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Landivisiau. Carrier base: "The Navy will celebrate its 100th anniversary of aircraft carriers"
During the presentation of his wishes, the Captain of Gramont, commander of the naval air base of Landivisiau, returned in particular to night landing training, and the first local jobs.

It is in front of a large parterre made up of officers, petty officers, quartermasters, sailors and civilian personnel of the Naval Air Base of Landivisiau (Finistère) and the flared antennas, as well as representatives of the national and local authorities, that the captain of spaceship Laurent Machard de Gramont presented his 2020 wishes.

When beginning his intervention, he had "a thought for all the comrades who died during the autumn, as well as the French soldiers who gave their lives for France and the defense of its values during the year 2019, during Mali, Burkina Faso and Lebanon ”.

"The era of all Owls"
The year 2019 was rich in successes, especially with the boarding of the air group in the first half, for the first operational deployment of the aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle since its exit from a major technical stop. A mission that led him to participate actively in the fight against Daesh and to strengthen the French presence in Southeast Asia…

The second semester enabled the completion of a landing qualification campaign, particularly at night. "This era of Owls allows each pilot to be operational and able to carry out night combat missions on board ... Because, it is at night that the first decisive phase is won against a powerful and determined adversary ..." , underlined the commander of the BAN.

Captain Laurent Machard de Gramont underlined the value of the experience gained from on-board hunting, pointed out that "the Navy was going to celebrate 100 years of aircraft carriers in 2020, with the only parenthesis, the period of the Second World War ".

A "PIJ" in the spring
The year 2020 should also display many significant events. Like the “Foch Deployment” in the coming days, the delivery of infrastructure for the 17F, the 3rd Rafale flotilla, the ramp-up of the protection capabilities of the Naval Air Base with the renovation of its entrance booth…

“The naval air base is more than ever in its territory with the arrival on the basis of the first local jobs, a new contract allowing young people to have the guarantee of staying on the Landivisiau site for two to four years, while receiving quality training and a job for the future, ” also noted the captain.

The year 2020 will also fall fully within the theme of human resources with “the organization, in spring 2020, on the basis of an Information and Presentation Day (IPD) of naval aeronautics, a sort of open day mini-day for young people interested in its professions ”.

Naval aviation will also be present at Brest 2020 to showcase this component of the Navy, which is sometimes overlooked by the public.
 
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Static "weighing" consists of a submarine in its new condition or leaving a large fairing (IPER) to position itself within a safe body of water for its own safety and that of others. Unlike the weighing that takes place at the beginning or during a patrol while the submarine is in motion, static diving will see the boat break down, at the mercy of currents if any.

The crew will then proceed to a watertightness round, which is the prerequisite for any dive. When the patrolmen report that all the openings are closed and in the right position, the commanding officer can then order all the vents to be maneuvered: the ballast tanks fill with water so that the boat can dive. The rods report the condition of the hull openings again as the boat sinks into its element.

Static weighing will assess whether the vessel is properly balanced fore to aft and port to starboard according to the calculations from which it was designed. The submarine must be perfectly balanced between two waters: the buoyancy must be zero. The submarine's manoeuvring qualities depend on this because if the weighing reveals defects that are not corrected, then they will reduce the freedom of manoeuvre. A certain number of trim and trim boxes allow the boat's swing to be corrected, if necessary. Hence the knowledge of the displacement when diving according to the amount of water to be admitted in these boxes, compared to the theoretical model that was calculated at the design office.

Hence the importance of the exercise which most probably took place between the end of the mast and the end of the afternoon, as this first weighing of the Barracuda program head-of-series will serve as a reference for all the others, especially if modifications were to be made.

All the means visible and in support of the Suffren have not left the zone at the time of publication of these lines: the Garonne and the Cormorant are still off Cherbourg, the Rhone at anchor north-east of St Brieuc and the Cassiopeia anchoring off Le Havre. It would almost seem that the Suffren will be heading directly to Brest in the wake of its static weighting as the arrangements for framing it are taking a long time to get up.

