ADA AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft

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Expression of Interest to build the body for Next generation technology demonstrator was put out by ADA in Feb month. So I am assuming that whoever is going to build, it will remain useless for next 4-5 years because we have decided that prototype should not be made before our assumed timeline.
 
NEXT-GEN SUCCESSOR TO LCA TEJAS ON THE WAY, TO BE BUILT AT COIMBATORE
SUNDAY, MAY 20, 2018 BY INDIANDEFENSE NEWS
LCA_Tejas_Fighter_4.jpg


In a significant shift from earlier norms, the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) is looking to build the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) at Sulur in Combatore instead of Bangalore, reports The Economic Times. It has already invited private players to provide a technological demonstration.

The proposal also marks the first time an indigenous military aircraft project will see private participation. Sulur in the outskirts of Coimbatore has an air force station that might soon be the permanent home to the Tejas squadron.

The AMCA, a fifth generation aircraft, may soon replace the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas that was also built by the ADA. The agency believes that involving private players would help the project with its timeline, and fit in line with Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s Make In India programme.

Sulur has been selected due to saturation at the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) Airport – the city’s former commercial airport – in Bangalore.

The private participants would have to manufacture, assemble and equip two aircraft. Setting a new precedent, the entire sector will be participating at various stages including the design, fabrication, and assembly of the craft.

Source:- Next-Gen Successor To LCA Tejas On The Way, To Be Built At Coimbatore | Indian Defence News

2019 around the corner & i had figured things may just hot up for everyone post elections, including rafale.. but this & now..
@vstol Jockey buddy thought of you when i read this article.. Any comments!! any good new
:cool:
 
NEXT-GEN SUCCESSOR TO LCA TEJAS ON THE WAY, TO BE BUILT AT COIMBATORE
SUNDAY, MAY 20, 2018 BY INDIANDEFENSE NEWS
LCA_Tejas_Fighter_4.jpg


In a significant shift from earlier norms, the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) is looking to build the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) at Sulur in Combatore instead of Bangalore, reports The Economic Times. It has already invited private players to provide a technological demonstration.

The proposal also marks the first time an indigenous military aircraft project will see private participation. Sulur in the outskirts of Coimbatore has an air force station that might soon be the permanent home to the Tejas squadron.

The AMCA, a fifth generation aircraft, may soon replace the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas that was also built by the ADA. The agency believes that involving private players would help the project with its timeline, and fit in line with Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s Make In India programme.

Sulur has been selected due to saturation at the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) Airport – the city’s former commercial airport – in Bangalore.

The private participants would have to manufacture, assemble and equip two aircraft. Setting a new precedent, the entire sector will be participating at various stages including the design, fabrication, and assembly of the craft.

Source:- Next-Gen Successor To LCA Tejas On The Way, To Be Built At Coimbatore | Indian Defence News

2019 around the corner & i had figured things may just hot up for everyone post elections, including rafale.. but this & now..
@vstol Jockey buddy thought of you when i read this article.. Any comments!! any good new
:cool:
No news as of now. I will let you know about any new developments.
 
India building new fighter jet
The Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA), India’s next indigenous fighter, is expected to make its first flight by 2032. Development work on the jet is under way.
“The AMCA will feature geometric stealth and will initially fly with two GE-414 engines. Once we develop our own engine, it can be replaced with that. We expect the first flight in 2032,” a defence source said.
“There are two major ways of making a military platform stealthier. One is geometric stealth and other is material stealth. In geometric stealth, the shape of the aircraft is designed at such angles so as to deflect away maximum radar waves thereby minimising its radar cross section. In material stealth, radar-absorbing materials are used in making the aircraft which will absorb the radio waves thus reducing the radar footprint. The AMCA will initially be based on geometric stealth, we can look at material stealth at a later stage,” the source said.
The Indian Air Force has given land to the Defence Research and Development Organisation to set up facilities for the project.
The plan is to build on the capabilities and expertise developed during the development of the light combat aircraft (LCA) and produce a medium fifth generation fighter aircraft.
“Apart from the technologies developed from the LCA project, the new fighter programme is important as technologies coming in through that will flow into the AMCA project,” another official source said.
The aircraft will be powered by the same GE-414 engine on the LCA Mk-2 variant which is in the design phase.
A GE-414 produces 98kN thrust compared to 84kN thrust of the GE-404 engine which is on the LCA Mk1.
At Aero India 2016, DRDO officials had stated that the basic design configuration has been frozen after wind tunnel testing and there are three critical technologies that need to be developed -- stealth, thrust vectoring and super cruise.
This is India’s only fifth generation aircraft programme following the decision not to go ahead with the fifth generation project with Russia.
India building new fighter jet

