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Ghafoora is playing game.
He is blaming RAW and NDS for the protest in KPK.
He is saying they have traced the money back to Indian consulates in Af.
damn!!!
They are unable to (read unwilling to..More likely due to incompetence than will) figure out a way to trace local monies, and Ghafoora claims they traced a trail to a consulate!!

Looks like a hail Mary attempt to escape Fatf blacklisting by playing the holier than thou victim card angle.
 
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DGISPR Ghafoor admits that he is a goofer

DG ISPR Ghafoor admits Initial claim of ” Two Indian Pilots ” in custody was error on his part – Indian Defence Research Wing

In reality they are playing a different game.
What they are doing is they are trying to show that they are speaking the truth by accepting some facts and rejecting the others, to give an authentication to their version. This dice is not for them but for Indian media and world. This is their old tactic.
The way he did the PC is evidence of their psywar.

They are unable to (read unwilling to..More likely due to incompetence than will) figure out a way to trace local monies, and Ghafoora claims they traced a trail to a consulate!!

Looks like a hail Mary attempt to escape Fatf blacklisting by playing the holier than thou victim card angle.

I won't be surprized if they have our traills. In this game they know who is there and we know who is here. The only thing is they shoudln't know what we are upto ;) so you have to sometimes fool them with fake trails :D
 
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Pakistan says it is on the road to major change, but few are fully persuaded
Martin Howell

7 MIN READ

ISLAMABAD (Reuters)

Something very significant is under way in Pakistan, the government in Islamabad would like you to believe.

A small group of foreign journalists, Reuters correspondents included, was given Pakistan’s new narrative by Prime Minister Imran Khan, its army chief General Qamar Javed Bajwa, and other top government officials and generals during a visit to the country earlier this month.

Some of the comments of the officials were for publication, others were not, but the message remained consistent.

In summary, Pakistan says it is tired of conflict, opposed to extremism, open for peace talks and clamping down on corruption. It also insists it is run by politicians, with the military partnering rather than dominating.

That all sounds good. There is just one problem – around much of the world many with a close understanding of the situation remain highly skeptical.

In New Delhi, the view even beyond the more hawkish elements in Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government is that the world has seen and heard these kinds of promises before, only for Pakistan-backed Islamist groups to attack India. That is just what India says happened on Feb. 14, when a suicide bombing killed 40 paramilitary police in India-controlled Kashmir and brought the two nuclear powers close to war.

This was underlined by comments to Reuters from Indian foreign ministry spokesman Raveesh Kumar for this article.

“Pakistan should take immediate, credible, irreversible and verifiable action against terrorists and terror organizations operating from territories under its control,” he said.

“Pakistan follows an identical script after every terror attack in India where ‘action’ is taken to deflect the international pressure before returning to the normal situation of providing support and sanctuary to terror groups in the territories under their control.”

Certainly, Pakistan’s positive talk has no chance of resonating in India while Modi’s ruling Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party continues to stir up patriotic fervor during the nation’s 39-day general election, which ends May 19. Votes are counted May 23.

NEEDING FRIENDS

Islamabad urgently needs friends.

Pakistani officials say India has been lobbying to get it put on the blacklist of the Financial Action Task Force, which monitors whether countries are doing enough to prevent money laundering and terrorism financing. If that happened it could lead to sanctions, cripple Pakistan’s banking relations and badly hurt its trade.

The country is also close to securing its 13th bailout by the International Monetary Fund since the 1980s as it tries to tackle large budget and current account deficits, and faces a soaring inflation rate triggered by high oil prices and a weak Pakistani rupee.

But Pakistani officials claim the changes they are talking about are much more than a cosmetic makeover to head off the IMF.

Khan’s government says it is suing for peace on all fronts.

In Afghanistan, Islamabad has been key in getting the Taliban around the table for talks with the Americans.

And Khan, in the face of rising tensions following bloody attacks by militant groups, visited Tehran and agreed last week to set up a joint rapid reaction force for the border area with Iran.

Since taking office in August, Khan has also consistently offered talks with Modi, and Pakistani officials are hopeful that the Indian leader will eventually say yes if he wins a second term in office.

NORTHERN IRELAND LESSONS

The Pakistan authorities insist they are cracking down on armed militant groups on its soil, saying extremism is the biggest threat it faces. Officials talk of a Northern Ireland-style peace and disarmament process, plus state regulation of the 32,000 madrasas, or Islamic schools, in the country that can easily become breeding grounds for militants.

“For the future of the country - forget outside pressure - we will not allow armed militias to operate,” Khan told the journalists. And the government has “the total support of the Pakistani army and intelligence services in dismantling them”, he added.

Slideshow (2 Images)

Not only that, but its military chiefs insist they report to the prime minister - rather than the other way around as is often assumed by foreign diplomats and the media.

