They never have a requirement till they do. Arihant is useless as an SSBN. As an SSGN it is an amazing design.
Brahmos Supersonic Cruise Missile : News, Updates and Discussions
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What? It's a key strategic system underpinning the entire second-strike doctrine.
SSGN don't make any sense for India as of today. Other than fanboy imaginations.
You aren't second striking anything with sagarika's. That's my personal opinion. I wish the arihant class turns into a SSGN carrier with ability to fire brahmos, nirbhay and k-15.
Our SSBN and second strike capability is limited until K6 doesn't go online.
As of now, IN does not have any requirement for a SSGN. Also, the difference between SSGN and SSN has diminished.
I read that ATV was based on a SSGN design. True SSBN capability will come with S-5 class.
Going by the reports, LR-LACM will be used exclusively by IN and IAF. Both want a weapon which can strike way beyond 1500km. So it means only ITCM/Nirbhay will cater to the needs of IA.
Honestly, I thought there would be some design modification, one being our own engine thrust would dictate some changes, 2nd being experience of subsonic missile being shoot down over tightly contested airspace will compel our armed force to ask for certain changes.
Quite interesting read on the Brahmos misfire incident, one expelled officer filed charge, could not copy it but apparently this part was reason why they got terminated
www.livelaw.in
Brahmos Missile Misfire: Delhi High Court Issues Notice On Indian Air Force Officer's Plea Against Against Termination
The Delhi High Court Tuesday issued notice on a plea filed by an Ind
Rather than re-design. I hope they bring in cooperative engagement of lrasm/jassm xr's. And ofcourse a bigger warhead. With a terminal mach 3 phase like kalibr and yj-18
Yeah I agree, though terminal high supersonic is not priority imo. That sort of kinetic energy you suggest at mach 3, greater than 2000kts is only achievable via hybrid propulsion which will up the cost. The other factor is warhead class, if you use 400-700kg class warhead it will almost certainly not use high supersonic propulsion. Nirbhay/ITCM theme is high payload delivery at lower kinetic speed ie do the damage via high explosive payload.
My assumption is based on after seeing many shot down subsonic missiles recently, its design need to incorporate some changes to counter the threat. A fired missile is on its own with the selected waypoint navigation, so it needs some maneuver ability from manpads threat.
BrahMos missile project has achieved 75% indigenous capability: Atul Dinkar Rane
Rane said that when BrahMos launched their first missile in 2004, they had only 13 percent of indigenous components inside, but in the next 25 years, it increased to 75 per cent
Very good details here, read it: ‘BrahMos missile is now 78% indigenous’: BrahMos Aerospace CEO to WION
I thought we already mastered this technology & are on our way to develop the SCRAMJET within 6-7 yrs. What's he talking about ?
Our LFRJ STAR is yet to make enough ground to be put into a missile yet. Frankly I think other mission mode projects like BMD, astra vlsrsam vshorads ngarm etc got priority & STAR SFDR etc are a bit sidelined now. DRDO did say they have shortage of manpower (6913 currently vs sanctioned 7700 scientists level) so projects are taken by priority basis.
So going by the T/L he's put out we'd be mastering both the RAMJET & SCRAMJET technologies around the same time .
SFDR can't be sidelined. It's vital for our air dominance. If this news is true then it's absolutely pathetic. Only reason I may think for delay of this high-level JV could be Russia-Ukraine war. Maybe Russian help is required to move this project at a fast pace. Last I heard, literally all ground tests were done and they were preparing for flight trials. The delay news is absolutely heart-breaking if true
Akash missile uses solid fuel ramjet and we've mastered the tech. No reason why we can't master the liquid fueled ones. Maybe we're just respecting the terms of the JV. Nothing more, nothing less.
their TL is like accelerating brahmos itself, almost certainly several years on the extended side. But heard from people who had good discussion with them during defexpo and according to them the NG version is targeted for 2024 at the earliest.
Not wholly sidelined, rather the intensity of the tests will be low, compared to systems like vshorads mpatgm etc which are of higher priority to the user and will see relatively frequent testing.SFDR can't be sidelined. It's vital for our air dominance. If this news is true then it's absolutely pathetic. Only reason I may think for delay of this high-level JV could be Russia-Ukraine war. Maybe Russian help is required to move this project at a fast pace. Last I heard, literally all ground tests were done and they were preparing for flight trials. The delay news is absolutely heart-breaking if true