Next steps: surface navigation trials?

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Video: French Navy’s Next Gen SSN Suffren Begins Sea Trials
The next generation submarine went out to sea for the very first time, off Cherbourg in Normandie, where the Naval Group submarine shipyard is located.

Led by the French Direction Générale de l’Armement (DGA), these sea trials will confirm the seaworthiness and efficiency of the submarine before its delivery to the French Navy (Marine Nationale).

This next generation submarine has a length of 99 meters and a submerged displacement of 5,300 tonnes. It has a crew of 65 sailors and accommodations for 15 naval special force operators. Its weapon systems include naval cruise missiles, F21 heavy-weight torpedoes, Exocet SM39 anti-ship missiles and sea mines.
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Video: French Navy's Next Gen SSN Suffren Begins Sea Trials - Naval News

The French Navy's first-in-class nuclear-powered attack submarine (SSN) "Suffren" successfully completed its static dive test on April 28. The important milestone marked the start of sea trials for the Barracuda program.
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The french SSN are among the smaller of the world (if not the smallest). As the FREMM french frigates the level of automation is very high, so as to reduce the crew (in the FREMM case the french navy was forced to come back a little).
The number of weapons? 20 F21 torpedoes can ruin a complete foe armada.... It's like the AA missile on a single fighter.... Are the 10 or 12 AMRAAM on a F15 SE really usefull? I have a doubt.
 
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Future Navy aircraft carrier to be nuclear powered

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The successor to Charles de Gaulle (here in the photo) should also be equipped with nuclear propulsion (Credits: Philippe Wojazer)
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"We are ready," announced Minister of the Armed Forces Florence Parly. It decided for a new generation aircraft carrier (PANG) of 70,000 / 75,000 tonnes with nuclear propulsion. To Emmanuel Macron to decide in June.
During a Ministerial Investment Committee (CMI), which took place at the end of February, the Ministry of the Armed Forces arbitrated in favor of a new generation aircraft carrier (PANG) of 70,000 / 75,000 tonnes with a nuclear propulsion rather than conventional, according to concordant sources. This is what Minister Florence Parly recommends to the President of the Republic, who will decide in June on the occasion of a Defense Council.
"On the new generation aircraft carrier, we are ready , confirmed on Monday during her hearing at the National Assembly the Minister of the Armed Forces, questioned by LREM deputy from Finistère, Didier Le Gac. We have finalized the work that we had to finalize, to allow a decision. And therefore the arbitrations should be rendered in the calendar, which had been initially fixed " .
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The nuclear option has come a long way
The nuclear option comes from far, far away. Because it was really not in the plans of a part of the cabinet of Florence Parly and the DGA (General Directorate of Armament), which leaned 2.5 years ago for a conventional propulsion. "At the start, we weren't even looking at the nuclear option , do we explain one ...
 
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Picdelamirand-oil said:
Future Navy aircraft carrier to be nuclear powered

la-france-va-deployer-le-porte-avions-charles-de-gaulle-au-levant.jpg

The successor to Charles de Gaulle (here in the photo) should also be equipped with nuclear propulsion (Credits: Philippe Wojazer)
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"We are ready," announced Minister of the Armed Forces Florence Parly. It decided for a new generation aircraft carrier (PANG) of 70,000 / 75,000 tonnes with nuclear propulsion. To Emmanuel Macron to decide in June.
During a Ministerial Investment Committee (CMI), which took place at the end of February, the Ministry of the Armed Forces arbitrated in favor of a new generation aircraft carrier (PANG) of 70,000 / 75,000 tonnes with a nuclear propulsion rather than conventional, according to concordant sources. This is what Minister Florence Parly recommends to the President of the Republic, who will decide in June on the occasion of a Defense Council.

The nuclear option has come a long way
The nuclear option comes from far, far away. Because it was really not in the plans of a part of the cabinet of Florence Parly and the DGA (General Directorate of Armament), which leaned 2.5 years ago for a conventional propulsion. "At the start, we weren't even looking at the nuclear option , do we explain one ...
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What's the timeline?
 
