AMCA mk2 airframe is going to be much more advanced than F22 definitely due to better materials now available and better technology of construction. Further, there will be structural changes in AMCA mk2 from current AMCA mk 1.
Comparing AMCA to say J31/35 is fine. AMCA MK2 to Su57 is also fine.
The reason for tailed design in AMCA mk 1 is coz IAF requirements and that too will improve in mk2. There will be structural changes to be in mk2 design. tailless designs are also not a revolutionary concept as far as i knw. Since we are fast catching up in avionics and both france & US supporting us in AMCA, we will be having best avionics in AMCA mk2 (only NGAD will be ahead). Timeframes are same for FCAS & AMCA are same. Everybody will be going to be atleast half a generation behind US. So basically & naturally FCAS, Tempest & AMCA mk2 are all going to be 5.5+ gen. It is based on the requirements and future roadmap of these projects that i can gather.AMCA Mk2 is 5.5th gen. FCAS is 6th gen.
AMCA's airframe is conventional, whereas FCAS will either have a tailless design or a fin-tail design.
AMCA's engine is unlikely to be better than what's going on the FCAS. Unless we make our own, we will always be behind.
AMCA's avionics will naturally be behind considering it in a more advanced stage of development whereas the FCAS isn't even on paper properly yet.
AMCA's timeline is different. By the time AMCA Mk1 enters production, FCAS may at best be seeing first flight of a prototype. It's kinda like the difference between Rafale and F-35. When Rafale entered full scale production, the F-35 had its first flight.
Today, we are a decade behind France, and France is a decade behind the US. If we play our cards right, in 20 years we can match the French with a naval 6th gen design, by 2040-45, and take the lead by a decade or more with a much more advanced design for the IAF by 2045-50. AMCA is simply a stepping stone towards that goal.
Only way for the FCAS to go forward is to drop the NGF from it. Germany and Spain will not need it since they will get the F-35. So there's no point in keeping it as part of the multinational program. We can keep the "remote carriers" and "combat cloud" and all that stuff that's aimed at being used with the Typhoon, Rafale, A400M and A330 MRTT.
That was true 20 years ago. But like every other aircraft, the F-22 needs regular upgrades to stay relevant, and they're especially expensive for this type, as it was designed for maximum performances and with very little regard towards maintenance considerations.
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Nah you will have tempest, fcas and the Chinese sixth gen whatever that will be ahead. And the Japanese sixth gen too. I do hope there is fifth gen programme for tedbf though.
I remember reading articles in the wake of Aero India ( 19 or 21 ?) where post TEDBF & IAF AMCA Mk-2, testing would commence on Naval AMCA which means post TEDBF we'd see design activities commence for Naval AMCA.
But wouldn't doing the tedbf similar to the kfx project be a better way. Go for phase 1 4.5 gen then go for stealth version with iwb and a larger fuel capacity. They can just do a similar wing to the FCAS and remove the standard tail and get slanted tails instead. Since tedbf is meant to be designed as a naval fighter unlike the amca.
French and America is a lot closer to each other. The gap isn't that huge atleast in the electronics department and in some cases the French are ahead of the Americans. Funnily the British destroyed their own lead by conforming to american speeds of weapons development and their way of warfighting. Other wise they would be similarly ahead of them like the French.AMCA Mk2 is 5.5th gen. FCAS is 6th gen.
AMCA's airframe is conventional, whereas FCAS will either have a tailless design or a fin-tail design.
AMCA's engine is unlikely to be better than what's going on the FCAS. Unless we make our own, we will always be behind.
AMCA's avionics will naturally be behind considering it in a more advanced stage of development whereas the FCAS isn't even on paper properly yet.
AMCA's timeline is different. By the time AMCA Mk1 enters production, FCAS may at best be seeing first flight of a prototype. It's kinda like the difference between Rafale and F-35. When Rafale entered full scale production, the F-35 had its first flight.
Today, we are a decade behind France, and France is a decade behind the US. If we play our cards right, in 20 years we can match the French with a naval 6th gen design, by 2040-45, and take the lead by a decade or more with a much more advanced design for the IAF by 2045-50. AMCA is simply a stepping stone towards that goal.
There are a lot of commonalities between all the 3 programs viz Tejas LCA Mk-2, AMCA Mk-1 & Mk-2 & TEDBF.
Is Macron likely to lose? Secondly if Macron continues will France stay in NATO?
a short /offtopic, not first time i read this, and i’m concerned as a french: because i’m arrogant.
