India - Pakistan Standoff 2019
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Overhyping as usual, this is where we lose our focus.
I am actually repulsed by us claiming some kind of victory if he has shot down a F-16. That was his job. Not to get shot down too, was his job.
Personal opinion, irrespective of whatever he did, I would have preferred he had not crossed LC as a Wing Commander. He is not a Flying Officer who did not know. Simple as that.
So, you're fine with our policy on the response to Pakistan sponsored terrorism being nebulous to the point of being vague. That was the primary thrust of my post. The outcome of the strikes in terms of the casualties is a by product. It needs to be revealed. Perhaps later. With adequate irrefutable evidence .But if we let ourselves be convinced only by the fact that we've established a precedent with precious nothing to show in terms of results, I've nothing to say. There's always another time. And if we have lost thousands to Pak sponsored terrorism, what does a few score matter. After all we're a nation poor in pretty much everything except human resources. On that front we are and will remain pretty rich. Particularly in reasonably educated unemployed youth A few score dead also opens up plenty of employment opportunities. Let's take the positives from this.
Of course, they will.
There's a larger principle involved. That of taking the nation into confidence. That of combatting enemy propaganda. I'm sorry but in this day and age - Believe me because I say so doesn't hold good.
I was referring to the National Security Doctrine with respect to terrorism and Pakistan specifically here. You conflated it with the Balakote strikes. As if both are state secrets & needs to be kept under lock & key.
The military decides based on the guidelines and framework prescribed by the GoI. The military doesn't have a veto power. The GoI does. I hope we're discussing India here.
Borders were already changed. Hence these wars were waged. I don't think any archival documents pertaining to the Indo Pakistan conflict up to 1971 are pending declassification. 1999 is a different matter. The good ups by the IA & the GoI in the face of intelligence warning of a Kargil takeover is well known & has been extensively documented. Declassified documents would merely corroborate it and shed new light on some hidden aspects. I don't forsee any earth shattering revelation. It's another matter that our victory there effectively buried public interest in that story.
For the record most of the Henderson Brooks report has already been revealed courtesy Neville Maxwell Long ago .It's available online too.
The Himalayan Blunder by Brig Dalvi - a marvellous eye opening first person account echoing most of what the Henderson Brooks report highlighted is also readily available. In spite of being banned for a long time.I didn't see our strategic affairs & relevance compromised there. It's just that the GoI and our services are deliberately obtuse and prefer secrecy in the old school style - ill suited for the information age.They also have much to hide. Which is why we almost never have had joint parliamentary committees looking into our various military operations - successes or failures. When we do, we put in the safe deposit and throw away the key. Because the entire political establishment and the top brass of the military are complicit in it.
Your interpretation. I disagree.
Don't know & not interested. If your sole interest is to score brownie points, I hand the floor over to you.
Brownie points 2.Damned if you don't, damned if you do.
Brownie points 3.
Brownie points 4.
Brownie points 5.
Game set & match Randomradio 5-0.
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Dude, we are talking about twitter post about post in WhatsApp. This is not award from USA govt or any recognised org . It's just silly to even acknowledge a tweet about private WhatsApp message.
What if another member of same group posted praising Pak ? Should we be dhooti shivering ?
Looks like Paaaki propaganda so that Indians in India tell govt not to go after Masood as he is dead.
GOI knows all the info so let's not believe such things!!
Seems that is the general consensus of 'experts' that we got him. But until and unless we can verify it, let us assume otherwise.
Although, Pakistan has already declared him too ill to move
It is something like getting out Sikhar dawan in power play......You may celebrate it.....But then the next guy is virat kohli.....
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As of now Modi Sarkar has gone into election mode. I don't think we'll avenge 27th February attack.
Stop using word Pa ki.....Not allowed here
US seeks info whether Pakistanis deployed F16 against India
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Masood Azhar dead!
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Big Breaking : Maulana Masood Azhar is dead. The Jaish Chief was suffering from liver cancer.@CNNnews18 @manojkumargupta
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Big Breaking : Maulana Masood Azhar is dead. The Jaish Chief was suffering from liver cancer.
Just watch it guys. You will love it. How Indian mig21 killed F-16...
RIP the soldier. He has fought and sacrif
Seems that is the general consensus of 'experts' that we got him. But until and unless we can verify it, let us assume otherwise.
Although, Pakistan has already declared him too ill to move
Maybe they poisoned him
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