MSP is minimum support price not maximum. If grain prices will not cover the production cost, then how can agriculture sector survive. If we have surplus grain, then motivate farmers to switch to other agriculture products like vegetable oil crops by incentivising them, but not by destroying farmers.
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Because we don't need small farmers. It's bitter pill to swallow but we can't waste land on small farmers that can't compete they will have to change their business. Either that or they will have to grow niche crops instead. Like soybean.
Well that is how business happens. You guys cry about OFB and HAL making shitty quality products and then cry. Why can't the company have quality clauses for buying crops?
Do you buy rotten vegetables to empathise with the poor BMW riding farmers of Punjab? If you do you should get yourself checked to psychiatrist.
I will give you a great example for company that paid heavily for this. Remember Boeing they did exactly this for their 737 MAX and they outsourced their code for their mission computer if I'm not wrong to a cheap indian IT company and because of that have lost a major chunk of their civilian market to Airbus.
MSP is not being removed though?? So why all the hoolabaloo??
Nice, majority of Indian farmers are small farmers only. And u were saying majority of protestors are not farmers, if u r snatching their livelihood away, they will protest.I have asked who will decide the quality of crop then, what would happen if private company said this crop doesnt look good, I will pay u less but quality of that crop is ok.
for private option, there is no MSP.
It means exactly that. Since all the non-performing assets are weeded out and have to urbanise or change their business. More farming land is useless if you can't exploit it properly. And for that you need modern machinery and techniques for which you need elementary education to successfully exploit it. This doesn't happen with majority of Indian farmers.
China lost its agriculture strength to became a net food importer in the process of industrialising. Agriculture is what feudal societies do and is indirectly why the inequality due to caste system still continues..
Lessons from Bihar’s abolition of its APMC system for farmers
The retreat of APMCs may not help farmers without a regulatory framework for private markets
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State of bihari farmers doesnt look good
When did I say there were no farmers? I said the loudest of them were not farmers. The small farmers are ignorant idiots who don't understand the difference. MSP is not being removed the act is giving them freedom to sell to whoever they want breaking apmc monopoly. The farmers can still sell to the apmc. The government can still set msp if they want. It's just not part of the act. And it should be the case..
It's my opinion that small farmers should be completely removed and industrialisation be boosted. A different argument.
You need to improve your comprehension skills.
Indian GDP growth is -23 and farming sector is only sector that's actually growing at +4 and you want to destroy it? Almost 60% workforce is related to agriculture sector and you want to destroy them? Is this your model of sustainable growth? We don't want this type of Industrialization, where humanity lost in numbers. Can you give me an example of any country which become developed by destroying their farmers? You are telling that China became a net agriculture importer, still you want to destroy Indian farmers who are producing surplus food. There is dichotomy in your argument, on one hand your claiming these laws will revolutionize agriculture sector and increase production and on the other hand you are claiming that excessive food grain is already decaying in Govt godowns!
All of the major industrialised economies had to experience it. From China,Russia to SoKo all of them industrialised under totalitarian governments or monarchies. The only unique case being U.S which had a head start. India cannot industrialise simply because it's a democracy and these useless protest will continue to happen. Only small countries can have sustainable development like Denmark and Switzerland and they have a much larger output than an Indian farmer. If you want rapid industrialization you can't experience it with this emotional jumla. It's a painful process. You can't have sustainable development and industrialisation at the same time. We have missed the train already though. Indira could have done it. Now it's just too late..
The laws aren't implemented so how do you know they aren't performing well. They haven't abolished apmc's just given them a freedom to sell wherever they want to. The case of Bihar isn't even bad. Most of them were unaffected because they were subsistence farmers.
The rotting surplus grain coming from Punjab and Haryana. Opening it to the Private market avoids the wastage of this surplus grain. That surplus grain is useless if you can't export it or sell it..
India is not US or AUS, where you can have only large farmers. India is many times more population with 1/2 or 1/3 land mass as compared to the mentioned countries.
Last I checked, India is still free and democratic country, where Govts are elected by the people for the people not for corporate houses. Its not dictatorship like communist China, USSR or Nazi Germany, where Mody dictator will decide the fate of its citizens. We will bitterly oppose any undemocratic policies and regulations of dictator Mody.
We don't need small farmers. You wish those Gandhian fairy tales were true but it's all bullshit.