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What's the timeline?
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The new French aircraft carrier will be put into service in 2036

"It is here, in Saint-Nazaire, that the new generation aircraft carrier will be built, which will succeed the Charles de Gaulle in 2038, with, in line of sight, 2036 for the first sea trials," said the Minister for the Armed Forces Florence Parly, who was on site to cut the first sheet of a force supply building.

The only French aircraft carrier, the Charles de Gaulle, will be replaced by this new generation aircraft carrier which must be built in Saint-Nazaire because "the Chantiers de l'Atlantique are the only shipyards capable of building a ship of such a size and such a tonnage, "explained Ms. Parly to the press. "We are working in the form of studies" on this new generation aircraft carrier, continued the minister, and "we will have the opportunity to talk about it in a few months since the President of the Republic will be called upon to take decisions in this area in a few months. "

"The aircraft carrier will have to be overboard in 2036 for its first tests," insisted Parly, but it is still too early to discuss the budget for the construction of the ship intended to take over from Charles de Gaulle, which "will arrive at end of life in 2038-2040 ".

"The military programming law provides for the budget for studies and when the President of the Republic has made his decisions, most of the resources intended for the construction of this new aircraft carrier will appear in a forthcoming military programming law", a- she explained.

Ms. Parly is traveling in the west of France. In Saint-Nazaire, she was able to observe the gigantic cruise ships which are under construction and in particular the ultra-luxurious "Celebrity Apex" which is finished but could not set sail due to the pandemic of Covid-19 .

The immobilization of this giant of the seas symbolizes the uncertainties around the cruise market and military orders are more essential than ever for the Chantiers de l'Atlantique.

Questioned on this subject, the Minister assured that "the State will be present alongside the Chantiers de l'Atlantique, as well as alongside all the companies of the industrial defense base, to contribute to the recovery of the economy French ".

Ms. Parly participated in a cutting ceremony for the first sheet of a force supply vessel to be delivered by Chantiers de l'Atlantique in 2022.

It will be the first in a series of four ships to be delivered in 2022, 2025, 2027 and 2029, said the minister.

By cutting the sheet in one of the manufacturing workshops, Ms. Parly praised the expertise of the "largest shipyard in Europe" and gave details of the characteristics of supply vessels. They will make it possible to supply the ships of the French Navy with fuels, ammunition, spare parts and food.

One of the novelties, compared to the three current supply vessels, is that they will have a "double hull to protect the oceans from any oil incident".
 
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The new French aircraft carrier will be put into service in 2036

"It is here, in Saint-Nazaire, that the new generation aircraft carrier will be built, which will succeed the Charles de Gaulle in 2038, with, in line of sight, 2036 for the first sea trials," said the Minister for the Armed Forces Florence Parly, who was on site to cut the first sheet of a force supply building.

The only French aircraft carrier, the Charles de Gaulle, will be replaced by this new generation aircraft carrier which must be built in Saint-Nazaire because "the Chantiers de l'Atlantique are the only shipyards capable of building a ship of such a size and such a tonnage, "explained Ms. Parly to the press. "We are working in the form of studies" on this new generation aircraft carrier, continued the minister, and "we will have the opportunity to talk about it in a few months since the President of the Republic will be called upon to take decisions in this area in a few months. "

"The aircraft carrier will have to be overboard in 2036 for its first tests," insisted Parly, but it is still too early to discuss the budget for the construction of the ship intended to take over from Charles de Gaulle, which "will arrive at end of life in 2038-2040 ".

"The military programming law provides for the budget for studies and when the President of the Republic has made his decisions, most of the resources intended for the construction of this new aircraft carrier will appear in a forthcoming military programming law", a- she explained.

Ms. Parly is traveling in the west of France. In Saint-Nazaire, she was able to observe the gigantic cruise ships which are under construction and in particular the ultra-luxurious "Celebrity Apex" which is finished but could not set sail due to the pandemic of Covid-19 .

