Ukraine - Russia Conflict

They have dude, even the 2nd line in one place.

The first line is 17Km away from the line of contact. UAF hasn't even reached the first line of defence yet, they are just 3Km in.

You can't attack across a wide silt bed regardless of whether there's water on it. Occam's Razor says the simplest explanation is right. Russian was in control of the dam, only it had access, it was easiest for it to blow the dam. It did it to divert Ukrainian resources at the moment the counter-offensive began. Your shallower water argument would require an actual assault from that direction to back it up, there is none, therefore you are unequivocally wrong.

The enemy attacks what the other side controls.

How come they've lost so many aircraft then? Why are they using expensive cruise missiles to attack Ukrainian cities instead of bombs. They only have air parity over the battlefront, they poke a bit and the run.

Considering the scale of the war and pre-existing UAF ADGE, they haven't lost a lot.
 
The first line is 17Km away from the line of contact. UAF hasn't even reached the first line of defence yet, they are just 3Km in.
Bwahahahaha. More progress in 2 days than Russia in 2 months.
The enemy attacks what the other side controls.
The enemy attacks the other side, they don't flood their own people for no good reason. They certainly don't smuggle tons of explosive underwater for a mile to flood their own people, just so that they have to expend loads resources rescuing them, for zero gain. Who gives a crap about water in Crimea? That doesn't help their offensive.
Considering the scale of the war and pre-existing UAF ADGE, they haven't lost a lot.
:ROFLMAO: It's a disaster by Gulf War standards. The only thing they've done is standoff and front line poking at low alt.
 
Cheaper resources and massive oil laundering payoff.

That's peanuts.

But you hate Europe and the West anyway, so why would you care about that?

You're just a dumbarse. I don't hate anybody. Only the West sheeple see everything from the prism of love and hate, like the world is some sort of romance novel.

There are no friends and enemies, only interests. An enemy today can become a friend tomorrow.
 
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Did Pakistan lose ECM facilities in 2019? India just hit some houses on the border, standoff weapons will be the primary means of future major SEAD missions, like the AGM 88G increasing its range or using cruise missiles to stay empty for long periods time

After using the full capabilities of your ECM, you have to replace the entire system.

It's the same with radar and any other antenna that can emit. Once its full capabilities have been demonstrated, the only choice left is to replace it all because the enemy will develop countermeasures against those systems. So PAF is currently in the process of replacing its EW capabilities, all because they showed off way too much to the IAF.

Russia is facing the same problem. If they demonstrate full capabilities against Ukraine, then NATO will get the time to develop countermeasures, like they did with Patriot and Kinzhal, where they had 1 year to create countermeasures against the missile. So Russia has not used other more advanced missiles like Zircon and Oniks consistently to prevent NATO from learning more about such systems. If they show off full SEAD/DEAD capabilities, then their systems will be compromised in case NATO joins the war.

Most electronics are meant to be used only in one war.
 
That's peanuts.
Yeah, so give it up then and stop supporting the invasion of Europe.
You're just a dumbarse. I don't hate anybody. Only the West sheeple see everything from the prism of love and hate, like the world is some sort of romance novel.
No, it's a simple matter of right and wrong. 'To be or not to be' is not a compromise. Either Ukraine is allowed to be, or it is not.
There are no friends and enemies, only interests. An enemy today can become a friend tomorrow.
You're going to have a whole shitload of enemies tomorrow buddy. The way things stand at the moment, Europeans would probably laugh if China invaded some of your territories.
 
If you want any relations between Europe and Russia you need the Russian military out of Ukraine, because there will never be any relations whilst it's there.

It's too late now. Europe and Russia are now entering an arms race alongside the US and China.

Russia will finish the war on its own terms and Europe will have to live with it.
 
It's too late now. Europe and Russia are now entering an arms race alongside the US and China.

