United State's NGAD & F/A-XX Fighter Programs : Updates and Discussions

What F-35 fiasco? The fiasco where nations select the F-35 over Rafail? The fiasco where first world nations prefer the F-35 over Rafale? Stop being such an troll you're no Anonymous and you will never be like her. At least she was funny you just come across as a troll or a very dumb person that doesn't know what he's talking about.

NG is going to concentrate on the Navy's NGAD.
Greece and UAE are not thinking this way.
Wake me up when F35 will be reliable and fully on spec.
Japan will never accept. It's not without some (good) reasons they refused to give visa to muslim people....
 
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What F-35 fiasco? The fiasco where nations select the F-35 over Rafail? The fiasco where first world nations prefer the F-35 over Rafale? Stop being such an troll you're no Anonymous and you will never be like her. At least she was funny you just come across as a troll or a very dumb person that doesn't know what he's talking about.

NG is going to concentrate on the Navy's NGAD.
The aim of a military aircraft is not to make money, but to be capable of countering enemy threats. To achieve this, it must comply with its specifications, be produced within the deadlines agreed at the start of the programme and cost less than the planned maximum, which generally corresponds to the budget of the air force that is going to operate it. The F-35 does not meet any of these three criteria and is therefore a fiasco.
 
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In March, the U.S. Navy decided to significantly cut its budget for its next-generation fighter program to focus on urgent priorities amid potential conflict with China.

The U.S. Navy’s drastic cut to its next-generation fighter was a conscious decision to deal with congressionally imposed budget cuts and prioritizes near-term modernization over long-term plans. The service’s comptroller says, however, that the limited funding in current budget plans will be enough...
F-35 is finnaly the best french friend. In less than 20 year it has became a solution to all the fighter industry in the US : no more development.
FARA has been terminated
ERCA has been terminated
F/A-XX is on the way to be terminated
NGAD is on the way to be terminated
 
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In March, the U.S. Navy decided to significantly cut its budget for its next-generation fighter program to focus on urgent priorities amid potential conflict with China.

The U.S. Navy’s drastic cut to its next-generation fighter was a conscious decision to deal with congressionally imposed budget cuts and prioritizes near-term modernization over long-term plans. The service’s comptroller says, however, that the limited funding in current budget plans will be enough...
F-35 is finnaly the best french friend. In less than 20 year it has became a solution to all the fighter industry in the US : no more development.
FARA has been terminated
ERCA has been terminated
F/A-XX is on the way to be terminated
NGAD is on the way to be terminated
The F-35 programme was designed to destroy the European fighter industry, and it has destroyed the American fighter industry.
 
Keep dreaming guys.
You have seen them ask congress for money, this way before. It is nothing new.

I went to see an American psychologist and told him that the situation with the F-35 and NGAD programmes was depressing me a bit, and here's what he replied:

Recent comments by US Air Force (USAF) officials and difficulties with Lockheed Martin's F-35 programme and other defence projects, such as Boeing's, have indeed raised questions about the future of next-generation fighter aircraft programmes. Let's analyse the factors behind these comments and explore the potential impact on the development of next-generation fighter aircraft, in particular the Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD).

Context and current status of programmes

1. F-35 programme delays and performance

a. Technical problems and delays

  • TR3 and Block 4: The F-35 is experiencing delays in the integration of TR3 (Technology Refresh 3) technology and the development of Block 4, which are essential for its future capabilities.
  • TR2 Phase-Out: The recent crash of a TR2-equipped F-35 has highlighted the problems associated with older versions of the technology.
b. Costs and Programme Management
  • Cost overruns: Despite announcements to reduce unit costs, overall acquisition and operating costs continue to rise.
  • Inventory management: Managing the inventory of undelivered aircraft due to technical problems is adding to the complexity of the programme.
2. Performance and management problems at Boeing
a. Programmes in difficulty

  • KC-46 Pegasus: in-flight refuelling problems and delivery delays .
  • F-15EX and T-7 Red Hawk: Production and systems integration challenges .
b. Customer confidence
  • Loss of Confidence: Repeated problems have affected government customers' perception of delivery and performance reliability .
Air Force comments on NGAD

a. Context of Comments

  • Strategic Reflection: Recent comments may reflect a strategic reflection on the feasibility and risks associated with the development of new generations of fighter aircraft, in the context of current difficulties .
  • Impact of Current Challenges : Problems with the F-35 and other programmes are influencing confidence and planning for future projects, such as the NGAD.
b. Implications for the NGAD
  • Adaptability: F-35 delays and Boeing performance underline the need for flexibility in future procurement.
  • Technological investment: Confidence in R&D investment is crucial, and current delays could lead to a more cautious assessment of new technologies.
Potential Impacts and Future Strategies

