More men isn't the right direction to go in anyways. India's Army is a unique Army in this day and age that insists on adding more foot soldiers instead of cutting manpower and becoming technologically advanced/using force multipliers. The Indian Army is building a force for the past instead of the present or future; and the worst part is that they get away with this sort of terrible, stupid planning and are rewarded with the Lion's share of the budget, meanwhile the Air Force and Navy are starved of funds relatively speaking.
IAF Chronicles - A side view of whats going on behind the closed doors in New Delhi
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More men isn't the right direction to go in anyways. India's Army is a unique Army in this day and age that insists on adding more foot soldiers instead of cutting manpower and becoming technologically advanced/using force multipliers. The Indian Army is building a force for the past instead of the present or future; and the worst part is that they get away with this sort of terrible, stupid planning and are rewarded with the Lion's share of the budget, meanwhile the Air Force and Navy are starved of funds relatively speaking.
Yeah, post-elections budget.
This year, let the govt do what they can to win. If they don't win, then we are screwed for the next 5 years.
Most of the money is going into welfare spending.
I agree with the IAF assessment.
We have 3 Phalcons, 2 Netras, 6 Midas, along with only 11 C-17s, 17 IL-76s and 12 C-130Js. How do we split such few assets among 3 or 4 commands? And we also have only 32 squadrons of fighter jets.
Only the IA and IN are ready today to transition to theatre commands. The IAF is at least 15 years away.
Lol, why is Indian procurement so short sighted? It's a common trait amongst the West, but India seems to take it to an extreme level.
Anyone with a brain could have told you India should have ordered more C-17's or why bother committing initially anyways?
Just imagine how much simpler logistics would have been if the IAF had the strategic air lift thing completely down. A domestic solution is at least 20 years from happening with at least 30 years before it takes over primary operations.
Or.. India could have kept the Boeing production line rolling and when caught off guard they desperately tried to purchase 3 more and ended up with one more.
An absolute joke that could have long term reparations on India's security climate. Logistics is the one place you NEVER *censored* around with. Shiny new weapons without the logistics to back em up is what *censored*ed the Nazis.
Anyone with a brain could have told you India should have ordered more C-17's or why bother committing initially anyways?
Just imagine how much simpler logistics would have been if the IAF had the strategic air lift thing completely down. A domestic solution is at least 20 years from happening with at least 30 years before it takes over primary operations.
Or.. India could have kept the Boeing production line rolling and when caught off guard they desperately tried to purchase 3 more and ended up with one more.
An absolute joke that could have long term reparations on India's security climate. Logistics is the one place you NEVER *censored* around with. Shiny new weapons without the logistics to back em up is what *censored*ed the Nazis.
India's procurement is not shortsighted. We have alternate options for heavy lift if necessary. And we are pretty good when it comes to heavy lift already. The IL-76s are good until 2040. Exercises revealed the IL-76 is tactically superior to the C-17. And we can buy the new IL-476 whenever we want.
Link? I'd be interested in reading about the C-17 vs IL-76.
course I'm not surprised, the C-17 isn't about the tactical.
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What do you guys think about the claim that "the Gripen E is currently the most advanced aircraft in development anywhere in the world today"?
And also about it having the most advanced EW suite in the Western world?
We're gonna have to prove it. I prefer the F4 version of the Rafale. But it is true that there are only 2 planes in development today in the West, the F-35 and the Gripen, the Rafale is not any more in development, we develop a new standard that's it.
Nobody know exactly what is done by competitor. I'm confident on the Rafale suite but I understand that SAAB is confident on its own suite.
Right now, yeah. But we have to wait for the jet to start flying against other air forces before we can conclude anything.
TRISHUL: IAF Rafale M-MMRCA Costings & Platform Modification/Customisation Details
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Please post this on PDF especially this juicy part
All the IAF Rafales will feature 14 customer-specific modifications, comprising: 1) integration of the RAFAEL-supplied LITENING target acquisition/designation pod; 2)integration of the RAFAEL-supplied Spice-1000 standoff PGM and its related data-link pod; 3) integration of MBDA-supplied Meteor BVRAAM and ALARM anti-radiation missile; 4)integration of the RAFAEL-supplied X-Guard towed-decoy and development of its on-board location cabinets; 5)upgradation of the SPECTRA EW suite to accommodate low-band, medium-band and high-band directional jammer apertures; 6) integration of the TARGO-2 HMDS supplied by Elbit Systems (also ordered by Qatar); 7)installation of a THALES-supplied traffic collision avoidance system (TCAS); 8) installation of a THALES-supplied standby radar altimeter; 9)Optimisation of the M88 turbofan’s jet-fuel starter for operating in sub-zero temperatures at altitudes above 9,000 feet ASL; 10) increase in the capacity of the on-board OBOGS; 11) addition of weather-mapping mode of operation in the THALES-supplied RBE-2 AESA-MMR; 12) development of quad-pack ejectors for the DRDO-engineered and Spice-250 PGM-derived SAAW EMP-generating standoff PGM; 13)assistance in flight-qualification of DRDO-developed 450kg laser-guided HSLD bomb and integration of the bomb’s FOG-based inertial navigation system with the Rafale’s on-board Sigma-95N RLG-INS through a MIL-STD-1553B interface; 14) modification of the Sigma-95N RLG-INS’ coupled GPS transceiver in order to receive MIL-STD PY-code coordinates from India’s NAVIC/IRNSS constellation of GPS Satellites
There are many other beautiful pics too of goodies that will come with our Rafales
Thread title should be " IAF specific modifications and customisations on Rafale "
Let that Mofo Oscar burn with jealousy
@randomradio
Please post this on PDF especially this juicy part
All the IAF Rafales will feature 14 customer-specific modifications, comprising: 1) integration of the RAFAEL-supplied LITENING target acquisition/designation pod; 2)integration of the RAFAEL-supplied Spice-1000 standoff PGM and its related data-link pod; 3) integration of MBDA-supplied Meteor BVRAAM and ALARM anti-radiation missile; 4)integration of the RAFAEL-supplied X-Guard towed-decoy and development of its on-board location cabinets; 5)upgradation of the SPECTRA EW suite to accommodate low-band, medium-band and high-band directional jammer apertures; 6) integration of the TARGO-2 HMDS supplied by Elbit Systems (also ordered by Qatar); 7)installation of a THALES-supplied traffic collision avoidance system (TCAS); 8) installation of a THALES-supplied standby radar altimeter; 9)Optimisation of the M88 turbofan’s jet-fuel starter for operating in sub-zero temperatures at altitudes above 9,000 feet ASL; 10) increase in the capacity of the on-board OBOGS; 11) addition of weather-mapping mode of operation in the THALES-supplied RBE-2 AESA-MMR; 12) development of quad-pack ejectors for the DRDO-engineered and Spice-250 PGM-derived SAAW EMP-generating standoff PGM; 13)assistance in flight-qualification of DRDO-developed 450kg laser-guided HSLD bomb and integration of the bomb’s FOG-based inertial navigation system with the Rafale’s on-board Sigma-95N RLG-INS through a MIL-STD-1553B interface; 14) modification of the Sigma-95N RLG-INS’ coupled GPS transceiver in order to receive MIL-STD PY-code coordinates from India’s NAVIC/IRNSS constellation of GPS Satellites
There are many other beautiful pics too of goodies that will come with our Rafales
Thread title should be " IAF specific modifications and customisations on Rafale "
Let that Mofo Oscar burn with jealousy
@Aashish return soon pls. Forum is dying w/o u
I didn't change the title, left it as is. But there's a summary explaining the content.
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