Germans, Russian resources (militarily) is running out relying on very old soviet era weapons while Ukraine has an open tap of western equipment.

You can't make this sht up.... seriously bruh.

The lend-lease compensated for civilian systems while the Soviets transitioned to a war economy. It happened because it worked in the favour of both sides. The same thing's not happening in Ukraine because this is modern warfare, not WW2-era warfare. Now there are missiles and aircraft that can shut down factories with precision.

This is something a lot of the Indian "we must be completely indigenous" folks also don't understand. Meaning, a country cannot fight a war with a large power without protecting production facilities.

And Western supplies to Ukraine are not coming in the numbers necessary. It's not even 1% of what's actually needed.
 
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Mobilisation will end those problems. When you mobilise, you either fight or go to jail.



All those are fake Ukrainian numbers. Hell, based on the numbers they released, common sense says the Russians have already been wiped out. Russian official figures are fake too.
That would mean calling it 'a war' though, which would make Putin look an ars for locking people up for doing just that. It would also become even more unpopular very fast. Right now the war only has limited popularity because idiots can cheer from the sidelines. Start sending them to The Hotel California and things will change.

Russia has sent many train and convoy loads of equipment and people to the war since in started. You know this if you've been following the thread. The original allocation of tanks and APCs is gone. They've used thousands of cruise missiles and Iskander-Ms since the war started. They'd used 2,000 cruise missiles (doesn't include Iskander-Ms) as of early May, and about the same again since. The US only used 955 in the Iraqi in 2003, and only 35 CALCM and 288 Tomahawks in Desert Storm. The Russians are far more stretched than you are capable of admitting.

Another Russian tank eats a Stugna-P.

 
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