1. Delays and Costs Affecting NGAD Planning
a. Lessons Learned

  • Process Optimisation: Use lessons learned from the F-35 programme to improve technology development and integration processes.
  • Revision of Budgets: Re-evaluation of budgets to include margins for technological contingencies.
b. New Approaches
  • Modularity and Flexibility: Adoption of modular design concepts to facilitate upgrades and cost reductions.
  • Strategic Partnerships: Strengthening partnerships with industry to ensure close alignment with armed forces requirements.
2. Competing concepts to NGAD

a. Manned Combat Aircraft

  • Future Air Dominance (FAD): Alternative programmes focusing on improvements to existing aircraft such as the F-22 modernisation option or new derivative concepts.
  • European Fighter Programs: European initiatives such as the FCAS (Future Combat Air System) and the Tempest.

b. Unmanned Combat Aircraft (UCAVs)
  • Loyal Wingman: collaborative combat UAVs capable of operating alongside manned aircraft .
  • Autonomous Systems: Autonomous and semi-autonomous combat aircraft for a variety of missions, reducing dependence on pilots.
  • Summary
  • Problem Context: Challenges encountered with the F-35 and other programmes influence confidence in future projects such as the NGAD.
  • Strategic Reflection: The Air Force could reconsider its priorities in terms of new developments, focusing on more modular and flexible concepts.
  • Future of Combat Aircraft: The growing importance of unmanned systems and integrated approaches points to a possible strategic reorientation.
References and Sources
  • Government Accountability Office (GAO). "F-35 Joint Strike Fighter: Cost and Affordability." GAO Report.
  • Defense News. "US Air Force May Rethink NGAD Program." Defense News.
  • Congressional Research Service. "F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) Program." CRS Report.
  • Air Force Magazine. "The Future of Air Dominance. Air Force Magazine.
  • Defense Industry Daily. "Boeing's Defense Programs and Challenges. DID.
This document can help you understand the various aspects involved and give you a broader perspective on the future direction of fighter aircraft programmes.
 
I think you need a new AI bot. :ROFLMAO: It doesn't understand how US procurement works

as to the F-35, Australia said about the 72 and opening it up to a SHornet replacement in the future.
“We’ve decided to keep the Super Hornets in service for two reasons: one, they’re doing great work, and secondly, the Joint Strike Fighter is even more capable than we initially thought,” Defence Industry Minister Pat Conroy said on Wednesday.
“We can delay the replacement of the Super Hornet, which frees up funding to invest in more long-range missiles, for example.”
 
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Why the U.S. Needs To Upgrade Its Fighter Jets Now

With China on its tail, the American military should not fall victim to the sunk-cost fallacy.

As the war in Ukraine trudges on, the Pentagon no longer has to worry too much about Russia’s ability to compete militarily with the United States. Moscow’s new pact with North Korea, a reliance on Iranian drones, its inability to establish air superiority over Ukraine well after two years into the war, and the lack of vital components such as computer chips all signal Russian weakness. Russia claiming to be at the forefront of aircraft technology with the MiG-41, capable of firing “laser weaponry,” comes off more as an unhinged fantasy than a credible threat. Despite its boasts, and because its war in Ukraine has taken a toll on its aircraft industry, Moscow will be struggling to keep up with Washington in developing a sixth generation fighter jet. (The “generation” of a fighter aircraft refers to its technological capabilities. The fifth generation currently in operation emerged in the 2000s.)

On the other hand, China—which for decades copied the Russian aircraft industry—cannot be dismissed as easily. In fact, given its financial resources, its status as the world’s biggest manufacturer, and the technological advances it is making, China has the capacity to pose a serious challenge to America’s dominance in the military aerospace sector. Just last month, China demonstrated a feat of engineering by making a second second unmanned landing on the far side of the Moon—which no other country has been able to accomplish—for the second time in five years.

Now, a sixth generation fighter is currently in various stages of development in several countries and the U.S. and China are the principal competitors in this race. Fighter jets continue to play a major role in defense strategies. Long range force projection against enemy targets would not be possible without warplanes, and in more proximate battlespaces they allow for close air support to ground troops and interdiction of enemy forces. Washington cannot allow Beijing to gain an advantage in this competition. In order to maintain its edge when it comes to military aviation technology, especially in the age of artificial intelligence, it is imperative that the United States go full throttle in producing its sixth generation system, so as to maintain its air superiority.


