US - Iran Flare Up

What Iran has done with the precision strike, is that it has only bought more time... US will now move around more of its troops to safer locations, and build more concrete bunkers for housing troops, and air assets, and Iran would be racing towards nuclear weapons during this time..
Also, please remember the significance of killing Soleimani and Muhandis at the same time... Iran's control of its Iraqi proxies has weakened just a little... Also, as per an article I had read, Trump has changed the strategy from Big Coin ( involving overthrowing the government and later nation building) to little coin ( overthrowing an unfriendly government and ensuring chaos, so that unfriendly regional powers dont hold sway over the country)
So, in the current fluid situation in Iraq, US, saudi, israel would try to sow some confusion between various factions constituting the PMU, and with some reemergence of Sunni ISIS, this could weaken Iran's sway..
Please read this article, about the impact of Al Muhandis death..

REVEALED: Iraqi armed factions not ready to strike US forces, commanders say

So, dont count out Trump yet... :)
 
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_Anonymous_ said:
What're you talking about man? Didn't I make it clear that Arabs invaded Iran & imposed their religion viz : Sunni Islam on Iran in the 7th - 8th century? Where are the Turks in it? Subsequently in the 16th & 17th century, the Azeri Turkic Safavid dynasty succeeded in converting a Sunni majority Iran into a Shia majority Iran. Both conversions took about 1-2 centuries. Probably more.

Your recognition or lack of it doesn't amount to diddly squat . Islam deeply acknowledges & recognizes & respects all the Jewish prophets from Adam downwards, especially Abraham until Mohammed.This includes Adam, Noah , Moses, David, Solomon, Jesus etc. They believe Jesus wasn't a product of Immaculate Conception, he wasn't the son of God or a God, he wasn't Resurrected. He was just a Prophet before Mohamed - the last Prophet.

Remember that, Paddy, you fool.
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You said Turkic people invaded in the 11th century and imposed Shia. Turkey is now Sunni though.

Except it doesn't really.
_Anonymous_ said:
Well one things for sure. The US is no Rottweiler. It's not a chump either. It's bite still packs quite a punch but the UK is essentially a harmless poodle.
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Who are you to distinguish poodles from Rottweilers? You can't even distinguish cows from humans.
 
BMD said:
You said Turkic people invaded in the 11th century and imposed Shia. Turkey is now Sunni though.

Except it doesn't really.
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Turkic people inhabit the vast expanse from Turkey in the West to Kyrgyzstan in the east & beyond those boundaries. I repeat, Arabs introduced Sunni Islam into Iran. Most Iranians were Sunni Muslims till the 16th century. The Azreri Turkic Safafids changed that. Is that so hard to comprehend, Paddy?
 
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Turkic people inhabit the vast expanse from Turkey in the West to Kyrgyzstan in the east & beyond those boundaries. I repeat, Arabs introduced Sunni Islam into Iran. Most Iranians were Sunni Muslims till the 16th century. The Azreri Turkic Safafids changed that. Is that so hard to comprehend, Paddy?
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This is like talking to a goldfish.
 
My bet: Given the stories that CIA director Gina Haspel told Trump that Iran would retaliate to Soleimani killing by launching missiles at US base, and that she favored Soleimani killing, I surmise that she would have told Trump that the Dickraa missiles would land far away from US soldiers barracks... But, now that she was caught panties' down, and US soldiers were sitting ducks, to Iranian precision strikes.. I guess Trump is gonna fire Gina Haspel soon...
 
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vsdoc said:
Iran already has a working nuke.

Join the dots. Then reread my earlier post ...

Cheers, Doc
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Doc, "Working nuke" is 10 tonne of equipment and is of no military value. Its deliverable nuke that counts. If you are going to go against US or any of its"partners", you need a nuke which weighs no more than a tonne, so you can deliver it. And given it is Iran, it will need a missile deliverable nuke. That is one more step. It won't work without miniaturization.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1215322987001307136
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Its Balakot all over again. I now have a suspicion that India mediated this theatrical strike on US bases. US knew in advance, Iran was able to go with major theatrics, red flag etc and US eased out with no damage done.
 
Sulla84 said:
My bet: Given the stories that CIA director Gina Haspel told Trump that Iran would retaliate to Soleimani killing by launching missiles at US base, and that she favored Soleimani killing, I surmise that she would have told Trump that the Dickraa missiles would land far away from US soldiers barracks... But, now that she was caught panties' down, and US soldiers were sitting ducks, to Iranian precision strikes.. I guess Trump is gonna fire Gina Haspel soon...
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The jury's out whether dickraa missiles are actually accurate or whether they made a virtue out of necessity.
 
_Anonymous_ said:
Vipin Narang (@NarangVipin) Tweeted:
Let no one say this crisis was costless. Escalation is never sterile, and the fog of war is always thick. This is so sad. ELINT News on Twitter (
https://twitter.com/x/status/1215307533423804416
)

Proof that dickraas are dickraas. RIP victims.
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Iran has agood AA defence , and they perhaps did that to give a message to EU and Canada that Iran can use it's strategic position to target their airliners, similar way during Crimea war.

but it's sad
 
screambowl said:
Iran has agood AA defence , and they perhaps did that to give a message to EU and Canada that Iran can use it's strategic position to target their airliners, similar way during Crimea war.

but it's sad
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That actually does not make any sense at all. If anything it will further antagonize these nations and not to mention it will make it very hard for them to have any consideration for Iran. All EU and NA nations are democracies. Killing common people never goes well with democracies and makes really hard for the leaders to justify their support. Not to mention, military action on Iran was not gathering much support from EU or Canada.
 
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Saaho said:
That actually does not make any sense at all. If anything it will further antagonize these nations and not to mention it will make it very hard for them to have any consideration for Iran. All EU and NA nations are democracies. Killing common people never goes well with democracies and makes really hard for the leaders to justify their support. Not to mention, military action on Iran was not gathering much support from EU or Canada.
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Only if they are able to prove. But it could be engine failure as well. Or when they launched the BM, it accidentally hit the aircraft. There is a video out, and that's horrific, the whole jetliner is falling like a ball of fire. It's horror. They say that the debri fall out radius is in 1-2 sq kms. this means very hard impact.
 
screambowl said:
Only if they are able to prove. But it could be engine failure as well. Or when they launched the BM, it accidentally hit the aircraft. There is a video out, and that's horrific, the whole jetliner is falling like a ball of fire. It's horror. They say that the debri fall out radius is in 1-2 sq kms. this means very hard impact.
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The US can detect missile fired via sats. I am pretty sure if that is the case, you will hear from the US.
 
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