First flight from 2019 to now 2032.. AMCA or any other 5th gen fighters are not coming to india before 2050.
 
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India building new fighter jet
The Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA), India’s next indigenous fighter, is expected to make its first flight by 2032. Development work on the jet is under way.
“The AMCA will feature geometric stealth and will initially fly with two GE-414 engines. Once we develop our own engine, it can be replaced with that. We expect the first flight in 2032,” a defence source said.
“There are two major ways of making a military platform stealthier. One is geometric stealth and other is material stealth. In geometric stealth, the shape of the aircraft is designed at such angles so as to deflect away maximum radar waves thereby minimising its radar cross section. In material stealth, radar-absorbing materials are used in making the aircraft which will absorb the radio waves thus reducing the radar footprint. The AMCA will initially be based on geometric stealth, we can look at material stealth at a later stage,” the source said.
The Indian Air Force has given land to the Defence Research and Development Organisation to set up facilities for the project.
The plan is to build on the capabilities and expertise developed during the development of the light combat aircraft (LCA) and produce a medium fifth generation fighter aircraft.
“Apart from the technologies developed from the LCA project, the new fighter programme is important as technologies coming in through that will flow into the AMCA project,” another official source said.
The aircraft will be powered by the same GE-414 engine on the LCA Mk-2 variant which is in the design phase.
A GE-414 produces 98kN thrust compared to 84kN thrust of the GE-404 engine which is on the LCA Mk1.
At Aero India 2016, DRDO officials had stated that the basic design configuration has been frozen after wind tunnel testing and there are three critical technologies that need to be developed -- stealth, thrust vectoring and super cruise.
This is India’s only fifth generation aircraft programme following the decision not to go ahead with the fifth generation project with Russia.
India building new fighter jet

First flight from 2019 to now 2032.. AMCA or any other 5th gen fighters are not coming to india before 2050.

2032 sounds like an acheivable timeline. I will rather have HAL & ADA give us a timeline that they can actually keep rather than the timelines they can never keep. I would be much happy if the 1st flight was in 2028-29, with LCA mk2 FOC in or before 2025.
 
India building new fighter jet
The Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA), India’s next indigenous fighter, is expected to make its first flight by 2032. Development work on the jet is under way.
“The AMCA will feature geometric stealth and will initially fly with two GE-414 engines. Once we develop our own engine, it can be replaced with that. We expect the first flight in 2032,” a defence source said.
“There are two major ways of making a military platform stealthier. One is geometric stealth and other is material stealth. In geometric stealth, the shape of the aircraft is designed at such angles so as to deflect away maximum radar waves thereby minimising its radar cross section. In material stealth, radar-absorbing materials are used in making the aircraft which will absorb the radio waves thus reducing the radar footprint. The AMCA will initially be based on geometric stealth, we can look at material stealth at a later stage,” the source said.
The Indian Air Force has given land to the Defence Research and Development Organisation to set up facilities for the project.
The plan is to build on the capabilities and expertise developed during the development of the light combat aircraft (LCA) and produce a medium fifth generation fighter aircraft.
“Apart from the technologies developed from the LCA project, the new fighter programme is important as technologies coming in through that will flow into the AMCA project,” another official source said.
The aircraft will be powered by the same GE-414 engine on the LCA Mk-2 variant which is in the design phase.
A GE-414 produces 98kN thrust compared to 84kN thrust of the GE-404 engine which is on the LCA Mk1.
At Aero India 2016, DRDO officials had stated that the basic design configuration has been frozen after wind tunnel testing and there are three critical technologies that need to be developed -- stealth, thrust vectoring and super cruise.
This is India’s only fifth generation aircraft programme following the decision not to go ahead with the fifth generation project with Russia.
India building new fighter jet

