Ukraine - Russia Conflict


I just love how every time Russians retreat from an a s s kicking they call it a goodwill gesture. :ROFLMAO:

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So I'm surprised that a 155mm SP howitzer has that kind of range.

 
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Russians withdraw old military equipment from storage on Sakhalin and in Kaliningrad​

 
Separate units of the Ukrainian army began to leave Lisichansk under the blows of Russian artillery. The Ukrainian command ordered the units to leave the city so as not to be surrounded by the Russian army. In order to minimize losses, the Armed Forces of Ukraine were ordered to retreat in small groups with a large interval and distance.” Earlier it became known that the territory of the Lisichansk oil refinery was taken under control by the forces of the Russian Army.

 
Red arrow is camera angle, note blue and white containers and yellow crane. Green arrow points to tree line.

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That strike seem to have hit the teams north east of the mall. It's the same treeline seen in the video and the image of the aftermath also seem to suggest that.
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So why did they offer 5 different version of 'the truth' beforehand?

Denial -> False flag by NATO -> Debris set fire -> Munition flew off and hit mall -> Missile went off course.

It's propaganda vs counter propaganda, meant for idiots.

Ukranian propaganda : Russians intentionally hit mall to kill civilians, act of evil, war crime.

Russian propaganda: No strike hit mall, fire may be caused by ammunition flew off from factory.

Truth: Russians didn't hit the mall deliberately to kill civilians, they fired 6 missiles, 5 hit the factory ( a military target), one missed and hit the north east corner of the mall compound.
 
Separate units of the Ukrainian army began to leave Lisichansk under the blows of Russian artillery. The Ukrainian command ordered the units to leave the city so as not to be surrounded by the Russian army. In order to minimize losses, the Armed Forces of Ukraine were ordered to retreat in small groups with a large interval and distance.” Earlier it became known that the territory of the Lisichansk oil refinery was taken under control by the forces of the Russian Army.


Ukranians seem to be retreating to a new line west. Better than getting encircled and destroyed. It's not clear how much damage Russians are able to inflict on retreating Ukranian troops. Retreating through a route fire controlled by enemy is not fun.


Russians also crossed the siverskyi donetsk river in the north and captured "pryvillya", creating a bridgehead. This Indicates that the Ukranian defenders in the north already retreated and last road out in the north is also under fire control from north. Earlier attempts to cross the river were all ended in failures. If the Russians advance south and capture Novodruzhesk, it will give Russia huge advantage. Novodruzhesk overlook lysychansk and that makes Russian attack on the city much easier.

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That strike seem to have hit the teams north east of the mall. It's the same treeline seen in the video and the image of the aftermath also seem to suggest that.
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It's propaganda vs counter propaganda, meant for idiots.

Ukranian propaganda : Russians intentionally hit mall to kill civilians, act of evil, war crime.

Russian propaganda: No strike hit mall, fire may be caused by ammunition flew off from factory.

Truth: Russians didn't hit the mall deliberately to kill civilians, they fired 6 missiles, 5 hit the factory ( a military target), one missed and hit the north east corner of the mall compound.
As per ukranians around 1000 ppl were present at the busy mall, if that were to be true and missile hit was direct then casualties would have been way too higher than 10-20 that is being reported.
 
Ukranians seem to be retreating to a new line west. Better than getting encircled and destroyed. It's not clear how much damage Russians are able to inflict on retreating Ukranian troops. Retreating through a route fire controlled by enemy is not fun.


Russians also crossed the siverskyi donetsk river in the north and captured "pryvillya", creating a bridgehead. This Indicates that the Ukranian defenders in the north already retreated and last road out in the north is also under fire control from north. Earlier attempts to cross the river were all ended in failures. If the Russians advance south and capture Novodruzhesk, it will give Russia huge advantage. Novodruzhesk overlook lysychansk and that makes Russian attack on the city much easier.

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Its going to be another bloody urban battle , only way russians can move fast is if they cut off supply lines if not this is going to painfully drag on.
Ukranians on the other hand will booby trap, mine the area and destroy each & everything before they leave.
 
Why all the world is sending civilian fighters to Ukraine to fight Russia?
Isn't that the same as some Muslim countries sending fighters to fight alongside Taliban against USA?
 
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That strike seem to have hit the teams north east of the mall. It's the same treeline seen in the video and the image of the aftermath also seem to suggest that.
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It's propaganda vs counter propaganda, meant for idiots.

Ukranian propaganda : Russians intentionally hit mall to kill civilians, act of evil, war crime.

Russian propaganda: No strike hit mall, fire may be caused by ammunition flew off from factory.

Truth: Russians didn't hit the mall deliberately to kill civilians, they fired 6 missiles, 5 hit the factory ( a military target), one missed and hit the north east corner of the mall compound.
The teams? What teams? It's a car park and a treeline.

NATO said right from the start a Kh-22 fired from a Tu-22M3 hit a mall. How come NATO got the story straight first time?
Why all the world is sending civilian fighters to Ukraine to fight Russia?
Isn't that the same as some Muslim countries sending fighters to fight alongside Taliban against USA?
They aren't, they are going because they believe in the fight. Dictatorship is a form of imprisonment.

Not the same no. This is one of those amazing false equivalences quite prevalent on twitter.
 
As per ukranians around 1000 ppl were present at the busy mall, if that were to be true and missile hit was direct then casualties would have been way too higher than 10-20 that is being reported.
They are still finding people, 18 is only the current figure.
 
The equipment of the Russians is lined up somewhere in the east

France will hand over 6 more Caesar howitzers and armored vehicles to Ukraine, - Macron

The sanctions are beginning to bite.

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