THE CHENGDU J-20 “Mighty Dragon” is Beijing’s already-developed fifth-generation warplane. With advanced avionics and data-processing capabilities, and as China’s first stealth aircraft, it rivals both the American F-22 Raptor, jointly produced by Boeing and Lockheed Martin in 2005, and Lockheed Martin’s F-35 Lightning II rolled out in 2015. It has limitations in terms of the munitions it carries, but in a first for China, it can serve as a long-range supersonic strike plane or an interceptor.

In 2017, six years after its maiden flight, the People’s Liberation Army Air Force inducted the J-20 into service. As many as 150 J-20s could already be in service, and the PLAAF reportedly could be getting one of these jets every month. The seven years since the J-20 entered into service is ample time for the Chinese to upgrade the warplane. More importantly, producing it at scale means that they can make up for any qualitative deficiencies with quantity. By deploying enough of them, Chinese warplanes could overwhelm U.S. forces in East Asia. In addition to benefiting from stolen F-35 plans, China has enjoyed a longtime collaboration with Pakistan, with which it developed the 4th generation multirole combat JF-17 Thunder. This joint project helped the Chinese to indirectly gain from the expertise of their Pakistani partners, who have decades of experience with American platforms.

Experts believe that while the J-20 is no match for the F-22, it could be a serious competitor to the F-35. The Chinese have been doing upgrades to the J-20 at a time when the United States has been struggling with the F-35, which helps bridge the capability gaps between the two competing fighters. The F-35 has been widely criticized as a boondoggle because of delays and cost overruns. Priced around $100 million per frame, the F-35 program is expected to cost taxpayers $1.3 trillion over the platform’s lifetime. However, the real issue is that the ongoing problems with the F-35 could get in the way of the U.S. developing its successor sixth generation aircraft.

The sixth generation is a huge leap forward because it integrates manned and unmanned aircraft technologies. Unlike the previous five generations of aircraft, it will not simply constitute a singular state-of-the-art manned fighter. The Next Generation Air Dominance program, conceived of by DARPA in 2014 to develop the sixth generation fighter, envisions the pairing up of pilots with drone systems. This would include advanced manned fighters as well as a fleet of around 1,000 autonomous “loyal wingman”drones which would autonomously assist a pilot in combat. In this way, it will not be anything like a traditional fighter jet. Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall has described the NGAD fighter as a “vital element” of the “family of systems.”

But it appears budgetary constraints are a driving factor in whether the United States can develop a robust sixth generation fighter aircraft capability. The disproportionately high cost of maintaining the F-35 is getting in the way of investing in the NGAD. Last month in response to a question about plans for NGAD, Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. David Allvin was evasive, noting that “we’re looking at many very difficult options that we must consider.”

NGAD is likely to be several times the cost of an F-35, and the Air Force Chief of Staff said it was one of several “choices” the service had to consider for its mandatory fiscal 2026 budget cuts. Gen. Allvin added that another factor informing the potential rethink of NGAD is the growing role of unmanned systems in future air operations—meaning that there is potentially no need for a manned sixth generation fighter. Unmanned aerial vehicles, even those driven by AI, can complement piloted fighter aircraft but they cannot be a substitute for them. The processing of data and the derivative analysis and moves that a human pilot is inimitable. With the USAF leadership apparently leaning towards not building a manned sixth generation fighter, the expectation is that the focus will be on improving the F-35, which remains the most advanced fighter. But it makes no sense to downgrade efforts to develop NGAD as the cutting-edge air dominance system while expending resources to continue to upgrade its predecessor system. Not when China is on the tail.

It was in 2019 that Wang Haifeng, chief designer for the Chengdu Aerospace Corporation, divulged that China had embarked upon developing its own version of NGAD. Three years later, in 2022, Gen. Mark D. Kelly, the Commander of Air Combat Command, warned that the Chinese were well on their way to developing sixth-generation fighter capability. Beijing expects to bring it online by 2035, but the American NGAD “family of systems” can be ready by 2030, if the Pentagon and Congress continue to allocate the necessary funding. The issue of cost is not impossible. Given the will from within the Pentagon, it can be brought down through innovations in design and streamlining of acquisition strategies.

The United States military should not be a victim of the sunk cost fallacy when it comes to the F-35. The nation’s decades-long technological superiority in state-of-the-art fighter aircraft is at risk.
 
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