United State's NGAD & F/A-XX Fighter Programs : Updates and Discussions

6gen is expected to enter service in 2030s.
As per natural evolution, one day all 4gen F-15, 16, 18 will be retired from USAF & USN. That could be 2050s/60s.
But then what will replace them & in how many numbers?

Looking at Wiki data for a generic reference (may not be accurate), not incl. trainers :
(List of active United States Air Force aircraft - Wikipedia)
(List of active United States naval aircraft - Wikipedia)
4gen:
F-15 A/C = 168
F-15 Str.E = 219
F-15 EX = 8 (104 planned)
F-16C = 738
F18 E/F = 421 (+76 ordered)
EA-18 = 153

5gen:
F-22 = 187
F-35 A = 419 (1,372 planned)
F-35 C = 30 (+204 ordered)

Total 4gen in 2040s/50s = 168 + 219 + 112 + 738 + 497 + 153 = 1,887
Total 5gen in 2040s/50s = 187 + 419 + 234 = 840+

So the question is how many 6gen F/A-XX & NGAD, manned + UCAV? :rolleyes::unsure:

A better question is what type of 6gen - heavy class F/A-XX + heavy class NGAD + medium class NGAD?
Is it going to be something like:
F-15 heavy class (168+219+112) > F-22 heavy class (187) + NGAD heavy class (??)
F-16 medium class (738) > F-35 A medium class (1,372) + NGAD medium class (??)
F-18 medium class (421+76+153) > F-35 C medium class (234+) + F/A-XX heavy class (??)

And even better question - will they have export versions?🤑

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Boeing Wins U.S. Air Force's NGAD F-47 Fighter Contract

Boeing won a contract March 21 to develop a next-generation combat aircraft for the U.S. Air Force that will spearhead future air wars and throw a lifeline to the company’s struggling military aviation business.

The White House announcement came after a tumultuous competition between Boeing and Lockheed Martin for the prized rights to build the aircraft that is meant to anchor the Air Force’s Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) family of systems.

“It will be known as the F-47, the generals picked a title,” President Donald Trump said. “It’s something the likes that no one has seen before.”

During the Oval Office announcement ceremony, Trump displayed a poster showing the first glimpse of the F-47 design, revealing a forward fuselage and sharply swept back wings but no further design features.

The Air Force wants a new aircraft with the range, speed and stealth to operate effectively over the vast Indo-Pacific region and against some of China’s most advanced weapons systems, including current and future stealth fighters and surface-to-air missile systems. The requirements dictate an aircraft with performance that defies familiar categories for combat aircraft, such as a fighter or bomber. But Boeing’s future aircraft is expected to feature supersonic speed and perhaps a lack of vertical control surfaces, along with a large structure to carry all fuel, sensors and weapons internally.

The cost-plus contract award for NGAD also offers a reprieve for a defense and space business within Boeing that has reported over $18 billion in reach-forward losses on fixed-price military and NASA programs since 2014, including $5 billion in new charges from 2024 alone. Despite the losses, Boeing invested heavily to win the NGAD contract, including starting construction nearly two years ago on a new factory in St. Louis to produce the aircraft.

The development deal could sustain for several more decades Boeing’s historic combat aircraft production line in St. Louis, which dates back to the first flight of the FH-1 Phantom in 1945, reached peak output with the F-4 Phantom II and continues today with the F-15EX Eagle II. If the NGAD contract can stay on track, Boeing gains the opportunity to revitalize its defense engineering and operations, advancing on the digital engineering and manufacturing practices pioneered by the T-7A Red Hawk trainer and MQ-25 Stingray, an uncrewed, carrier-based aerial refueling aircraft.

Boeing’s victory also prevents a Lockheed monopoly on Air Force fighter production after the end of the decade, with future U.S. orders for the F-35A still uncertain under the new Trump administration.

The NGAD award will reverberate in the defense industry beyond the crewed aircraft market. The aircraft is expected to feature the winner of the Next Generation Adaptive Propulsion program—either GE Aerospace’s XA102 or Pratt & Whitney’s XA103. Both feature a new, three-stream architecture that increases bypass flow in cruise mode to reduce fuel consumption by more than 20%. The capabilities of the NGAD also will influence requirements for the Air Force’s proposed family of Collaborative Combat Aircraft, which are expected to operate alongside NGAD aircraft on some missions, expanding options for sensors and weapons.