Russia will finish the war on its own terms and Europe will have to live with it.
Russia is going to be in this war for a very, very long time unless it choosing to leave. Europe isn't living with it. Russian relations with Europe are over until it leaves.
Against air defences not prepped to fight NATO.
What does that even mean? Your excuses are shite. No SEAD, no air superiority.
 
After using the full capabilities of your ECM, you have to replace the entire system.

It's the same with radar and any other antenna that can emit. Once its full capabilities have been demonstrated, the only choice left is to replace it all because the enemy will develop countermeasures against those systems. So PAF is currently in the process of replacing its EW capabilities, all because they showed off way too much to the IAF.

Russia is facing the same problem. If they demonstrate full capabilities against Ukraine, then NATO will get the time to develop countermeasures, like they did with Patriot and Kinzhal, where they had 1 year to create countermeasures against the missile. So Russia has not used other more advanced missiles like Zircon and Oniks consistently to prevent NATO from learning more about such systems. If they show off full SEAD/DEAD capabilities, then their systems will be compromised in case NATO joins the war.

Most electronics are meant to be used only in one war.
Yeah, or Zircon is not ready, and Oniks is too slow for anyone to care, and Storm Shadow continues to hit Russian high value targets at will. :ROFLMAO:
 
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Yeah, so give it up then and stop supporting the invasion of Europe.

It's the other way around. The Europeans should stop supporting American interference in Europe.

No, it's a simple matter of right and wrong. 'To be or not to be' is not a compromise. Either Ukraine is allowed to be, or it is not.

You've lost on that front 9 years ago.

You're going to have a whole shitload of enemies tomorrow buddy. The way things stand at the moment, Europeans would probably laugh if China invaded some of your territories.

Nah, we good. We have been doing our own thing for the last 61 years. In fact, we see Western help as the biggest reason for our past failures, both in 1949 (UN resolution on Kashmir illegally favouring Pakistan) and 1962 (fake US intelligence that contributed significantly to India's defeat against China). The West betrayed us both times. Ever since then, we have decided to go on our own. Ever since then, we've been kickin' a** and taking names. So it's in our interests that the US and Europe do nothing when we are dealing with China. In fact, that's why the US has not criticised China over their actions in Ladakh, it was exclusively due to Indian instructions to not interfere.
 
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It's the other way around. The Europeans should stop supporting American interference in Europe.
You should go f*ck yourself in the *censored*. Europeans don't want Russia advancing west and it's Ukraine's choice.
You've lost on that front 9 years ago.
Russia invaded Ukraine 9 years ago. Russia will keep dying until it leaves, simple as that.
Nah, we good. We have been doing our own thing for the last 61 years. In fact, we see Western help as the biggest reason for our past failures, both in 1949 (UN resolution on Kashmir illegally favouring Pakistan) and 1962 (fake US intelligence that contributed significantly to India's defeat against China). The West betrayed us both times. Ever since then, we have decided to go on our own. Ever since then, we've been kickin' a** and taking names. So it's in our interests that the US and Europe do nothing when we are dealing with China. In fact, that's why the US has not criticised China over their actions in Ladakh, it was exclusively due to Indian instructions to not interfere.
Good, we'll enjoy laughing. You've betrayed us now, so expect the same in return.
 
Russia is going to be in this war for a very, very long time unless it choosing to leave. Europe isn't living with it. Russian relations with Europe are over until it leaves.

Sure.

What does that even mean? Your excuses are shite. No SEAD, no air superiority.

Iraqi air defences were only suitable for a fight against another Third World air force like Iran, not NATO. Apart from their air force and IADS being one to 1.5 generations behind NATO, their command and control was only at 10-15% of the capability needed to fight NATO.

There are only two IADS in the world today that can fight NATO, and those are Russian and Chinese, and before that it was only the SU. And the Chinese got theirs only 5 years ago. India is still 10 years away, we only have localised IADS. And 10 years down the line too, it will only be in a few important economic areas. China is in a similar situation, but it's more NATO-focused whereas India is more China/Pak-focused.
Yeah, or Zircon is not ready, and Oniks is too slow for anyone to care, and Storm Shadow continues to hit Russian high value targets at will. :ROFLMAO:

Zircon's been operational since 2017.
 