First flight from 2019 to now 2032.. AMCA or any other 5th gen fighters are not coming to india before 2050.
These are all assumptions and predictions ,after 2019 election we will get more clarity from MOD.
 
India building new fighter jet
The Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA), India’s next indigenous fighter, is expected to make its first flight by 2032. Development work on the jet is under way.
“The AMCA will feature geometric stealth and will initially fly with two GE-414 engines. Once we develop our own engine, it can be replaced with that. We expect the first flight in 2032,” a defence source said.
“There are two major ways of making a military platform stealthier. One is geometric stealth and other is material stealth. In geometric stealth, the shape of the aircraft is designed at such angles so as to deflect away maximum radar waves thereby minimising its radar cross section. In material stealth, radar-absorbing materials are used in making the aircraft which will absorb the radio waves thus reducing the radar footprint. The AMCA will initially be based on geometric stealth, we can look at material stealth at a later stage,” the source said.
The Indian Air Force has given land to the Defence Research and Development Organisation to set up facilities for the project.
The plan is to build on the capabilities and expertise developed during the development of the light combat aircraft (LCA) and produce a medium fifth generation fighter aircraft.
“Apart from the technologies developed from the LCA project, the new fighter programme is important as technologies coming in through that will flow into the AMCA project,” another official source said.
The aircraft will be powered by the same GE-414 engine on the LCA Mk-2 variant which is in the design phase.
A GE-414 produces 98kN thrust compared to 84kN thrust of the GE-404 engine which is on the LCA Mk1.
At Aero India 2016, DRDO officials had stated that the basic design configuration has been frozen after wind tunnel testing and there are three critical technologies that need to be developed -- stealth, thrust vectoring and super cruise.
This is India’s only fifth generation aircraft programme following the decision not to go ahead with the fifth generation project with Russia.
India building new fighter jet

First flight from 2019 to now 2032.. AMCA or any other 5th gen fighters are not coming to india before 2050.

2032 sounds like an acheivable timeline. I will rather have HAL & ADA give us a timeline that they can actually keep rather than the timelines they can never keep. I would be much happy if the 1st flight was in 2028-29, with LCA mk2 FOC in or before 2025.

These are all assumptions and predictions ,after 2019 election we will get more clarity from MOD.

Project green light is expected in 2019. First flight of TD is expected in 2023, first prototype in 2025. Flight testing is expected to take 9 years until IOC, so that's 2032.

Add a few years delay there, so a more realistic date for IOC is 2035.
 
Project green light is expected in 2019. First flight of TD is expected in 2023, first prototype in 2025. Flight testing is expected to take 9 years until IOC, so that's 2032.

Add a few years delay there, so a more realistic date for IOC is 2035.
This guy didn’t give any new input “thrust vectoring” ...I don’t think it’s coming with AMCA we don’t have any technology demonstration...may be in Kaveri with Russian input but definitely not on GE414 .
 
This guy didn’t give any new input “thrust vectoring” ...I don’t think it’s coming with AMCA we don’t have any technology demonstration...may be in Kaveri with Russian input but definitely not on GE414 .

The F414 is only for the 2 TDs and 1 prototype. The following prototypes will have new Kaveri derivatives.
 
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Project green light is expected in 2019. First flight of TD is expected in 2023, first prototype in 2025. Flight testing is expected to take 9 years until IOC, so that's 2032.

