Brahmos Supersonic Cruise Missile : News, Updates and Discussions
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BrahMos Aerospace is also working on a lighter version of the Brahmos missile, dubbed BrahMos NG (new generation); the missile is undergoing development and could have its maiden test flight by 2024-end, he said.
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At last, some credible update on NG. Looks like they are funding themselves.
BrahMos in talks to sell missile to nations in South East Asia, Middle East: CEO Atul Rane
Brahmos Aerospace was formed as a joint venture between India's DRDO and Russia's NPO Mashinostroyenia, the company was established in India in the year 1998. The word 'BrahMos' is derived from the names of India's Brahmaputra river and Russia's Moskva river.
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At last, some credible update on NG. Looks like they are funding themselves.
Struggling to keep track now, today STFE manik engine forgings tender came out. Hopefully the bigger accounts cover it soon.
Aatmanirbhar Bharat: MoD inks contract with BrahMos Aerospace Private Limited for Next Generation Maritime Mobile Coastal Batteries (Long range) & BrahMos Missiles worth Rs 1,700 crore
Posted On: 30 MAR 2023 6:56PM by PIB Delhi
Ministry of Defence, on March 30, 2023, inked a contract with BrahMos Aerospace Private Limited (BAPL) for procurement of Next Generation Maritime Mobile Coastal Batteries (Long range) {NGMMCB (LR)} and BrahMos Missiles at an approximate cost of over Rs 1,700 crore under Buy (Indian) Category. The delivery of NGMMCBs is scheduled to commence from 2027. These systems will be equipped with supersonic BrahMos Missiles and will significantly enhance multi-directional maritime strike capability of Indian Navy.
The BAPL is a Joint Venture between India and Russia making crucial contribution to augment the new generation Surface-to-Surface missile with enhanced ranges. This contract is going to give further boost to indigenous production of critical weapon system and ammunition with active participation of indigenous industries. This project will generate an employment of more than 90,000 man-days over a period of four years. With the majority of the equipment and sub-system sourced from indigenous manufacturers, these systems will be a proud flag bearer of ‘Aatmanirbhar Bharat’.
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Posted On: 30 MAR 2023 6:56PM by PIB Delhi
Ministry of Defence, on March 30, 2023, inked a contract with BrahMos Aerospace Private Limited (BAPL) for procurement of Next Generation Maritime Mobile Coastal Batteries (Long range) {NGMMCB (LR)} and BrahMos Missiles at an approximate cost of over Rs 1,700 crore under Buy (Indian) Category. The delivery of NGMMCBs is scheduled to commence from 2027. These systems will be equipped with supersonic BrahMos Missiles and will significantly enhance multi-directional maritime strike capability of Indian Navy.
The BAPL is a Joint Venture between India and Russia making crucial contribution to augment the new generation Surface-to-Surface missile with enhanced ranges. This contract is going to give further boost to indigenous production of critical weapon system and ammunition with active participation of indigenous industries. This project will generate an employment of more than 90,000 man-days over a period of four years. With the majority of the equipment and sub-system sourced from indigenous manufacturers, these systems will be a proud flag bearer of ‘Aatmanirbhar Bharat’.
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This habit of adding NG with everything is becoming really irritating. Long range & extended range are the same?
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India, Russia to build BrahMoS hypersonic version
Moscow is ahead of the US and other western powers in the development of hypersonic missiles, considered a game-changer in modern warfare. Hypersonic Weapon Systems (HWS) have been in the limelight since the onset of the Russia-Ukraine conflict. BrahMos-II could have the same performance...
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India, Russia to build BrahMoS hypersonic version
Moscow is ahead of the US and other western powers in the development of hypersonic missiles, considered a game-changer in modern warfare. Hypersonic Weapon Systems (HWS) have been in the limelight since the onset of the Russia-Ukraine conflict. BrahMos-II could have the same performance...
brahmos: India, Russia to build BrahMoS hypersonic version - The Economic Times
Moscow is ahead of the US and other western powers in the development of hypersonic missiles, considered a game-changer in modern warfare. Hypersonic Weapon Systems (HWS) have been in the limelight since the onset of the Russia-Ukraine conflict. BrahMos-II could have the same performance...
