I'd understand Pak clamming up shut about it, but I'm referring to our media. Why haven't they picked it up and talked about it yet?
I get the feeling the govt's asked them to keep quiet about it. I hope they reveal it after elections.
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I'd understand Pak clamming up shut about it, but I'm referring to our media. Why haven't they picked it up and talked about it yet?
I get the feeling the govt's asked them to keep quiet about it. I hope they reveal it after elections.
Indian western Air space still closed for all flights,
while Pakistan Eastern airspace now open for all flights except the flights to India.
Phir Chilam phoonk lee kya?
It is not! What is closed is Pakistan's airspace. And Pakistan is losing money because of that. Heck PKR is falling faster than piece of rock.
@Falcon
Remember quite a while back you said in response to a comment or post of mine, that enough doubts had been created about our edge in the air over Pakistan (I believe you said this some time after the dogfight) ? What was that about, and is that cause enough for us to revisit our earlier beliefs about the gap between the two Air Forces and the timeline you had given for achieving full air superiority over Pakistan in the case of a full blown war at maximum operational tempo?
Remember quite a while back you said in response to a comment or post of mine, that enough doubts had been created about our edge in the air over Pakistan (I believe you said this some time after the dogfight) ? What was that about, and is that cause enough for us to revisit our earlier beliefs about the gap between the two Air Forces and the timeline you had given for achieving full air superiority over Pakistan in the case of a full blown war at maximum operational tempo?
I was wondering about this for a while too, but even the Gvt basically ignored those 2 spots and kept talking about Balakot and numbers.
Do you think I was not hurt with those visuals. I mourned from heart for our fallen brothers and their families. But at least this govt unlike CONgress made them pay hundred times what we suffered and showed them their nuclear blackmail won't work now and in future. And while we spank them no one in the world points fingers at India, in fact entire world is enjoying the show except for China which too is getting message don't mess with India.
Folks, I think IAF is doing the right thing IMHO. As @Falcon said, there is indeed a rhyme and a reason behind India's handling of the 'situation'. That is to gain enough tactical advantage that Pakistan cannot repeat Pulwama.
Also remember, wars are not for public consumption of entertainment.
This song was a satire...
If you go by the other forum yes.... IAF says that they shot down a F16 and has been confirmed by multiple sources.... In what way the morale is down? It is not about scoring big....It is about the role you play for the overall battle plan......And beleieve me this is an ongoing operation.......
On other two locations than Balakot I asked Falcon and he said Mum is the word.
Now read his posts even before the strikes where he said a strike with deniability for Pakistan so as not to make it to war or departure of Imran by Bajwa as civilians will weigh in consequences before taking decisions or atleast protest but military generals family and assets are outside and they will not hesitate to burn Pakistan down for own ego like they are doing right after the independence.
Balakot could be diversion where bombs "kissed" the madrasa while real action happened at other places or it could be the main location and details are still not released. Madarsa contains kids too maybe to avoid them as collateral striking capability was demonstrated however in at other targets of launch pads and camps POK in Muzafarabad and Chakothi the real damage was done as acknowledged by ISPR first and when they found some denial is available they grabbed it exactly like surgical strike where we didn't release videos immediately, GoI thought to play along however next day raids did spoil any understanding.
Please note that whenever you conduct any such cross border raid or operation you inform the major countries and the adversary too. During these exchanges modalities of how to play it for domestic audience and avoid going to war is advised and GoI take them into consideration.
Let's wait and see what actually happened, this could be a probable scenario.
Now read his posts even before the strikes where he said a strike with deniability for Pakistan so as not to make it to war or departure of Imran by Bajwa as civilians will weigh in consequences before taking decisions or atleast protest but military generals family and assets are outside and they will not hesitate to burn Pakistan down for own ego like they are doing right after the independence.
Balakot could be diversion where bombs "kissed" the madrasa while real action happened at other places or it could be the main location and details are still not released. Madarsa contains kids too maybe to avoid them as collateral striking capability was demonstrated however in at other targets of launch pads and camps POK in Muzafarabad and Chakothi the real damage was done as acknowledged by ISPR first and when they found some denial is available they grabbed it exactly like surgical strike where we didn't release videos immediately, GoI thought to play along however next day raids did spoil any understanding.
