Hope BDL starts license producing storm shadows, spear 3 and Brimstonea
So, IAF will use ASRAAM as their go-to WVR missile and label it as NGCCM. I am not getting why the DRDO did not develop a similar missile?
If Astra-IR was developed, we would have got our own Mica like system. WVR missiles market is full of contenders. e.g. USA has AIM-9X, UK has ASRAAM, France has Mica, Germany has IRIS-T, Russia has R-74 and Israel has Python-5.Did not they buy a batch of R73E again in 2019? ASRAAM local production was on the cards for some time & now confirmed so a good step. They already are using old past shelf life Rus a2a stuff into Samar system as sam, so I guess asraam would replace those old stocks. Astra IR seems reliant on the seeker being made first so on the backburner for now.
If it's Astra missile with IR head then no. It's not a WVR missile. It's a BVR missile with IR head like R-27.If Astra-IR was developed, we would have got our own Mica like system. WVR missiles market is full of contenders. e.g. USA has AIM-9X, UK has ASRAAM, France has Mica, Germany has IRIS-T, Russia has R-74 and Israel has Python-5.
DRDO started development work on a CCM either in the 2nd half of 2021 or in 2022. It should take 4-5 yrs for the missile to be certified & ready for mass production from date of commencement of developmental work .So, IAF will use ASRAAM as their go-to WVR missile and label it as NGCCM. I am not getting why the DRDO did not develop a similar missile?
My point is a bit different. There is no such thing as world's best missile or system. Everyone can claim their tech is the best.ASRAAM Block-6 is world's best IIR missile. It can pull 50+G at the rail and because of very clean aero has over 50kms range. It's the perfect J-20 killer for MKI. MKI with QWIP IRST and ASRAAM combo is going to be a very potent force, IMO.
Astra IR is different from NGCCM, I guess!
Is there any news regarding the development of a new CCM missile? I have never heard of it.DRDO started development work on a CCM either in the 2nd half of 2021 or in 2022. It should take 4-5 yrs for the missile to be certified & ready for mass production from date of commencement of developmental work .
My point is a bit different. There is no such thing as world's best missile or system. Everyone can claim their tech is the best.
Also, I think under no circumstances will PLAAF bring J-20 to a dog fight where the win is determined by IIR missile. J-20 role is to fire it's long range missile and disappear.
Is there any news regarding the development of a new CCM missile? I have never heard of it.
Um, I read somewhere that IAF addresses ASRAAM as the NGCCM so both are same. Just the thing is NGCCM will be produced by BDL.![]()
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Um, I read somewhere that IAF addresses ASRAAM as the NGCCM so both are same. Just the thing is NGCCM will be produced by BDL.
I am yet to find any post on new indigenous WVR which is under development.
ASRAAM isn't a pure WVR missile like R-73E. It has the longest range of all IIR missiles(along with MICA-IR) almost bordering on BVR ranges(over 50-60kms at high altitude). Its seeker is the most advance(block-6).My point is a bit different. There is no such thing as world's best missile or system. Everyone can claim their tech is the best.
Also, I think under no circumstances will PLAAF bring J-20 to a dog fight where the win is determined by IIR missile. J-20 role is to fire it's long range missile and disappear.
Is there any news regarding the development of a new CCM missile? I have never heard of it.
Nope, ASRAAM is pure WVR missile like Sidewinder or Python.ASRAAM isn't a pure WVR missile like R-73E. It has the longest range of all IIR missiles(along with MICA-IR) almost bordering on BVR ranges(over 50-60kms at high altitude). Its seeker is the most advance(block-6).
Of course it is WVR. That wasn't my point. But thanks to its clean aero vis-a-vis other Dogfight missiles like Python/Archer(look at the fins in missile body), it is much less draggy. Which results in much higher near BVR range fot it plus extra speed.Nope, ASRAAM is pure WVR missile like Sidewinder or Python.
Yes but since it's LOBL, its extra range advantage is hardly effective in real world.Longest ranged IR missile is R-27 family.