Ukraine - Russia Conflict

Lol. The UAF is the one unprepared, driving into mines and such. The issue being the troops haven't received enough training and equipment.
It's not like no Russians drove into mines. There's literally 1 mine every 1.5m. Russia used rocket projectors to spam them because they can't fight effectively themselves.
They don't even have enough infantry, never mind heavy weapons and artillery.
Yeah, they do. Russia has been consistently losing territory for the last 3.5 weeks, all the way from the Dnieper to Soledar. It's slow progress, but it's across a very wide front.
 
It's not like no Russians drove into mines. There's literally 1 mine every 1.5m. Russia used rocket projectors to spam them because they can't fight effectively themselves.

Sure, sure, the Russians are playing unfairly. Oh, no.

That's why all our tanks are getting it. And it's British.
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And it's peanuts.
1,512 Mine Plough (MP) for Tank T-90 S/SK at an approximate cost of Rs 557 crore

That's $67M in all. Something the UK can easily fund for every single UAF tank.

Yeah, they do. Russia has been consistently losing territory for the last 3.5 weeks, all the way from the Dnieper to Soledar. It's slow progress, but it's across a very wide front.

You mean 8 villages, which the Russians themselves abandoned, and will be abandoning more pretty soon?
 
Sure, sure, the Russians are playing unfairly. Oh, no.

That's why all our tanks are getting it. And it's British.
It's irresponsible, they'll likely kill civilians for years to come after the war.
And it's peanuts.
1,512 Mine Plough (MP) for Tank T-90 S/SK at an approximate cost of Rs 557 crore

That's $67M in all. Something the UK can easily fund for every single UAF tank.



You mean 8 villages, which the Russians themselves abandoned, and will be abandoning more pretty soon?
It's more than 8 mate. There's 8 in a single cluster below Velyka Novosilka. And what did Russia achieve over 6 months prior, a large town and a small town. And the outfit that achieved that has now been disbanded and the Russian state has gone on record saying that it was anything but efficient.
 
It's irresponsible, they'll likely kill civilians for years to come after the war.

Nobody tends to care about such things during a war.

It's more than 8 mate. There's 8 in a single cluster below Velyka Novosilka. And what did Russia achieve over 6 months prior, a large town and a small town. And the outfit that achieved that has now been disbanded and the Russian state has gone on record saying that it was anything but efficient.

It's still 8. Another 3 or 4 more are contested. The UAF fought for Bakhmut and Soledar, but the Russians are not trying to hold these villages. The UAF is taking so many losses that they are retreating after taking over villages, which the Russians then reoccupy. After enough of the structures and defences are destroyed, the Russians perform a tactical withdrawal and allow the Ukrainians to keep whatever's left. So with each cycle of attacks and counterattacks, the UAF keeps taking more and more losses. So now they have decided to commit to attrition warfare until the Russian numbers are further reduced before bringing larger formations in.

Wagner is still around. Prigozhin was moved to Belarus to continue to do Russia's bidding, but via Belarus. So they are gonna continue fighting Russia's enemies. Basically, things have gotten way worse for Ukraine. Wagner is expected to climb back up to 25 to 40k troops. So, with the help of a Russian CAA, they can start making a push towards Western Ukraine, perhaps even Kiev. This will force the UAF to stop the counteroffensive.
 
It's naturally fake.
I don't care about the veracity of the number itself, but about the trends that they indicate. That they focus on invader artillery is undeniable. There's also been plenty of video evidence of that, so the true number of destroyed Russian artillery is still greater than zero, no matter how much you wish it weren't.

Russian artillery is the number one problem for them. Remove the artillery and a path can be cleared safely through the minefields. Clear a path through the minefields and fortified positions can be bypassed and surrounded by mechanized assault.

Still, they make good progress. They move forward much faster than the Russian did; despite Russia retaining air superiority and having a massive artillery advantage. As a reminder, the only place where Russia has been able to advance at all this past year has been Bakhmut and that was thanks to Wagner's veteran NCOs (something the Russian army itself doesn't really have) and a large number of disposable convicts for endless meat assaults.

In order to cut off the land bridge, the UAF has to physically occupy Berdyansk.
Not necessarily. First, getting the road under fire control is enough to interdict Russian logistics. Second, there's Molochny Lyman next to Melitopol, that pinches the landbridge at this point. There's less than 75 km between Tokmak and the shore of Molochny Lyman, so you can cover any moving column with GMLRS.

Basically, if Tokmak falls, then pretty quickly the entire Kherson/Zaporizhzhia area can be liberated as Russian logistics get cut and they can't reinforce the western frontline anymore.
Wagner is expected to climb back up to 25 to 40k troops.
With what people? Are they gonna start recruiting in Mali and in CAR? Their recruitment offices in Russia have been closed down, and it was already hard to get the numbers they could get before the fall of Bakhmut when they were allowed to empty Russian prisons...

And also, with what money? Prigozhin's industrial empire is getting dismantled so it's not with the profits from Concord or RIA FAN that he'll maintain these troops. There's still all the mines he controls in Africa, but will they suffice? He may also be getting funds from Belarus now, in exchange for training the Belarussian troops, but that country does not have the primary resource wealth of Russia.

The UAF fought for Bakhmut and Soledar, but the Russians are not trying to hold these villages.
LOL yes they are. Bakhmut is the single victory Russia has to crow about for the last year. Losing it would be a tremendous blow to Russian morale both on the frontline and in the country. It's Russia's Stalingrad.
 
