Ukraine - Russia Conflict

west only allows or puts up a minority shwo to maintain the facade of freeness when little or no damage takes place. As we seen over the years when the damage is high their attitude is worse than autocratic or dictatorial countries. Its not that they dont commit crime its only they successfully coverup and walk away scot free. When every thing fails they brazen it out. Whether it is julian assange or else where , western freedom disappears into abyss of immorality when confronted with truth.


Nope, when there are significant protests in the West things change. That's why they are allowed in a democracy. Truth. All I've seen from Indians on twitter is a bunch of false equivalences like Iraq, Syria and Libya, where dictatorships were opposed and Russia either backed the dictator, or when the dictator was killed, it backed anarchy and blamed the NATO. They compose lists of wars that the US was involved in but don't remove the justified and UN backed ones. And also a brazen hatred of white people.

You can't expect normality to continue when a country faces an existential threat. It didn't in WWII either. This party was banned after the invasion. Russia killed all pro-Russian support in Ukraine when it invaded and made itself a terrorist entity. Various other parties were found to be connected to the DPR in the last 8 years too. The DPR also broke the Minsk agreement twice.

Whatever, it's one thing being a Russian dependency, but all these posts just for the privilege of lying to yourself? Give it a rest.
 
Add to the agreements broken , 2002 EU-Russia transit agreement on kaliningrad transit. This was negotiated as lithuania joining EU would make kaliningrad totally surrounded by NATO. Russia agreed for lithuania joining EU based on guarantee that access to kaliningrad will be preserved.

As usual west did what it is famous for accepting them when it suits them and dumping them when it doesnt. Now they will go around shedding crocodile tears on how russia is threatening a small country like lithuania.
That's a sanction added due to the invasion of Ukraine and multiple war crimes. Not that Kaliningrad was ever really Russian anyway. It was just another part of Europe it annexed after WWII.

You can't expect business as usual when you invade a neighbouring democracy, commit several massacres and rapes, deny it, and then bomb a shopping mall, a block of flats and a pre-school in the space of 48 hours. Are you insane or something?
What's the problem?
 
US is knee deep in the conflict and not on the side lines

This war has nothing to do with democracy or freedom or correcting past injustices
US is only toes in.

Disagree. If you're aware of the history between Russia and Ukraine it's impossible to say that. And this whole thing started when Yanukovych betrayed his democratic mandate in 2013. For Ukraine it's very much about that, regardless of opinions as to why NATO is backing them.
 
That's one sick horror terror on civilians.

More than 1000 civilians men women elderly children & babies inside at the time of attack.:cry:😰
I think Putin is becoming Trump like. Just emphasizing that he doesn't care, while being a complete arshat. And then throwing up his whataboutist meme on Twitter.
That's referring to what they can do before 6 months time if you listen carefully.
 
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HiMARS strikes again. Some reports are saying many dead.

Pretty far from frontlines too.
This is how to repay them for killing civilians. Kill them, not civilians.
That's one sick horror terror on civilians.

More than 1000 civilians men women elderly children & babies inside at the time of attack.:cry:😰
 
You are missing the point completely. When Ukraine took out 3 Russian ammo dumps in the space of 24 hours and de-railed a train, Russia responded to 3 $110k rockets with dozens of cruise missiles costing several million each. And many of them were shot down or hit civilian targets. That isn't a winning strategy.

The easier answer is you are trying to relate to the unrelatable.

Even before the HIMARS came into Ukraine, the Russians had warned Ukr to cease attacking civilians in Donbas with artillery. The 'or else' bit was Russian attacks at positions of power in Kiev. So that's what's happening,. It started off with a massive attack on a command post that killed a lot of Ukr generals and other officers in depth areas. This has nothing to do with HIMARS.
 
Things which are true but depending on your side you’ll accept deny

Russian forces have been fought to a halt by a massive behind the scenes campaign by NATO

Ukraine isn’t all innocent

Putin is a cunt

US is knee deep in the conflict and not on the side lines

This war has nothing to do with democracy or freedom or correcting past injustices

Pretty much. Both sides are the bad guys.

As the types of weapon systems Ukraine gets escalates it's only a matter of time before US starts sending them ATACM and Tomahawk missiles. It wouldn't surprise me if they start sending M1 tanks and Bradleys we sure have a crap load of them in storage and in good condition.

It won't escalate to the extent where Ukr can attack Russia in Russia, but more sophisticated defensive wepaons could come in, like the NASAMS.
 
The easier answer is you are trying to relate to the unrelatable.

Even before the HIMARS came into Ukraine, the Russians had warned Ukr to cease attacking civilians in Donbas with artillery. The 'or else' bit was Russian attacks at positions of power in Kiev. So that's what's happening,. It started off with a massive attack on a command post that killed a lot of Ukr generals and other officers in depth areas. This has nothing to do with HIMARS.
If Russian troops are around civilians then artillery barrages are inevitably going to hit some. Russia has done the same thing, this has been going on for 4 months now, it's not new (actually 8 years really), so the connection you are drawing is false. Targeting shopping malls with guided missiles is deliberate manslaughter. The fact is that the war is only happening at all because Russia is invading Ukraine.
 
It's a false flag.


At least one Russian official appeared to make the claim that the missile strike was a false flag. Dmitry Polyansky, Russia’s deputy permanent representative to the U.N., called it a Ukrainian "provocation" on Twitter and mentioned Bucha, a suburb of Kyiv where hundreds were found in mass graves after Russian occupation.

No wait, it was fire caused by debris from attack on nearby ammunition dump. A fire that blew off the walls and roof? :unsure:



 
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