Add a few years delay there, so a more realistic date for IOC is 2035.
The article says that first flight itself is 2032, not IOC or FOC. The article appears dubious and fraudulent
 
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Moscow and New Delhi are going ahead with discussions on the fifth generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) project despite media reports on India’s withdrawal, Yury Slyusar, the president of the Russian United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), said on Sunday.
“We have not closed the topic, we continue to discuss with India the joint development of the fifth generation [aircraft]. The topic is not closed. It was reported quite intensely that the Indians are exiting this project – they are not withdrawing from it, they just ask a really large number of questions, to which, in our opinion, we give exhaustive answers.
As before, we proceed from the premise that the amount of technology that we are ready to transmit to India, no other country is not ready to transfer,” Slyusar told the Rossyia 1 broadcaster.
In April, Director for International Cooperation at Russia’s Rostec Viktor Kladov told Sputnik that Moscow had not received any notification from India on New Delhi’s alleged withdrawal from FGFA, thus denying media reports about India’s intention to leave the project.
The project implies that India will not only acquire new generation fighter jets, but will also launch their licensed production, according to the executive. Slyusar expressed his hope that the sides would switch to the design stage soon.
Under the Russian-Indian FGFA project, both sides would invest $4 billion each at the developmental stage, while the total cost of constructing 127 fighter jets is estimated to amount to $25 billion. In the project, the Russian side is represented by the Sukhoi aircraft manufacturer and the Indian side by Hindustan Aeronautics. The initial FGFA agreement was signed in 2007, the final agreement, which will include the project’s financing conditions, is yet to be signed.

Russia, India Engaged in Talks on 5th Generation Fighter Jet – UAC – Indian Defence Research Wing

What about the announcements made by Doval then?

Also, first flight of AMCA by 2032 is repeat of another LCA drama.. by the time this 1 gets inducted, 6th gen would be flying and 7th gen would be on drawing board. IAF will again cry about the design being old...
 
Moscow and New Delhi are going ahead with discussions on the fifth generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) project despite media reports on India’s withdrawal, Yury Slyusar, the president of the Russian United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), said on Sunday.
“We have not closed the topic, we continue to discuss with India the joint development of the fifth generation [aircraft]. The topic is not closed. It was reported quite intensely that the Indians are exiting this project – they are not withdrawing from it, they just ask a really large number of questions, to which, in our opinion, we give exhaustive answers.
As before, we proceed from the premise that the amount of technology that we are ready to transmit to India, no other country is not ready to transfer,” Slyusar told the Rossyia 1 broadcaster.
In April, Director for International Cooperation at Russia’s Rostec Viktor Kladov told Sputnik that Moscow had not received any notification from India on New Delhi’s alleged withdrawal from FGFA, thus denying media reports about India’s intention to leave the project.
The project implies that India will not only acquire new generation fighter jets, but will also launch their licensed production, according to the executive. Slyusar expressed his hope that the sides would switch to the design stage soon.
Under the Russian-Indian FGFA project, both sides would invest $4 billion each at the developmental stage, while the total cost of constructing 127 fighter jets is estimated to amount to $25 billion. In the project, the Russian side is represented by the Sukhoi aircraft manufacturer and the Indian side by Hindustan Aeronautics. The initial FGFA agreement was signed in 2007, the final agreement, which will include the project’s financing conditions, is yet to be signed.

Russia, India Engaged in Talks on 5th Generation Fighter Jet – UAC – Indian Defence Research Wing

What about the announcements made by Doval then?

Also, first flight of AMCA by 2032 is repeat of another LCA drama.. by the time this 1 gets inducted, 6th gen would be flying and 7th gen would be on drawing board. IAF will again cry about the design being old...
Why act like some sensationalist? Don't you have basic common sense to differentiate between fake news and real one?
 