Please note that whenever you conduct any such cross border raid or operation you inform the major countries and the adversary too. During these exchanges modalities of how to play it for domestic audience and avoid going to war is advised and GoI take them into consideration.
Let's wait and see what actually happened, this could be a probable scenario.
This part is completely wrong. Aircraft have least RCS in front and much higher RCS at rear. The BVR shot is best taken when the airvcraft is in Ingress to allow for a farthrest engagement point with lots of enegy in the missile.
@safriz, India dies not have air routes over Rajasthan in that area for domestic flights. Flights there used to only overflying Internationla flights entering or exiting India thru Pakistan. Your airspace is closed so there are no international flights in that area. I have nearly 15 yrs of flying exp in that area so please do not try and teach me at least.
Seriously are you really a veteran of Pakistan? For closure of Airspace a NOTAM is issued where is that NOTAM? without NOTAM no air space is considered closed.
Now coming to informal closure with understanding of all airlines (some secret deal) since charsis are more interested in these secret conspiracy theories it will still require cancellation of flights to any western airport no? Or closing down of airport, can you list a single airport that is closed down? Flights are reaching daily up to Amritsar, few KM from Pakistan.
If you think logically (assuming you are capable) planes take shortest possibly route and just a little look at that map will tell you they are doing exactly that from Mumbai to other parts. Unless you think they will take a detour to Pakistan border, traveling few hundred KM and wasting millions and an hour or two to make some forum troll feel better you are grossly overestimating your value.
Till the time you come up with NOTAM or closed airport avoid derailing the thread with your Pakistani IQ posts.
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@Falcon
Sir do you think IAF is Satisfied with its Role , Efforts and Contribution , in the Present Stand off
As we have seen and heard
Army is always keen on Moral Ascendancy
Over the enemy
They are right now doing everything to
Establish its complete dominance over the enemy
Navy has cornered the Pak Navy like a Cat does to a rat
Doesn't this Moral Ascendancy concept apply to Air forces
@Falcon
Sir do you think IAF is Satisfied with its Role , Efforts and Contribution , in the Present Stand off
As we have seen and heard
Army is always keen on Moral Ascendancy
Over the enemy
They are right now doing everything to
Establish its complete dominance over the enemy
Navy has cornered the Pak Navy like a Cat does to a rat
Doesn't this Moral Ascendancy concept apply to Air forces
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Pakistan's drone spotted in Punjab’s Khemkaran sector, blackout ordered, internet services shut
its not over yet
Edited by: India TV News Desk
New DelhiUpdated on: April 04, 2019 8:36 IST
In Punjab’s Khemkaran sector, a Pakistan's drone was spotted by Indian Army. After detecting it, the security personnel fired at it.
A blackout was ordered in the entire village and internet services temporarily stopped. There is no confirmation about whether the drone is shot down or not.
On Monday, the Indian Air Force (IAF) scrambled two Sukhoi-30 fighter jets after sighting a Pakistani drone along the Indo-Pak border in the Khemkaran sector, official sources said.
After the incident, two Pakistani F-16 fighter aircraft were also seen close to the border.
The sources said the Sukhoi-30 MKI jets were deployed soon after the Pakistani unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) was seen hovering over the border, reported PTI.
its not over yet
Edited by: India TV News Desk
New DelhiUpdated on: April 04, 2019 8:36 IST
In Punjab’s Khemkaran sector, a Pakistan's drone was spotted by Indian Army. After detecting it, the security personnel fired at it.
A blackout was ordered in the entire village and internet services temporarily stopped. There is no confirmation about whether the drone is shot down or not.
On Monday, the Indian Air Force (IAF) scrambled two Sukhoi-30 fighter jets after sighting a Pakistani drone along the Indo-Pak border in the Khemkaran sector, official sources said.
After the incident, two Pakistani F-16 fighter aircraft were also seen close to the border.
The sources said the Sukhoi-30 MKI jets were deployed soon after the Pakistani unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) was seen hovering over the border, reported PTI.
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