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The award also provides clarity after months of uncertainty for the NGAD program. The Air Force’s former leadership under the Biden administration came within days of awarding the NGAD development contract last June but decided instead to reanalyze the requirements and proposed costs of the new aircraft. By the end of December, the Air Force’s military leadership had concluded that having the NGAD aircraft would make winning future air campaigns significantly easier.
 

Boeing Wins U.S. Air Force's NGAD F-47 Fighter Contract

Boeing won a contract March 21 to develop a next-generation combat aircraft for the U.S. Air Force that will spearhead future air wars and throw a lifeline to the company’s struggling military aviation business.

The White House announcement came after a tumultuous competition between Boeing and Lockheed Martin for the prized rights to build the aircraft that is meant to anchor the Air Force’s Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) family of systems.

“It will be known as the F-47, the generals picked a title,” President Donald Trump said. “It’s something the likes that no one has seen before.”

During the Oval Office announcement ceremony, Trump displayed a poster showing the first glimpse of the F-47 design, revealing a forward fuselage and sharply swept back wings but no further design features.

The Air Force wants a new aircraft with the range, speed and stealth to operate effectively over the vast Indo-Pacific region and against some of China’s most advanced weapons systems, including current and future stealth fighters and surface-to-air missile systems. The requirements dictate an aircraft with performance that defies familiar categories for combat aircraft, such as a fighter or bomber. But Boeing’s future aircraft is expected to feature supersonic speed and perhaps a lack of vertical control surfaces, along with a large structure to carry all fuel, sensors and weapons internally.

The cost-plus contract award for NGAD also offers a reprieve for a defense and space business within Boeing that has reported over $18 billion in reach-forward losses on fixed-price military and NASA programs since 2014, including $5 billion in new charges from 2024 alone. Despite the losses, Boeing invested heavily to win the NGAD contract, including starting construction nearly two years ago on a new factory in St. Louis to produce the aircraft.

The development deal could sustain for several more decades Boeing’s historic combat aircraft production line in St. Louis, which dates back to the first flight of the FH-1 Phantom in 1945, reached peak output with the F-4 Phantom II and continues today with the F-15EX Eagle II. If the NGAD contract can stay on track, Boeing gains the opportunity to revitalize its defense engineering and operations, advancing on the digital engineering and manufacturing practices pioneered by the T-7A Red Hawk trainer and MQ-25 Stingray, an uncrewed, carrier-based aerial refueling aircraft.

Boeing’s victory also prevents a Lockheed monopoly on Air Force fighter production after the end of the decade, with future U.S. orders for the F-35A still uncertain under the new Trump administration.

The NGAD award will reverberate in the defense industry beyond the crewed aircraft market. The aircraft is expected to feature the winner of the Next Generation Adaptive Propulsion program—either GE Aerospace’s XA102 or Pratt & Whitney’s XA103. Both feature a new, three-stream architecture that increases bypass flow in cruise mode to reduce fuel consumption by more than 20%. The capabilities of the NGAD also will influence requirements for the Air Force’s proposed family of Collaborative Combat Aircraft, which are expected to operate alongside NGAD aircraft on some missions, expanding options for sensors and weapons.

USAF-NGAD.jpg

The award also provides clarity after months of uncertainty for the NGAD program. The Air Force’s former leadership under the Biden administration came within days of awarding the NGAD development contract last June but decided instead to reanalyze the requirements and proposed costs of the new aircraft. By the end of December, the Air Force’s military leadership had concluded that having the NGAD aircraft would make winning future air campaigns significantly easier.
So the advancements in this new aircraft will be the engine, avionics and data fusion right? I don't think anything else will be new from the F 35s here.
 
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BREAKING NEWS: POTUS Donald Trump announced 6gen NGAD designated as F-47 to be built by Boeing.
He stated that -
- It will be most advanced, capable, lethal jet.
- Its prototype has been flying secretly since 5 YEARS.
- It will be superior in stealth, speed (Mach 2+, may be supercruise), payload than all current figters, nothing comes even close.
- USA's enemies will never see it coming.
- It can fly with as many drones as desired.
- The price is not revealed intentionally yet which might indicate some technologies.
His associate standing beside him added that they will have generations of air dominance for their grand kids bcoz of the technologies in it.
2 USAF generals including chief were also standing beside.
There are 2 blurred posters showcased on both his sides, by which it looks like "Bird of Prey" concept.