Brahmos ramjet wasn't supposed to be developed, it was supposed to be transferred to India and built in India via full ToT, but the Russians denied the tech. They used workshare as an excuse.
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India, Russia to build BrahMoS hypersonic version
Moscow is ahead of the US and other western powers in the development of hypersonic missiles, considered a game-changer in modern warfare. Hypersonic Weapon Systems (HWS) have been in the limelight since the onset of the Russia-Ukraine conflict. BrahMos-II could have the same performance...
Last year, CEO of BrahMos Aerospace, Atul Rane had said that it was "possible" that BrahMos-II would share some characteristics with Russia's Tsirkon missile.
"The whole world is working on a hypersonic cruise missile. The US and China are developing hypersonic versions of their cruise missiles. But they do not have them yet. I have not seen anyone in the world having hypersonic cruise missiles. Russia says it tested the Tsirkon hypersonic antiship cruise missile developed by NPO Mashinostroeniya," Rane told Russian news agency TASS last year. Rane had then stated that "technology bricks" for a hypersonic missile have been designed by both sides.
Everything else was just general stuff you already know.
Clues on how to differentiate the different versions.
MTCR-limited Brahmos = 290Km
Removed limitations = 400Km
Extended range = 450Km. I believe they introduced improved fuel management and flight trajectory here.
Near-hypersonic, mach 4.5 = 500Km. The additional speed increased the range of the 450Km version by 50Km more.
Long range version = 800 to 1000(?)Km. Very likely to be near-hypersonic. 800Km version is already operational in Russia (Oniks-M) and is being further enhanced. Of course, it could be referring to the next version, 1500Km.
Extra long range = 1500Km
Brahmos M/NG should see it being introduced with higher range too.
MTCR-limited Brahmos = 290Km
Removed limitations = 400Km
Extended range = 450Km. I believe they introduced improved fuel management and flight trajectory here.
Near-hypersonic, mach 4.5 = 500Km. The additional speed increased the range of the 450Km version by 50Km more.
Long range version = 800 to 1000(?)Km. Very likely to be near-hypersonic. 800Km version is already operational in Russia (Oniks-M) and is being further enhanced. Of course, it could be referring to the next version, 1500Km.
Extra long range = 1500Km
Brahmos M/NG should see it being introduced with higher range too.
WTF!!!Quite interesting read on the Brahmos misfire incident, one expelled officer filed charge, could not copy it but apparently this part was reason why they got terminated
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Brahmos Missile Misfire: Delhi High Court Issues Notice On Indian Air Force Officer's Plea Against Against Termination
The Delhi High Court Tuesday issued notice on a plea filed by an Indwww.livelaw.in
Failing to close the hatch... failing to ensure that no missile is actually fired.. Heck why do need simlator to even have a round in the first place?
Whats up with Indian defence forces lately?
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India, Russia to build BrahMoS hypersonic version
Moscow is ahead of the US and other western powers in the development of hypersonic missiles, considered a game-changer in modern warfare. Hypersonic Weapon Systems (HWS) have been in the limelight since the onset of the Russia-Ukraine conflict. BrahMos-II could have the same performance...
India, Russia to build BrahMoS hypersonic version
Moscow is ahead of the US and other western powers in the development of hypersonic missiles, considered a game-changer in modern warfare. Hypersonic Weapon Systems (HWS) have been in the limelight since the onset of the Russia-Ukraine conflict. BrahMos-II could have the same performance...
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I am yet to buy this high mach thing, despite all the efforts of Rajput Lion
LFRJ work best at upto mach 3.5, you up the mach number and the performance becomes detrimental as per some of the CFD analysis I read. Should have kept more reference in hand, but increasing the mach number would certainly compel it to change design of the ramjet itself due to considerable intake spillage. You have to change boundary layer bleed system, actuators will need different cover because intake will have higher mach number of airflow & different volume. Fuel tank will need to be bigger due to higher consumption. LFRJ itself is quite complex compared to solid propellant based system. For efficient performance in the end a set parameter model would be chosen. I just doubt its as high as 4.5mach level.Zircon aka the hypersonic onyx based one, will have both the high mach number & initial 800-1000km range, later you mature that scramjet further into extended 1500km range. All this because of sea level launch so it has to go up at good altitude to start the scramjet. Brahmos does not have that luxury, it takes 90 deg turn very early & then goes up slightly higher.
