Ukraine - Russia Conflict

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You mean like they allegedly used the Su-57, except didn't.

The Russians themselves have state that they are. The fortifications are not so far from the front in the Robotyne-Verbove area NE of Tokmak. And once they have taken one they can turn it against the Russians.

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It's not the first line of defence.

And Liveua exaggerates Ukrainian gains, while taking their time for Russian gains. It's a Western propaganda map.
 
It's not the first line of defence.

And Liveua exaggerates Ukrainian gains, while taking their time for Russian gains. It's a Western propaganda map.
Nope, it takes a long to time to update gains in case they might not be stable.

They have reached the first line of fortifications. The fortifications will likely be far less of a problem than the mines - there has been 1 every 1.5m in some places - that's what's taking the time.
 
Nope, it takes a long to time to update gains in case they might not be stable.

They have reached the first line of fortifications. The fortifications will likely be far less of a problem than the mines - there has been 1 every 1.5m in some places - that's what's taking the time.

Liveua updates happen as soon as there's official announcement from the UAF side, whether it's true or a lie. They take forever for Russian updates.

Fortifications were there at the line of contact even before the offensive began.

The first line is south of Novoprokopivka, at Ilchenkove, and also north of Verbove. You should learn how to read maps.

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The map is very clear about UAF's position today. There are at least three lines of fortifications and a large village before the first line of defence behind Robotyne. The main battlefield is south of Solodka Balka, ie, Russia's killing fields, with Dragon Teeth and tank trenches.

Before Solodka Balka are defences that are meant to fall.
 
Liveua updates happen as soon as there's official announcement from the UAF side, whether it's true or a lie. They take forever for Russian updates.
That's definitely wrong.
Fortifications were there at the line of contact even before the offensive began.

The first line is south of Novoprokopivka, at Ilchenkove, and also north of Verbove. You should learn how to read maps.

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The map is very clear about UAF's position today. There are at least three lines of fortifications and a large village before the first line of defence behind Robotyne. The main battlefield is south of Solodka Balka, ie, Russia's killing fields, with Dragon Teeth and tank trenches.

Before Solodka Balka are defences that are meant to fall.
Your map is over-simplified and as such, is a misrepresentation, there are several lines of fortified defence.

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That's definitely wrong.

Your map is over-simplified and as such, is a misrepresentation, there are several lines of fortified defence.

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There are many fortifications starting from the line of contact, but the red line I drew is the first line of defence.

"The main defence line, still 15-20 km from Ukrainian positions, has properly dug trenches and concrete-reinforced firing posts, tank obstacles, ground-laid cable to coordinate artillery strikes, and even more mines," he wrote.

Those defenses are backed by a line of reserve forces, Watling added, noting that as Ukrainian forces pushed against Russian lines, "the fighting will likely get tougher."


As mentioned in the article, all the defences the UAF has come across are simple trenches, they are not defences. They are only meant for the screening forces to hide and take cover, fire ATGMs, call artillery and air strikes, retreat, counter-attack, and so on. These are not defensive lines.

The main defensive lines have all sorts of traps and mortar, gun and artillery emplacements, pill boxes, bunkers and so on.



 
There are many fortifications starting from the line of contact, but the red line I drew is the first line of defence.

"The main defence line, still 15-20 km from Ukrainian positions, has properly dug trenches and concrete-reinforced firing posts, tank obstacles, ground-laid cable to coordinate artillery strikes, and even more mines," he wrote.

Those defenses are backed by a line of reserve forces, Watling added, noting that as Ukrainian forces pushed against Russian lines, "the fighting will likely get tougher."


As mentioned in the article, all the defences the UAF has come across are simple trenches, they are not defences. They are only meant for the screening forces to hide and take cover, fire ATGMs, call artillery and air strikes, retreat, counter-attack, and so on. These are not defensive lines.

The main defensive lines have all sorts of traps and mortar, gun and artillery emplacements, pill boxes, bunkers and so on.



So your 'first line of defence' is actually not the first line of defence. Glad we got that cleared up.
 
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Our philosophy of Dharma is very progressive, it will take root someday, even if nobody cares about the religious aspects of Hinduism, just like yoga.

Rumour mill says it must be for the Gurkhas, but it's also possible someone confused Hindu Swastika with the Nazi Hakenkreuz.
 
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