India - Pakistan Standoff 2019
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You might be sceptical
But I am sure that we have hurt them
Much more than Balakot
And though they tried to escalate but our
Reaponse stunned them
I am strictly talking of Army action along LoC and Jammu sector
Now 5 th / 6 th March is not known
But Pakistani Hesitation to Escalate is Surprising
And it cannot be Economic Reasons alone
Realistic I prefer.
You wish, and that's confirmation bias.
I wish that too.
Would love to hear what they tried and what wonderful we did to stun them.
Trust me, the day borders see any credible confrontation beyond ceasefire violations, Modi will not be spending time in Varanasi.
Why not? Lets make any story and tweet.
Yep, they retaliated in broad day light but now surprisingly hesitating to some imaginary fight happening on LoC.
Perhaps they turned peaceful or we suddenly become the superpower.
What this mean? They attacked by mistake (confirmed by joint inquiry) and then compensated for US loses.
And are we talking of 1960's?
It's irrelevant to what's being discussed here. Speculations abound that fed up of US snooping around the Israeli authorities decided to resort to drastic action and then couch it with an apology followed by compensation. The truth would never be known. Assuming that the Israelis deliberately undertook such a mission, it'd be in keeping with their policy of survival at any cost and not trusting even their closest ally and friend with state secrets.
You can hardly expect them to cross the US on our behalf. They're here to study the electronic intelligence and plug in any loopholes in their tactics while deploying the F-16. Let's not forget that more than Singapore, we owe our deep knowledge of the F-16 to Israel and courtesy the unpublicised frequent training and joint exercises our AF conducts with theirs.
I can modestly claim to know Pakistani psyche very well
This peaceful behaviour of Pak Army is
Not without any strong and solid reason
Pakistanis are a People who CANNOT be
Reasoned With or Made to Feel Guilty
They only Respond to Force and Strength
Some " Things " have happened that has Totally Destroyed the Pakistani "Will "
To Fight
Sir, even in open source it is possible
Just requires the right software and a bit of know how...
Sir, even in open source it is possible
True.
Let me know what you find while looking around
Please recollect, 02 x Indian Army Armoured Divisions were 'there' in Rajasthan where no tanks were actually present..
With all the gizmos and Electronic surveillance devices that US and allies had. And I am talking of 2002, when we were very rudimentary in our capabilities and they, 100x superior.
Each armored division is 400 + tanks
Rest assured sir, you will always be aware of what and where I am looking and whatever I find.True.
Let me know what you find while looking around
Ofcourse! Simplest way to hide is to be 'open' when nothing is above you or ... to be 'open' when sun does not shine... Its surprising how much current RS still uses sun for. Ofcourse, there are ways to detect things in night.
Lastly, buildings do not move. Tanks and troops do. Thats a big advantage for detecting changes in buildings.
It's more down to a simple study of human psyche. Take a school bully. As long as the bully keeps getting away with bullying, he'd be at it. The moment he's busted, he'd cease activities. As far as their economy goes, come what may, the Armed forces will never be starved of funds irrespective of the state of the nation. LIC as has been going on in Kashmir will continue. Perhaps, for the interim on a low key basis. The rest of the argument, we've been having is on the costs we can impose on them vis a vis sustained action on the border and taking advantage of their pain points in Balochistan, etc. In the event, we've done what we've done before. De escalated on the border and scratched our balls w.r.t their pain points. So, in a few months it'd be biz as usual. Don't be surprised, if there's a surprise meet between Modi ( assuming he'd be re elected) & Reham Khan's ex at the SCO, etc. After all we're more desperate for peace. Pakistan is merely obliging us. That's the overlying sentiment in our foreign policy establishment & of course Congress & the Lutyens mafia.
There are ways of obfuscating stuff. Stationary ones too. Been doing it. With UAVs overhead
Anyways, lets move on.
I concur.There are ways of obfuscating stuff. Stationary ones too. Been doing it. With UAVs overhead
Did we not transfer a GOC overnight for taking his tanks very close to the Border that time in 2002?
Sir.
May 24 2002, was date given for commencement of hostilities, if I recall correctly (you may recall it). Last minute revision, orders did not come through I believe and he moved as per plan to his designated location before commencement. And village kids had removed the markers in night movement, hence everything moved dangerously close to IB and he was sacked.
The markers had been placed by Recce group to move some distance away from border, not towards it.
No idea how accurate this version of incident is. Date, is +/- 3 days accurate
But this was Corps commander and the one I am talking of - the fictitious armoured division when ours were nowhere in region is another one when we pulled a fast one on US and allies who 'advised' Pakistan to scale back immediately.
If I remember correctly the movement was made opposite Rahimyar Khan.
In 2002 , We had to Bend before US pressure
Americans were in Afghanistan and they
Needed Pakistani help
So Pakistan asked US to put pressure on India to pull back
American Intetests came before Indian interests
Without Vajpayee , India would never have been a Nuclear power
And after 9 / 11 , it was Impossible to do Nuclear Tests
And after 9 / 11 , it was Impossible to do Nuclear Tests
When we did not strike back publicly after the 2002 Kaluchak incident, I lost all affiliation for Vajpayee
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