The immobilization of this giant of the seas symbolizes the uncertainties around the cruise market and military orders are more essential than ever for the Chantiers de l'Atlantique.

Questioned on this subject, the Minister assured that "the State will be present alongside the Chantiers de l'Atlantique, as well as alongside all the companies of the industrial defense base, to contribute to the recovery of the economy French ".

Ms. Parly participated in a cutting ceremony for the first sheet of a force supply vessel to be delivered by Chantiers de l'Atlantique in 2022.

It will be the first in a series of four ships to be delivered in 2022, 2025, 2027 and 2029, said the minister.

By cutting the sheet in one of the manufacturing workshops, Ms. Parly praised the expertise of the "largest shipyard in Europe" and gave details of the characteristics of supply vessels. They will make it possible to supply the ships of the French Navy with fuels, ammunition, spare parts and food.

One of the novelties, compared to the three current supply vessels, is that they will have a "double hull to protect the oceans from any oil incident".
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When are the French planning the construction? Any details on its timeline & tonnage? Further what are the numbers we're talking of here?
 
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When are the French planning the construction? Any details on its timeline & tonnage? Further what are the numbers we're talking of here?
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In France the projects are progressing step by step: for the time being, they have been fixed:
  • That we're going to build a new aircraft carrier,
  • That it will be between 70,000 t and 75,000 t,
  • That it must be built so that testing can begin in 2036,
  • And that it will be nuclear-powered.

Architectural studies have now been launched because the budget for such studies is not very high and it saves a lot of time to start them now, and the major options and the first serious contracts will be taken in a few months and will be part of the next military programming act.
 
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France Just Test Fired A Submarine Launched Ballistic Missile In The Atlantic
The French Triomphant class nuclear ballistic missile submarine (SSBN) Le Téméraire test-fired an M51 submarine-launched ballistic missile in the Atlantic off of Finistère, France in the early hours of June 12th, 2020. Some sort of a test appeared to be in the works just three days ago when Le Téméraire was spotted sailing out of port with huge test instrumentation masts attached that are commonly fitted to submarines prior to developmental ballistic missile launches. Then, last evening, our good friend @aircraftspots began tracking a U.S. Air Force RC-135S Cobra Ball ballistic missile and rocket tracking aircraft flying out over the Caribbean. Not long after, a French Falcon 50 maritime patrol aircraft showed up in the area, indicating a launch was likely imminent.

If the launch occurred off France in the Eastern Atlantic, the Cobra Ball was likely involved in tracking the missile's midcourse and possibly its terminal phase to impact. The Falcon 50 may have been up to make sure the termination area was cleared of sea traffic. It's also very possible that the impact or flight termination area was in another region altogether and this is just the vantage point the RC-135S wanted to get of the test. In that case, the presence of the French Falcon 50 maritime patrol jet may have been just a coincidence as they are a common sight in that area.


Roughly similar to the U.S. and Royal Navies' UGM-133A Trident II SLBM, albeit with a bit less range, the M51 was just introduced into service in 2010. An enhanced variant, the M51.3 (or version three), is currently in development. It's possible, if not highly probable, that the missile tested was the M51.3. The Triomphant class submarine used for the test is the last of four SSBNs in the French Navy's inventory to be thoroughly refitted to receive the M51.

Globalsecurity.org describes the M51.3 as such:

"The work on the third version (M51.3) were launched in 2014. The M51.3 is designed to maintain the capabilities of the ocean component facing the most severe missile defenses, which will enter service in the middle of the next decade [eg, about 2025] when the M51.1 ends it service life. The M51.3 program is a development of a new third stage of the M51 missile (M51.3) for commissioning after 2020, the current stage having continued from the previous generation M45. It will offer on the operational plan for increased performance."
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It would be interesting to know if the Cobra Ball was recording the test on behalf of the French or if it was collecting intelligence on its own.


