US - Iran Flare Up

The REPUBLICAN party will guide Trump when to attack Iran

This Sulemani thing took away all focus from Impeachment , now next action will
Happen before November election
Sit down Trump Modi, join Manmohan Singh classes of impotency, so that people don't get hopeful.

After Sep 2016 , Pakistan has lost nearly 1000 men in LOC battles

MMS had tied up the hands of the Indian Army
 
One is Iran who is giving answers to 10 times stronger power now matter what, they did fire weapons to give message.
One is India even scared of Sri Lanka and does not know what to do with Pakistan.
My God, we Indians :cautious:
you want to wrestle with a pig ? ........ and what will be the end result other than getting dirty.
 
Except giving Iran justification to exit the deal and go full throttle for Bomb what did this whole drama achieve? 52 sites on target and what not.

Feels like Balakot strikes again, you hit a weaker nation in very limited capacity after getting multiple attacks on you as it's impossible to let this go and then being so scared you collaborate and fix a non response with the same enemy. Let them strike you, giving way all the time lying to your own public and facilitating the enemy.

Then more pomp and show, 52 sites in target, katl ki raat and what not and right when it matters you chicken out, effectively finishing off your deterrence for long.


Never make a threat you can't carry out, it reduces you to a joke, all your might, power gets humiliated. If only world has leaders than reality show stars losers who are more interested in prescription management than curing the growing tumour.

Sit down Trump Modi, join Manmohan Singh classes of impotency, so that people don't get hopeful.
You are a little off the mark here..
First for the first time, US made it plain to Iran,that a proxy attack killing a US soldier/ contractor will lead to a hit on an Iranian target, as US will attribute it directly to Iran.
Second, after all the song and dance of the Soleimani funeral, the red flag in Qom, and sh*t, Iran's formal revenge for killing their top general, involved a fixed WWE match where it asked the US forces to move out, before carrying out the strike..
 
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I don't know. I heard shooting a pig from far produces some very interesting results.
of course thats the idea, dont get your hands dirty shoot it from far .......... from some body's shoulder or hip. Not only its effective but also a bitter pill to swallow.
 
Sit down Trump Modi, join Manmohan Singh classes of impotency, so that people don't get hopeful.
Manmohan never hit across LOC or international border - atleast not overtly.
it does not matter if USA (or India) retaliate. the precedence set now is:
USA (and India) can and will hit you and you wont even know when. bottle up all issues and hit at a high value target. and Iran (for USA) or Pakista (in India's case) have to scramble a response which they may or may not have planned for.

from being reactive, USA (and India) are "proactive" - which changes the calculus for the opposing side. they now have to spend on their defensive capabilities as well as.
 
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Isn't the current situation a precarious one for India to navigate?
1) Tightening sanctions on Iran leaving pretty much no elbow room for India
2) Iranian sprint for the N bomb will make our co op with Iran less likely.
In such a scenario chabahar and Afghanistan investment can be safely written off now. ??
 
Who'd want that guy's job now?
Why don't you apply? It will help you and your country's economy after brexit.....😁😁😂😂

Also you can be helpful in understanding Iran point of view and then tell Trump and NATO co. And vice versa convey their point of view to Iranians... ☺☺
 
Bhai hard power dikhane ke liye jeb me paisa or indigenous weaponry bhi honi chahiye.

Once we Indians were soney ki chidiya right? We had knowledge and as well as 25% of world's Economy. But could we protect ourselves? NO
The more rich you become the more vulnerable you get, and if you have no will to use hardpower then no one will protect. India even if has hardpower, it will not have will to use it.

Even our shastra are telling us all the time that There are asurs and brahmins, asurs disturb brahmin and brahmin pray to God then God comes and protects the Brahmin.
you want to wrestle with a pig ? ........ and what will be the end result other than getting dirty.

No My point is territory expansion to accomodate 1.35 billion which will in 3 decades cross 1.5 billion. I am speaking about a policy which will secure India's economic goals 3 decades after. And for that India needs to act quick.


If Today India had access to Afghanistan Via POK, the Iran US situation would have been different with respect to India. And That's all I am saying, which most of the people fail to comprehend.
 
Irak: Forsvaret følger situasjonen i tett
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Ingen norske soldater ble skadet i rakettangrepet i Irak. Forsvaret vurderer trusselbildet kontinuerlig.

Rett før midnatt norsk tid i går ble den amerikanske militærbasen ved Al Asad i Irak utsatt for flere rakettanslag. Ingen av de rundt 70 norske soldatene som befinner seg i basen seg ble skadet i angrepet. Heller ikke norsk materiell eller infrastruktur har blitt skadet i angrepet.
– Måten soldatene har håndtert nattens hendelse på viser at de er godt trent, godt utstyrt og godt forberedt på å håndtere ulike scenarier som for eksempel nattens hendelse, sier major Elisabeth Eikeland ved Forsvarets operative hovedkvarter.
ARKIVFOTO: Soldater fra NORTU 5 (Norwegian Task Unit) står samlet, i etterkant av et rakettangrep mot leiren i Al-Assad, Irak i 2019. Foto: Ole-Sverre Haugli

HØY TRUSSELSITUASJON
Den norske styrken er en del av den internasjonal koalisjonen Operation Inherent Resolve. Målet med koalisjonen er å støtte irakiske myndigheter i kampen mot ISIL. På grunn av sikkerhetssituasjonen i Irak er dette oppdraget satt på vent.
Forsvaret vurderer kontinuerlig trusselbildet i nært samarbeid med koalisjonen.
Trusselvurderingen har vært høy i Irak de siste månedene. De norske soldatene er derfor vant til å forholde seg til en høy trusselsituasjon, og har gjort de tiltakene som har vært nødvendige for å ivareta sikkerheten til personellet.

