India - Pakistan Standoff 2019

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Gautam said:
I konw about the LoC gunfight. I mean about the Ammo dump story, any credible sources ?
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Blood donation camps across Pakistan set up and people are being forced to donate. It only confirms something serious happening. Pak army is being beaten black and blue. And yes BABAint is proving to be more than 75% correct with few trolling posts and is spooking people across the border now...😁😁😂😂
 
Falcon said:
My Bad.

My final post on Aerial Engagement of 27 Feb 2019 for a pretty long time a-la Baba style

"In the fog of war, your AWACS, AEW & C and your platforms have the IFF. Alas, not the missiles flying in the air."

Munch on this one.


@nair @Milspec @Paro @_Anonymous_ @RATHORE @STEPHEN COHEN @screambowl @Grevion @randomradio @ghostwhowalks @sid @Parthu @Ankit Kumar @The Deterrent et al

Out for considerable time :)
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Sorry to ask so late ..

Both Abhinandan & Pak colleague took out same aircraft or each one ?
 
lcafanboy said:
Blood donation camps across Pakistan set up and people are being forced to donate. It only confirms something serious happening. Pak army is being beaten black and blue. And yes BABAint is proving to be more than 75% correct with few trolling posts and is spooking people across the border now...😁😁😂😂
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Dude, I have read these posts on other forums too. I am not entirely sure how much of it should I believe. You're right that Baba was correct most of the time, but at best he was being cryptic and at worst wildly incorrect. He isn't reliable, he is erratic. But given the lack of other sources we have to take what we get. Which is what surprises me, the silence in MSM.
 
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Pakistani unexploded ordinance. Manufacturing date of 1956. Are they really scraping at the bottom of the barrel? Or just finishing of their older stock ?
 
ISI agents has come up with very beautiful answer when asked about those 2 pilots in their custody, their answer is "We don't want to escalate the situation that's why we are not claiming Su-30 kill and those 2 pilots".:confused:"So peace loving creatures they are".:devilish:

So can't they return the body of our "2" pilots when they arranged a festival like situation while sending Abhi back at Attari border to gain some PR ? Then why not deliver the body there ?:unsure:

Our MSM is not asking them this question specifically ?
 
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Pundrick said:
ISI agents has come up with very beautiful answer when asked about those 2 pilots in their custody, their answer is "We don't want to escalate the situation that's why we are not claiming Su-30 kill and those 2 pilots".:confused:"So peace loving creatures they are".:devilish:

So can't they return the body of our "2" pilots when they arranged a festival like situation while sending Abhi back at Attari border to gain some PR ? Then why not deliver the body there ?:unsure:

Our MSM is not asking them this question specifically ?
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DJ ISPR was talking about giving us a surprise. But the kind of surprise we gave him by downing F16, it seems took a toll on his health. That's why these 3 pilots, 2 pilots theory being promoted by DJ saab
 
Without going through the whole thread, are there any informations or pics on the weapons used by PAF in their strikes?
 
Sancho said:
Without going through the whole thread, are there any informations or pics on the weapons used by PAF in their strikes?
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No information on what they used, not even which platform was used, forget about weapons. Interestingly our people want to know every missile deployed by us and how and when they were used.
 
The Deterrent said:
Sadly, when Pakistan claimed the same series of events, some Indians ridiculed the idea. Distortion of facts to justify the narrative can also be witnessed here in this report. While it is reported that Pakistan and India came close to exchanging missile strikes, it is highlighted that India decided to initiate the strike only because ONE pilot was in Pakistani custody. It is not believable, since war calculus accounts for dozens of pilots being lost behind enemy lines.

What possibly happened in my personal opinion, is that the Indian military was given a free hand to go up a rung of the escalation ladder. Since Pakistan had struck in close proximity of IA installations, an escalatory response was required. For this purpose, BrahMos is the ideal weapon since, in addition to its qualities, at the moment Pakistan lacks a proportionate and survivable counterpart of BrahMos. Therefore, Pakistan threatened with the next best thing in its inventory, and communicated the same to India and the international community. Thankfully, the situation was resolved due to presence of open communication lines between both sides and the international community.

In the present hysteria found on both sides of the border, I don't think anyone realizes that Pakistan and India just had an equivalent of the peak moment of the Cuban missile crisis. Maybe a decade or two down the line, military/civilian veterans from both sides will write stories about the night parts of Pakistani and Indian Strategic Forces Commands first heard "This is not a drill.", as part of their orders.
But then, it might be just a figment of my imagination. :)
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No one ridiculed the idea, but the interpretation of it. In your Disney land version India made a threat and Pakistan made a counter threat and India stood down. It is our job to think of every possible scenario before we issue a statement. Including what if Pakistan returns with a missile strike if we decide to carry out one,
 
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