Beyond potentially testing France's latest and most advanced SLBM, which will represent the backbone of the country's nuclear deterrent for decades to come, the launch also serves as a reminder to France's potential foes that it possesses an extremely potent second-strike nuclear capability. Each Triumphant class submarine carries 16 SLBMs, each of which is capable of carrying up to six (possibly even ten) multiple independently targetable reentry vehicles (MIRVs).

Update: 10:15 AM EST—
France's Minister of the Armed Forces, Florence Parly, has issued a statement about the test launch, in French.

The statement says, in part:
The missile was tracked throughout its flight phase by radars. The impact zone is located in North Atlantic several hundred kilometers from all sides. This test was carried out without nuclear warhead and in strict compliance with France’s international commitments. This firing validates the operational capacity of the SSBN Le Téméraire’s global weapon system and once again demonstrates the high-tech excellence that French industries are implementing in this area.
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The French Navy's Chief of Staff, Admiral Christophe Prazuck, has also Tweeted out a message congratulating the crew of Le Téméraire, as well as other personnel involved.

In addition to the aircraft monitoring the test, France's Directorate General of Armaments (DGA) says that the French Navy's missile range instrumentation ship Monge was also involved in tracking the M51's flight. Monge was spotted docked in San Juan, Puerto Rico, last month.
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France Just Test Fired A Submarine Launched Ballistic Missile In The Atlantic (Updated)

A U.S. Air Force RC-135S Cobra Ball launch surveillance aircraft took in the test while orbiting over the Caribbean.
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Towards Initial Operational Capability of the Atlantic 2 Standard 6

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The Dassault Atlantique maritime patrol aircraft upgraded to Standard 6 configuration has completed the ‘weapon’ portion of its operational evaluation by the French Navy, and is nearing Initial Operational Capability (IOC). (French Navy photo)
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As part of the operational evaluation (EVALOPS) of the modernized Atlantic 2 (ATL2) Standard 6, and despite the current health restrictions due to Covid-19, the ATL2 detachment from the Naval Aviation’s Center for Practical Experimentation and Reception (CEPA/10S) carried out several weeks of intense training and qualification activities from its new duty station on the Lann-Bihoué Naval Aviation Base.

Successively missions flown in anti-submarine, anti-ship and air-land warfare configuration allowed the evaluation of the new sensors, but above all allowed several crews to train and qualify on this new aircraft standard.

This intensive activity was completed in early June with the successful firing, just two days apart, of a self-designated GBU-12 laser-guided bomb and of an AM39 Exocet anti-ship missile.

After the validation launch of an MU90 torpedo carried out at the end of 2019, these last two firing by the detachment’s evaluation crew concluded the “armaments” portion of the operational evaluation (EVALOPS), and to attain new milestones necessary towards the future Initial Operating Capability of the Atlantic 2 Standard 6.

The Atlantic 2 is one of the few aircraft in service in the world designed specifically for armed anti-submarine warfare. It thus contributes to ensuring the autonomy and security of the Strategic Oceanic Force, as well as to protecting a naval force at sea against both underwater and surface threats.

It participates in the control of the naval environment both under and on the surface, from the littoral zone to the open sea, but can also support the air-land operations thanks to its capability to carry out intelligence missions and air-strikes on ground targets. The modernization of the Atlantic 2 weapon system is intended to allow the operational employment of the aircraft beyond 2030.

Furthermore, the modernized ATL2 Standard 6 adds a new combat system and modern sensors: radar, optronics and digital acoustic processing system. The Atlantique 2 Standard 6s are thus fitted with a new radar using the latest technology from the Rafale’s active antenna radar.

In line with the Mercator plan, which sets the roadmap towards a cutting-edge Navy, the Atlantic 2 Standard 6 allows French Naval Aviation to return to the relatively closed circle of high-performance maritime patrol aircraft, particularly in the field of submarine tracking.
 
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@halloweene, @Bon Plan, @Picdelamirand-oil is this the correct procedure for dealing with an ASW helicopter attack for French submarines?


Overall it was a decent film but this has to be one of the dumbest scenes in movie history, and those helicopter bullets, air rifle pellets presumably.
 
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