India - Pakistan Standoff 2019

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BlackOpsIndia said:
That I agree that we can try with others but snatching them is impossible, there would be some nuke somewhere hidden and just one use will create a havoc. There are better ways to target it though to render it useless. The Iranian nuclear fuel enrichment program was almost put on pause by Stuxnet and if they created virus more lethal it could have blown the entire complex. That's something that will work because all those nukes are interconnected someway or other, one infection can render all of them useless but that's easier said then done. Will require extreme intelligence on designs and then infecting them is another thing in a very securely guarded facility.
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With the way things are going, I sure hope India and its like minded friends in the West have made some serious contingency plans for either neutralizing or extricating Pak nukes because the situation there is turning worse by the day.

Their economic situation being what it is & increasing dependance on China make things worse.Add to that debt servicing and increased outlay towards the defence with no significant growth in revenues.Further Add to that decreasing foreign currency remittances given the sustained drop in growth in the Gulf states coupled with their own desire to indigenise jobs.


Pakistan has a population of around 60% above 15 years of age & 35% below that. With no investment in industry worth the name, Pakistan being a water scarce country which translates to decrease in agricultural output and jobs & not much remuneration for what they produce, the only ones providing welfare are the jihadi tanzeems.This coupled with a significant drop in literacy levels, health and other socio economic indicators spells disaster in the not so long run.

It won't be long before the chickens come home to roost and the PA along with its major organs find themselves out of their depth to deal with these tanzeems. What happens then? Either way, we'd face the brunt of it.
 
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I wonder quite, how are the rest of the PA taking the appointment of a Qadiani as their CoAS, given that they aren't considered Muslims in the first place in the land of the pure? Ditto for the rest of Pakistan. It also brings up interesting possibilities. What if you theoretically have a Hindu or a Sikh or a Christian CoAS tomorrow? Same for a Zorashtrian Or even a Jew. I realize that being in the West for Long has shaped your views and made them egalitarian @safriz . So much so that you won't mind a Jew as your CoAS too, if you find a suitable candidate and he promises you Kashmir. The former is a tad unlikely but the latter is knowing how canny Jews are especially when it comes to gullible Pakistanis. Note Balakote ( damn, that rhymed) & the Israeli connection.

The Israeli Connection

Perhaps you'd like to venture in with your views @Nilgiri , given you're a veteran in PDF and an avid observer of human social behaviour especially the Pakistanis ( Though I share your views that nouns & adjectives like human and social don't sit well with Pakistanis and we'd have to make do with standard nomenclature till better alternatives are found but, I trust you get my larger point)
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This is actually one of the sensitive spots to prod in PDF and scoot and watch 2+ sides go at each other internally....till mods inevitable step in.

In the end its all boils down to identity complex....it is quite brittle in Pakistan's case (compared to world average).
 
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nair said:
Read carefully...... He is trying to give away something.....
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Believe him or not, Baba has given endless sleepless nights to Pakistanis and is continuing to do so. The quality of info he's serving is too high for a commoner to know. The way he quotes appropriate arms and ammo used in the field is spot on.

I think he's Doval's man on SM playing Counter Int games with Pindi propaganda machines.
 
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Believe him or not, Baba has given endless sleepless nights to Pakistanis and is continuing to do so. The quality of info he's serving is too high for a commoner to know. The way he quotes appropriate arms and ammo used in the field is spot on.

I think he's Doval's man on SM playing Counter Int games with Pindi propaganda machines.
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That is right , otherwise GOI would have
Shut down his account
 
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lcafanboy said:
What happened at Multan airport? Chinese duplicate air defence system shot down another Chinese duplicate fighter? 🤔🤔
First equip PAF with proper fighter planes.😁😁😂😂
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Nothing happened, only Indian wet dreams.
People living in Multan heard no explosions while Natthu lal of mambai were tweeting about explosions in multan out of their imagination.
 
Rumour is our AWACS jammed IFF of their jf-17s.Multan's air defence system was unable to identify their aircraft,and in over enthusiasm/panic shot down approaching jf-17 aircraft.
 
safriz said:
Nothing happened, only Indian wet dreams.
People living in Multan heard no explosions while Natthu lal of mambai were tweeting about explosions in multan out of their imagination.
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Oh? And fire brigade etc were called for nothing? NOTAM was to celebrate birth of next sion of Sharif Family?

Meanwhile, you are yet to explain how did PAF manage to make length and width of R-73 and R-77 same?
 
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Rumour is our AWACS jammed IFF of their jf-17s.Multan's air defence system was unable to identify their aircraft,and in over enthusiasm/panic shot down approaching jf-17 aircraft.
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I reckon a Pakistani would take the positives from this incident. At least, the Chinese IFF transponder and the Chinese AD systems work. Besides which Pakistani worth his salt would prefer losing an AC to the IAF. They'd prefer losing it any day anytime to the TTP or the Chinese or themselves as in this case. All in all its a win win situation. Isn't it? @safriz
 
safriz said:
I already posted one side of this document. Here is the other side.
Just look at how much equipment is expired.
It was recovered from Abhinandan of 51 Squadron.
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Well, it's twice the shame for you. In spite of being in an antiquated AC he shoots the pride of your PAF. To add insult to injury, instead of castrating him, which is your wont, you give him jamai treatment and escort him to the Indian side within 48 hours. Do you realise the impact this has had on our IAF pilots flying the MiG 21 bis? The next time there's another dogfight a la 27 th Feb, you can expect a whole host of these MiG 21 bis pilots clamouring to chase your F-16's across the LoC and shooting it down without any fear of their own safety. Like I said earlier, you guys set another precedent on the 27th Feb with your treatment of Wing Co Abhinandan.
 
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