FAKTA OM OPPDRAGET I IRAK
Oppdraget til de norske styrkene i Irak er å bistå den irakiske regjeringen med å bekjempe ISIL militært, stanse rekrutteringen av fremmedkrigere, imøtegå ISILs ideologi, stanse ISILs finansiering og stabilisere områder som frigjøres fra ISILs kontroll.
Norge bidrar med kapasitetsbygging av irakiske sikkerhetsstyrker i Anbar provins
Norge deltar ikke med selvstendige stridende enheter, men skal mentorere de irakiske enhetene slik at de kan bekjempe ISIL. De norske militære instruktørene i Anbar-provinsen skal utdanne og trene irakiske sikkerhetsstyrker i elementære soldatferdigheter, og bidra til økt kompetanse på brigade-og divisjonsnivå.

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In English - zero Norwegian casualties or material damage to the 70 soldiers at Al-Asad Air Base, their equipment and infrastructure. Norway provides training support for Iraqi troops and security forces in Anbar Iraq and when necessary provides support against ISIS, but only in conjunction with Iraqi troops.
 
yes but you were slaves to muslims and then britishers, if you want to fall this this standard let's debate history now. Then I will teach you what you are what you are not. With proper claims to bust your lies
Ok. Let's take you on your word.You say you're from Sikkim.Fair enough.Are you a lepcha, bhutia or a gurkha? What are you? Let's debate your history.
 
The difference is that the Turks enforced a religion and then changed to an opposed religion themselves.

What're you talking about man? Didn't I make it clear that Arabs invaded Iran & imposed their religion viz : Sunni Islam on Iran in the 7th - 8th century? Where are the Turks in it? Subsequently in the 16th & 17th century, the Azeri Turkic Safavid dynasty succeeded in converting a Sunni majority Iran into a Shia majority Iran. Both conversions took about 1-2 centuries. Probably more.
I don't recognise Islam an Abrahamic religion. Abraham plays no central or major role in Islam.
Your recognition or lack of it doesn't amount to diddly squat . Islam deeply acknowledges & recognizes & respects all the Jewish prophets from Adam downwards, especially Abraham until Mohammed.This includes Adam, Noah , Moses, David, Solomon, Jesus etc. They believe Jesus wasn't a product of Immaculate Conception, he wasn't the son of God or a God, he wasn't Resurrected. He was just a Prophet before Mohamed - the last Prophet.

Remember that, Paddy, you fool.
 
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Space.com with a good overview of open source intel and geospatial imagery provided by the American company Planet.

Satellite Spots Iran Missile Attack Aftermath from Space

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Precise strikes. Just unreliable rockets and missiles, what with 1/3rd of the launches prematurely detonating (4/15).

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Planet is the same group that first noticed and photographed a failed Iranian space launch in August, 2019.

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Very precise strikes
 
Very precise strikes
Yes.. very precise, deliberately avoiding housing and targeting hangers... and these are ballistic missiles with approximately 10 meter cep, and not cruise missiles which are more accurate. This would have come as a shock to US military planners...
I suspect that given how unprotected US barracks housing personnel are in the middle east... and given the tens of thousands of Iranian missiles, this would have played a major part in Trump backing off from hitting targets inside Iran. Although, US patriot systems have improved by a lot, their effectiveness against modern missile systems is debatable. During the first Gulf war, the kill ratio claims went from an initial claim of app. 100 percent, to almost 0, and a maximum of 1 hit, after a congressional enquiry. The only fact that saved US, was the app. 1000 metre cep of these crude scuds launched by Iran.
So,I take back what I said earlier that US might have got some guarantee about Iranian proxies restraining themselves, in exchange for US not attacking inside Iran. It's more likely that the accuracy of Iranian missiles forced Trump to stand down... although US media might spin it in other ways..
The Military Technological Revolution has come back to bite the US .. lol
 
Isn't the current situation a precarious one for India to navigate?
1) Tightening sanctions on Iran leaving pretty much no elbow room for India
2) Iranian sprint for the N bomb will make our co op with Iran less likely.
In such a scenario chabahar and Afghanistan investment can be safely written off now. ??
@Falcon I guess we probably may have to write that old article soon..
 
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es.. very precise, deliberately avoiding housing and targeting hangers... and these are ballistic missiles with approximately 10 meter cep, and not cruise missiles which are more accurate. This would have come as a shock to US military planners...

Indeed. They fired third/fourth gen. Fateh-110 SRBM. It's range is over 300km, it's kind of rocket artillery. With improved precision.

So,I take back what I said earlier that US might have got some guarantee about Iranian proxies restraining themselves, in exchange for US not attacking inside Iran. It's more likely that the accuracy of Iranian missiles forced Trump to stand down... although US media might spin it in other ways..
The Military Technological Revolution has come back to bite the US .. l

They probably need more BM defence for their naval fleet in Persian gulf. Otherwise their fleet is like a sitting duck in an open field for Iranian missiles.

But the fact is, now US knows all this.
 
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