India building new fighter jet
The Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA), India’s next indigenous fighter, is expected to make its first flight by 2032. Development work on the jet is under way.
“The AMCA will feature geometric stealth and will initially fly with two GE-414 engines. Once we develop our own engine, it can be replaced with that. We expect the first flight in 2032,” a defence source said.
“There are two major ways of making a military platform stealthier. One is geometric stealth and other is material stealth. In geometric stealth, the shape of the aircraft is designed at such angles so as to deflect away maximum radar waves thereby minimising its radar cross section. In material stealth, radar-absorbing materials are used in making the aircraft which will absorb the radio waves thus reducing the radar footprint. The AMCA will initially be based on geometric stealth, we can look at material stealth at a later stage,” the source said.
The Indian Air Force has given land to the Defence Research and Development Organisation to set up facilities for the project.
The plan is to build on the capabilities and expertise developed during the development of the light combat aircraft (LCA) and produce a medium fifth generation fighter aircraft.
“Apart from the technologies developed from the LCA project, the new fighter programme is important as technologies coming in through that will flow into the AMCA project,” another official source said.
The aircraft will be powered by the same GE-414 engine on the LCA Mk-2 variant which is in the design phase.
A GE-414 produces 98kN thrust compared to 84kN thrust of the GE-404 engine which is on the LCA Mk1.
At Aero India 2016, DRDO officials had stated that the basic design configuration has been frozen after wind tunnel testing and there are three critical technologies that need to be developed -- stealth, thrust vectoring and super cruise.
This is India’s only fifth generation aircraft programme following the decision not to go ahead with the fifth generation project with Russia.
India building new fighter jet

First flight from 2019 to now 2032.. AMCA or any other 5th gen fighters are not coming to india before 2050.
I think there is nothing new in this article except a typing mistake. It should be 2022, not 2032
 
Moscow and New Delhi are going ahead with discussions on the fifth generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) project despite media reports on India’s withdrawal, Yury Slyusar, the president of the Russian United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), said on Sunday.
“We have not closed the topic, we continue to discuss with India the joint development of the fifth generation [aircraft]. The topic is not closed. It was reported quite intensely that the Indians are exiting this project – they are not withdrawing from it, they just ask a really large number of questions, to which, in our opinion, we give exhaustive answers.
As before, we proceed from the premise that the amount of technology that we are ready to transmit to India, no other country is not ready to transfer,” Slyusar told the Rossyia 1 broadcaster.
In April, Director for International Cooperation at Russia’s Rostec Viktor Kladov told Sputnik that Moscow had not received any notification from India on New Delhi’s alleged withdrawal from FGFA, thus denying media reports about India’s intention to leave the project.
The project implies that India will not only acquire new generation fighter jets, but will also launch their licensed production, according to the executive. Slyusar expressed his hope that the sides would switch to the design stage soon.
Under the Russian-Indian FGFA project, both sides would invest $4 billion each at the developmental stage, while the total cost of constructing 127 fighter jets is estimated to amount to $25 billion. In the project, the Russian side is represented by the Sukhoi aircraft manufacturer and the Indian side by Hindustan Aeronautics. The initial FGFA agreement was signed in 2007, the final agreement, which will include the project’s financing conditions, is yet to be signed.

Russia, India Engaged in Talks on 5th Generation Fighter Jet – UAC – Indian Defence Research Wing

What about the announcements made by Doval then?

Also, first flight of AMCA by 2032 is repeat of another LCA drama.. by the time this 1 gets inducted, 6th gen would be flying and 7th gen would be on drawing board. IAF will again cry about the design being old...
As per the last update FGFA is a dead project for IAF if IAF will be happy with the complete product in later stages mainly with stealth characteristic they may give a second chance but AMCA is the priority for IAF and it will be a complete stealth fighter plane in shape and size it will hunt enemy plane like a ghost in the sky with digital target accusations using data link from fighter plane ,awacs satellite and ground based radar and firing bvr missile without switching on it’s radar equipment.IAF is giving its input make this fighter truly a 5th generation fighter plane I don’t think they will switch their mind now.these are some bogus people who are spreading rumors.