India is a free and democratic country also it's a undeveloped shithole. So don't blame the government for your Sub-Saharan living standards. Its entirely democratic for the people of india living like pathetic scum.
Ofcourse giving freedom to farmers to sell to whoever they want is undemocratic and fascist. Totally buddy. Please protest and block roads for the bmw riding farmers of punjab..
Why you need to abolish APMCs and involve private sector for export, Govt can export on its own. Even use private sector for export only. If you accept that we have surplus grain and its already rotting then why do you claiming to increase production through these reforms? What is the logic? Thank God, India is a democracy and not totalitarian state. Totalitarian states paid a heavy price for development in the form of deaths of millions of its people.
Farmers already has freedom to sell anywhere they want to sell. You have problem with farming sector or farmer's BMW? You are claiming to increase earning of these farmers through these reforms but on the other hand you have problem with already well earning farmers? Yes we will block roads for Maybach riding oligarchs and their a million's jacket wearing jumlebaz 'paaltoos'!
I would love to remove apmc but the government isn't removing them. The farmers can directly sell to whoever they want that is the act. The rest is your delusions. It's all the msp drama everybody is freaking out about. Which is on the government to decide . Since msp is not dependent on the law. So calm your tits.
Also we are paying a heavy price for not developing fast enough. The lack of state monopoly of violence has led to so many separatist movements that's what your freedom has given. India is not as free as your delusions let you percieve. We are a communist republic in a sense more than any thing. With Marxist chomus like you it's completely logical why we suck. And BJP is just a sanghi communist party at the end of the day.
I'm not debating you further on the farmer crap since you and that shaktimaan are happy in your delusions. You guys keep shifting goal posts and it's annoying. It's like talking to a wall. I just hope they crush this joke of a protest with extreme prejudice...
They are outperforming national average in agricultural growth regulatory for the last decade.
Brewery industry-Farmer Unions-Punjabi Landlord nexus must be delt with for good for any meaningful development in Agri sector otherwise Farmers will keep doing suicides(murder in my opinion) and aur Socialist Con gress and Farrari driving Samajwadi Netas will keep minting money
Landholdings are getting smaller every year due to division of assets in families
But small landholders or small farmers cannot invest in Modern technology like drip irrigation and mechanisation or fertilisers
So private capital has to step in
In ten years time we will have to feed 1.5 BILLION people
But small landholders or small farmers cannot invest in Modern technology like drip irrigation and mechanisation or fertilisers
So private capital has to step in
In ten years time we will have to feed 1.5 BILLION people
The simple bottomline is that if Farmers income does not increase
Then BJP is screwed
It is NOT a rocket science
So the government will have to make sure that their intended reforms do actually bring good results before the Next election
Then BJP is screwed
It is NOT a rocket science
So the government will have to make sure that their intended reforms do actually bring good results before the Next election
Haryana Farmers Break Ranks, Say Amended Farm Laws Will Suffice
A section of Haryana farmers have accepted in writing that they want the farm laws to stay, but with amendments. Representatives of three groups, which claimed to cumulatively represent 1,20,000 farmers from the state, met agriculture minister Narendra Tomar this evening, ahead of tomorrow's...
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In case you haven't noticed, the agitating farmers have demanded that the GoI incorporate MSP into the said act.
Haven't you checked out the total cost to the Exchequer the GoI shells out towards MSP which in turn exists only for food grains principally for rice & wheat which both Punjab & Haryana produce inefficiently with free power & water & heavily subsidised fertilizers especially given that rice is a water intensive crop not suited for growth there?
But since the FCI picks up most of the produce of P&H at MSP which in turn goes up each year, the vicious cycle continues. Moreover if MSP is your demand, why not raise the issue with the state government since Capt Amarinder Singh has already passed legislation negating the central laws. Let him put his money where his mouth is.
If you bring up the argument about MSP, tomorrow the state would have to subsidise every farmer for every crop be it grains, pulses, fruits, horticulture, etc. - the logic being why should only a few crops in selected areas of the country benefit at the cost of others.Apart from GoI lacking the finances & the fact that ot makes for bad economics just for argument's sake, if the GoI agrees , are you prepared to shell out additional money in taxes to make up the short fall?
Finally, minimum wage in industry & MSP aren't related. By that token just as a farmer asks for an MSP, what if industrialists from big & MSME sector start asking for a similar guaranteed price as subsidy from the GoI? Besides, while we're on MSP, Are the agricultural labourers in P&H paid as per the minimum wages act ?