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He is definitely reading my posts here :eek: just kidding but this exactly what I have been saying from over 6 months now, that things are going to get better for Pakistan, funding via Saudis is approved to target Iran and exit from Afghanistan.


I feel on similar lines, Congress even with incompetence was able to keep Kashmir issue dead, even when it was by paying Hurriyet and Pakistan, tough in long run it was real bad for India but in short term it made Kashmir issue irrelevant.

On Kashmir day ISPR motivates local news channels to discuss Kashmir, almost every anchor on that had a retired military personnel telling about Kashmir and all that but they were incredibly sad that issue is dead and not picking up heat. They use to conduct interviews of Pakistani public and nobody was showing any interest in Kashmir beside the usual bla bla bla.

But a change occur after BJP came to power and started taking tough tone w.r.t to Pakistan and Kashmir, it may not have changed ground realities but Pakistanis felt disrespected and also a grudge against Modi made Kashmir a topic of debate every other day in Pakistan. Then came Raheel Sharif and he invested a lot in Kashmir by regular speeches, cfv and terrorist attacks. He was able to make Kashmir hot, combined with our own BJP government.

So for Pakistan BJP presented an opportunity to radicalize Kashmiris on lines of Islam and Hindu vs Muslim and make it international topic, thanks to our motor mouth ministers top to bottom they just made it worst and it became headline of everyday. Then we let social media unregulated in Kashmir which helped in creating Burhan Wani, the killing of whom provided a massive propaganda value and most of that propaganda was done by Indians, starting with Barkha Dutt who washed all his sins and then left parties notorious for their love with violence and terrorism kept that issue alive.

Indian express facebook cover pic and endless articles daily on how we are losing Kashmir and how a greatest ever freedom fighter was killed in cold blood and what not. An information war was unleashed on us exaggerating things many many folds and in all this both our government and security agencies did nothing. Only RW trolls tried countering that propaganda on social media, it was spectacular failure.

Snakes were organizing students protests in JNU and other universities to "highlight" imaginary rapes/killings by Indian security forces and our goverment did nothing. When they did tried to crack down another spectacular idiot Rahul Gandhi went to support such anti national activities without even knowing what he is walking into.

Rest is history then, country got divided, manipulated, agitated, always angry, both sides. I was a Pakistan watcher, use to keep a close eye on Pakistan on daily news and what's happening and I saw this in real time, Kashmir, from complete irrelevance frustrating Pakistani military thinkers to Nuclear flash point. Pakistan played her cards very well and we walked right into it most of the time.

Whom to blame? Decide yourself.
BJP's alliance govt with mehbooba who is a known terrorist sympathizer should take most of the blame. The govt on the one hand went hard after the foot soldiers like stone pelters but left their masters at the top like mehbooba untouched. Police were asked to go soft on these stone pelters while CRPF was getting hammered. Mehbooba strategy was simple stoke the foot soldiers create unrest then argue that non-resolution of kashmir issue is the reason behind stone pelting and India should immediately have talks with pakistan.

By the time they changed the police officials much of the damage was already done. Most of the terrorist elements got emboldened and started carrying out activities unchallenged from the state which was seen as indirect support. Burhan wani was just an excuse , they simply need some one to showcase and they got one idiot. Central govt should first ask politicians in kashmir to stop giving advice on foreign affairs or on how to deal with terrorists. People like omar abdullah or mehbooba should be asked to shut up and focus on administrative issues. Unless we dont deal with these ppl like pakistan does in balochistan , we are just making fools out of ourselves.
 
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funny, if Su30 is on Cap & Mig21 is in ORP-1, then who is giving jamming support, as far as I understand, Mig21 was pretty far away for any meaningful jamming support when it went down
Besides your implications were quite certain, that mig21 was the reason why some Aim came flying towards Su30

AIM 120s fired from 40-50 km away as per the IAF statement, as a defensive measure to cover the F-16s which came in for to deliver A2G IMO.

So Su's jammed and stay our side of the LoC, their plan worked but Mig was close to the delivery package and shot one of them.
 
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