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Nobody tends to care about such things during a war.
You mean Russia doesn't care.
It's still 8. Another 3 or 4 more are contested. The UAF fought for Bakhmut and Soledar, but the Russians are not trying to hold these villages. The UAF is taking so many losses that they are retreating after taking over villages, which the Russians then reoccupy. After enough of the structures and defences are destroyed, the Russians perform a tactical withdrawal and allow the Ukrainians to keep whatever's left. So with each cycle of attacks and counterattacks, the UAF keeps taking more and more losses. So now they have decided to commit to attrition warfare until the Russian numbers are further reduced before bringing larger formations in.
It's 15 as of this morning, with Russia kicked out of almost as many more. Russia is also suffering 4000-5000 fatalities per week in the process
Wagner is still around. Prigozhin was moved to Belarus to continue to do Russia's bidding, but via Belarus. So they are gonna continue fighting Russia's enemies. Basically, things have gotten way worse for Ukraine. Wagner is expected to climb back up to 25 to 40k troops. So, with the help of a Russian CAA, they can start making a push towards Western Ukraine, perhaps even Kiev. This will force the UAF to stop the counteroffensive.
They'll get a surprise if they enter Western Ukraine. ;) Equally another assault of Kyiv now would put Belarussian bases in the crosshairs now that Ukraine has HIMARS and Storm Shadow. Ukraine has also fortified Northern positions, it wouldn't be as easy as last time, even though last time failed too.

It'd be funny if Wagner attacked Moscow again. That would be hilarious.
" FVP drones started flying in after the Iskander strike destroyed Ukrainian EW systems under the bridge. "

They still trying to dislodge that small unit from the left bank of the Dnieper?:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
I don't care about the veracity of the number itself, but about the trends that they indicate. That they focus on invader artillery is undeniable. There's also been plenty of video evidence of that, so the true number of destroyed Russian artillery is still greater than zero, no matter how much you wish it weren't.

Russian artillery is the number one problem for them. Remove the artillery and a path can be cleared safely through the minefields. Clear a path through the minefields and fortified positions can be bypassed and surrounded by mechanized assault.

Still, they make good progress. They move forward much faster than the Russian did; despite Russia retaining air superiority and having a massive artillery advantage. As a reminder, the only place where Russia has been able to advance at all this past year has been Bakhmut and that was thanks to Wagner's veteran NCOs (something the Russian army itself doesn't really have) and a large number of disposable convicts for endless meat assaults.

Just saying the numbers are fake. Oryx lists 128 TGs, 294 SPHs and 156 MLRS, as of today. That's 422/156, not 4288/656. Even if we understand Oryx is the minimum, the gap between real images and the propaganda numbers is too much for it to be real.

Not necessarily. First, getting the road under fire control is enough to interdict Russian logistics. Second, there's Molochny Lyman next to Melitopol, that pinches the landbridge at this point. There's less than 75 km between Tokmak and the shore of Molochny Lyman, so you can cover any moving column with GMLRS.

Basically, if Tokmak falls, then pretty quickly the entire Kherson/Zaporizhzhia area can be liberated as Russian logistics get cut and they can't reinforce the western frontline anymore.

Incorrect. In order to cut the land bridge, the UAF has to either take Melitopol or Berdyansk, with Tokmak being the absolute minimum.

The other areas can be supplied from both Crimea and Donbas.

With what people? Are they gonna start recruiting in Mali and in CAR? Their recruitment offices in Russia have been closed down, and it was already hard to get the numbers they could get before the fall of Bakhmut when they were allowed to empty Russian prisons...

The coup has helped establish martial law. Now the Kremlin is forcing conscripts to sign multi-year contracts.

And also, with what money? Prigozhin's industrial empire is getting dismantled so it's not with the profits from Concord or RIA FAN that he'll maintain these troops. There's still all the mines he controls in Africa, but will they suffice? He may also be getting funds from Belarus now, in exchange for training the Belarussian troops, but that country does not have the primary resource wealth of Russia.

Wagner will be recruiting from Russia. For now, recruitment has been stopped for a month, it's expected to start again in August.

Still going on until a week ago.

Stopped 2 days ago.

I'm sure they will recruit Russians from Europe too.

So it doesn't look like anything's changed. Wagner seems to have moved its headquarters under Lukashenko, ie, indirectly under Putin, rather than the Russian MoD and Shoigu.

LOL yes they are. Bakhmut is the single victory Russia has to crow about for the last year. Losing it would be a tremendous blow to Russian morale both on the frontline and in the country. It's Russia's Stalingrad.

The Russians won't lose Bakhmut, the UAF doesn't have the ability to take it back. Anyway you misunderstood.

The UAF fought for Bakhmut and Soledar,
Implies the UAF actively defended the "town" of Bakhmut. Their main goal was to weather all attacks and still keep flying their flag in Bakhmut.

but the Russians are not trying to hold these villages.
Implies the Russians are not actively defending the villages the UAF has taken in the counteroffensive in Zapo. The Russians are using these villages as localised killing fields. So they don't care who controls the villages as long as the UAF is getting killed there. The Russians intend to hold the line elsewhere, like Polohy and Tokmak.
 
Russia apparently hasn't allowed the IAEA access to reactor buildings 3&4 yet.
 
Sure, sure, the Russians are playing unfairly. Oh, no.

That's why all our tanks are getting it. And it's British.
T90-TWMP-e1617093775211.jpg


Bahrain-has-expressed-interest-in-buying-the-Arjun-Mk-II-MBT.jpg


And it's peanuts.
1,512 Mine Plough (MP) for Tank T-90 S/SK at an approximate cost of Rs 557 crore

That's $67M in all. Something the UK can easily fund for every single UAF tank.



You mean 8 villages, which the Russians themselves abandoned, and will be abandoning more pretty soon?
This stuff is effective against Cold War mines, but it has no noticeable effect on some mines that work with vibration sensors
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