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Further to the above post, found that old pdf I was actually searching for, the initial Brahmos ramjet work related, quite old but very accurate & from the DRDL team. You can read through and see why certain parameter were chosen for satisfactory performance. If we try to increase speed to such 4.5mach level almost certainly the design will have to be modified again to satisfy the boundary conditions ie our own ramjet engine will need to be created. Our STAR itself will also have the same mach 3 speed per reports.
SFDR based system can probably reach mach 4.5 range , even touch 5 depending on high energy propellant used. Tradeoff will probably affect the maneuverability of the missile, you have a high maneuver capable Brahmos, but a much higher speed based one will lose energy trying to follow similar flight guidance and pull such maneuver, thereby lose some range. Another negative being high G load due to g force caused by such high speed which may need strong airframe and make it heavier.
SFDR based system can probably reach mach 4.5 range , even touch 5 depending on high energy propellant used. Tradeoff will probably affect the maneuverability of the missile, you have a high maneuver capable Brahmos, but a much higher speed based one will lose energy trying to follow similar flight guidance and pull such maneuver, thereby lose some range. Another negative being high G load due to g force caused by such high speed which may need strong airframe and make it heavier.
I am yet to buy this high mach thing, despite all the efforts of Rajput Lion
Zircon aka the hypersonic onyx based one, will have both the high mach number & initial 800-1000km range, later you mature that scramjet further into extended 1500km range. All this because of sea level launch so it has to go up at good altitude to start the scramjet. Brahmos does not have that luxury, it takes 90 deg turn very early & then goes up slightly higher.
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Ramjet can work up to mach 4.5, that's how Meteor gets that speed. The type of fuel doesn't matter, the main limitation is the airframe, as you've mentioned. So we can assume there will be both motor and airframe modifications, maybe not as much as we think.
In any case, it's what they officially say.
The BrahMos cruise missile will get a maximum speed of Mach 5 during its upgrade to become a hypersonic weapon, Russian Head of the BrahMos Aerospace Russia-India Joint Venture Alexander Maksichev told TASS at the LIMA 2019 arms show in Malaysia on Thursday.
"We hope that in the coming years we will reach the boundary, which some scientists call the hypersound. Perhaps, somewhere in the area of Mach 4.5-5," Maksichev said.
Zircon is of similar dimensions, but it has nothing to do with Oniks.
That is probably because Meteor is a2a, lighter airframe & launched at high altitude, motor burntime is less + SFDR based, not liquid ramjet. For a ground launched heavyweight missile like STAR/Brahmos a combination of solid booster and LFRJ is ideal for peak performance, even with spillage we will still get 2.8 high mach travel that can sustain for 10 mins plus. Fuel does matter though, kerosene gives very lower burn, at 1000K. That is why they add more additives to it. But Boron, Hydrogen fuel, Aluminium based propellant are of much higher quality. There is a chart in one of the pdf above for it. Tradeoff is one easier to handle, the others are not, hydrogen fuel cracking need high maintenance.
Honestly the hypersonic regime , all the CFD studies I have seen are in 6-8mach ranged & scramjet based where Hydrogen fuel will be used. With spillage the peak performance we will get will be somewhere between 6.2-7mach range imo. Whatever Rus gives us, they will insist on the core propulsion engine being bought from them like now, and they will certainly create a lower speed derivative of Zircon, ie a set of parameter satisfying our HSTDV boundary conditions. Zircon got a very good propellant that has fantastic burn, but unlikely that will be shared.
IN operates Brahmos from most of its capital warships. They are very satisfied with it. Even, the Next Generation vessels are going to use Brahmos. We are developing SLCM for the subs as Brahmos is too big for them and is very costly.
So, where exactly does the Brahmos-NG fits in all of this? The only case I can think of is using it on the SSN.
So, where exactly does the Brahmos-NG fits in all of this? The only case I can think of is using it on the SSN.
For starter I am not sure NG will have ground launch version yet, they have shown it mostly on the jets, su30, LCA probably. So it maybe air launched predominantly at first, later ground based derivative?