Believe it, Russia is gone from European trade relations. Probably for the rest of this century with the current regime.
Iraqi air defences were only suitable for a fight against another Third World air force like Iran, not NATO. Apart from their air force and IADS being one to 1.5 generations behind NATO, their command and control was only at 10-15% of the capability needed to fight NATO.
There's no such thing. NATO SEAD relies on swamping defences, Pk and quality is irrelevant.

There are only two IADS in the world today that can fight NATO, and those are Russian and Chinese, and before that it was only the SU. And the Chinese got theirs only 5 years ago. India is still 10 years away, we only have localised IADS. And 10 years down the line too, it will only be in a few important economic areas. China is in a similar situation, but it's more NATO-focused whereas India is more China/Pak-focused.
You have localised AIDS by the sound of things. You should get that seen too.
 
You should go f*ck yourself in the *censored*. Europeans don't want Russia advancing west and it's Ukraine's choice.

Russia invaded Ukraine 9 years ago. Russia will keep dying until it leaves, simple as that.

Lol.

Good, we'll enjoy laughing. You've betrayed us now, so expect the same in return.

No, you won't. 'Cause the long term survrival of the West lies in India.

And we didn't betray anybody. You merely assumed we are on your side, but in reality we are the biggest political Switzerland in the world.
 
Believe it, Russia is gone from European trade relations. Probably for the rest of this century with the current regime.

Lol, sure, it hurts Europe more than Russia.

There's no such thing. NATO SEAD relies on swamping defences, Pk and quality is irrelevant.

:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

You have localised AIDS by the sound of things. You should get that seen too.

That level of butt-hurt. :ROFLMAO:
 
After using the full capabilities of your ECM, you have to replace the entire system.

It's the same with radar and any other antenna that can emit. Once its full capabilities have been demonstrated, the only choice left is to replace it all because the enemy will develop countermeasures against those systems. So PAF is currently in the process of replacing its EW capabilities, all because they showed off way too much to the IAF.
I think you lack a basic understanding of electronic warfare. If you say so, do Americans need to retire EA 18G after using it? Even the simplest noise jamming in electronic warfare uses a lot of clutter to drown out your radar reports and communications,You don't have to replace the whole system,In 2019 India was taught a lesson, simply all of India's Air Force electronic warfare capabilities, Lack of a unified consideration, relying solely on self-defense electronic warfare pods bought from Israel and France
 
Russia is facing the same problem. If they demonstrate full capabilities against Ukraine, then NATO will get the time to develop countermeasures, like they did with Patriot and Kinzhal, where they had 1 year to create countermeasures against the missile. So Russia has not used other more advanced missiles like Zircon and Oniks consistently to prevent NATO from learning more about such systems. If they show off full SEAD/DEAD capabilities, then their systems will be compromised in case NATO joins the war.

Most electronics are meant to be used only in one war
Your basic logic is that as long as a weapon is used on the battlefield, it is useless. So how did Abinandan get shot down by AIM 120? AIM 120 has been widely used since the beginning of the Yugoslav War
 
Nah, we good. We have been doing our own thing for the last 61 years. In fact, we see Western help as the biggest reason for our past failures, both in 1949 (UN resolution on Kashmir illegally favouring Pakistan) and 1962 (fake US intelligence that contributed significantly to India's defeat against China). The West betrayed us both times. Ever since then, we have decided to go on our own. Ever since then, we've been kickin' a** and taking names. So it's in our interests that the US and Europe do nothing when we are dealing with China. In fact, that's why the US has not criticised China over their actions in Ladakh, it was exclusively due to Indian instructions to not interfere
In 1962 Nehru called the US again and asked them to send out bombers