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IDK how this jet can supercede all current jets in speed, agility, payload.
But time will tell soon now. Lots of media & documentaries will be coming.
 
Perhaps a laser weapon? Because there should be more electrical generation and more cooling capacity than on the F-35. :p

Which version are you betting on? Single engine or twin?

If we go by Trump's words:
“In terms of all of the attributes of a fighter jet, there’s never been anything even close to it, from speed to maneuverability, to what it can have to payload

“the most power of any jet of its kind ever made,”


It smells like TE.

The USAF Chief says it will be cheaper than the F-22 though.
 
By TMZ:
Another image we now have of the F-47 concept shows a very interesting and downright puzzling angle. We see that indeed this aircraft has a very broad shovel-like nose and its Bird of Prey-like wing dihedral is also apparent. The canopy looks quite wide as well and a better look at the fuselage is also seen here.

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Seems the F-47 will look more exotic than LM version.
 
So it's got canards.

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Also, it seems the F-47 will be exportable (unlike F-22).

Yes, although the posters are heavily edited, hiding entire rear half of airframe hiding wings, exhaust, intakes, etc.
The canards might enable Naval version, so a common fuselage design saving money & time.
The wings could be diamond, delta, lambda, etc, optimised for speed or lift/payload.
At this time, let's assume that Bird-of-Prey + Boeing F/A-XX concept = NGAD. :LOL:

But i doubt if it'll be exportable bcoz they said it'll secure their generations to come. And EU already going for FCAS & GCAP.
As part of high-low mix, there could be another exportable jet which could be surprise revealed. The entire USAF won't depend only on 1 jet for next 4-6 decades.
 
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Yes, although the posters are heavily edited, hiding entire rear half of airframe hiding wings, exhaust, intakes, etc.
The wings could be diamond, delta, lambda, etc, optimised for speed or lift/payload.
At this time, let's assume that Bird-of-Prey + Boeing F/A-XX concept = NGAD. :LOL:

Boeing Phantom Works released a video last year that had a full model. Don't know how much the design may have changed since then, but it seems fairly similar to what we're seeing now:


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Assuming this is the final model, the main wing seems to be a cross between a diamond & a delta. In the end, not that different to the trapezoidal ones on F-22 in terms of shape.

The canards might enable Naval version, so a common fuselage design saving money & time.

Maybe, but I'm not so sure about that. The NGAD has to be a very long-ranged aircraft which means it has to be pretty big (possibly bigger than J-20).

The F/A-XX on the other hand is constrained by the size of the elevators & hangars on the carriers (which are designed to accommodate F-35/Super Hornet-sized aircraft). Not to mention, it seems they're not interested in a penetration role for the F/A-XX, which means its range requirement would also be reduced. So the F/A-XX might well turn out to be considerably smaller than NGAD.

But i doubt if it'll be exportable bcoz they said it'll secure their generations to come. And EU already going for FCAS & GCAP.
As part of high-low mix, there could be another exportable jet which could be surprise revealed. The entire USAF won't depend only on 1 jet for next 4-6 decades.

Trump says they'll be exported:

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One of the reasons Boeing was likely selected was they had invested $billions in manufacturing plant. They are ready to go.

“In preparation for this..we made the most significant investment in the history of our defense business & we are ready to provide the most advanced & innovative NGAD aircraft needed to support the mission” Steve Parker, interim president and CEO for Boeing Defense

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Yes, although the posters are heavily edited, hiding entire rear half of airframe hiding wings, exhaust, intakes, etc.
The canards might enable Naval version, so a common fuselage design saving money & time.
The wings could be diamond, delta, lambda, etc, optimised for speed or lift/payload.
At this time, let's assume that Bird-of-Prey + Boeing F/A-XX concept = NGAD. :LOL:

But i doubt if it'll be exportable bcoz they said it'll secure their generations to come. And EU already going for FCAS & GCAP.
As part of high-low mix, there could be another exportable jet which could be surprise revealed. The entire USAF won't depend only on 1 jet for next 4-6 decades.
F47 will be an air superiority heavy fighter, those who have the requirements for such aircraft will go for F47.
 
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