The military chiefs say they want to bring 100 million Pakistanis out of grinding poverty, and that engineering a big increase in spending on education is critical to that.

During the trip, the journalists were taken to an impressively modern-looking army school complex and, separately, a rehabilitation center for teenagers showing militant tendencies. Those were both in the Swat Valley, which was overrun by the Taliban and other militant groups only 11 years ago.

The image of unity, though, was shaken only a few days after the trip when Khan announced a major reshuffle of his cabinet, including the replacement of his finance minister Asad Umar, who had been at the helm of the IMF talks, and the appointment of retired Brigadier Ijaz Shah as Pakistan’s new interior minister. Shah, a former spy chief and close ally of the country’s last military ruler, has long been accused of deep ties to militant groups.

Given such moves, it isn’t difficult to find specialists in Pakistan policy who still believe that the army pulls the strings. A senior security source in Pakistan told Reuters the government was taking “no serious action” against anti-India militant groups.

“The cabinet shuffle in Pakistan is a setback for the image of ‘new’ Pakistan,” said TCA Raghavan, who was India’s high commissioner in Pakistan in 2013-2015. “It shows an inability to carry even the cabinet along on the economy.”

He also said the appointment of Shah was a setback for any reset. “Poachers don’t turn gamekeepers easily,” he said.

Shah’s office did not respond to a request for comment, but in an interview with the BBC after his appointment he said he was a civilian politician who retired from the army a long time ago.

One other ministerial change was the moving of information minister Fawad Chaudhry to the less high-profile post of science and technology minister.

It was Chaudhry who had been the journalists’ main guide for the visit.

So, if it really is transforming, Pakistan clearly has a lot of convincing still to do. One trip for foreign journalists is only a start.

Reporting by Martin Howell; Additional reporting by Saad Sayeed and Drazen Jorgic; Editing by Alex Richardson

Pakistan says it is on the road to major change, but few are fully persuaded - Reuters
 
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Pakistan says it is on the road to major change, but few are fully persuaded
Martin Howell

7 MIN READ

ISLAMABAD (Reuters)

Something very significant is under way in Pakistan, the government in Islamabad would like you to believe.

A small group of foreign journalists, Reuters correspondents included, was given Pakistan’s new narrative by Prime Minister Imran Khan, its army chief General Qamar Javed Bajwa, and other top government officials and generals during a visit to the country earlier this month.

Some of the comments of the officials were for publication, others were not, but the message remained consistent.

In summary, Pakistan says it is tired of conflict, opposed to extremism, open for peace talks and clamping down on corruption. It also insists it is run by politicians, with the military partnering rather than dominating.

That all sounds good. There is just one problem – around much of the world many with a close understanding of the situation remain highly skeptical.

In New Delhi, the view even beyond the more hawkish elements in Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government is that the world has seen and heard these kinds of promises before, only for Pakistan-backed Islamist groups to attack India. That is just what India says happened on Feb. 14, when a suicide bombing killed 40 paramilitary police in India-controlled Kashmir and brought the two nuclear powers close to war.

This was underlined by comments to Reuters from Indian foreign ministry spokesman Raveesh Kumar for this article.

“Pakistan should take immediate, credible, irreversible and verifiable action against terrorists and terror organizations operating from territories under its control,” he said.

“Pakistan follows an identical script after every terror attack in India where ‘action’ is taken to deflect the international pressure before returning to the normal situation of providing support and sanctuary to terror groups in the territories under their control.”

Certainly, Pakistan’s positive talk has no chance of resonating in India while Modi’s ruling Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party continues to stir up patriotic fervor during the nation’s 39-day general election, which ends May 19. Votes are counted May 23.

NEEDING FRIENDS

Islamabad urgently needs friends.

Pakistani officials say India has been lobbying to get it put on the blacklist of the Financial Action Task Force, which monitors whether countries are doing enough to prevent money laundering and terrorism financing. If that happened it could lead to sanctions, cripple Pakistan’s banking relations and badly hurt its trade.

The country is also close to securing its 13th bailout by the International Monetary Fund since the 1980s as it tries to tackle large budget and current account deficits, and faces a soaring inflation rate triggered by high oil prices and a weak Pakistani rupee.

But Pakistani officials claim the changes they are talking about are much more than a cosmetic makeover to head off the IMF.

Khan’s government says it is suing for peace on all fronts.

In Afghanistan, Islamabad has been key in getting the Taliban around the table for talks with the Americans.

And Khan, in the face of rising tensions following bloody attacks by militant groups, visited Tehran and agreed last week to set up a joint rapid reaction force for the border area with Iran.

Since taking office in August, Khan has also consistently offered talks with Modi, and Pakistani officials are hopeful that the Indian leader will eventually say yes if he wins a second term in office.

NORTHERN IRELAND LESSONS

The Pakistan authorities insist they are cracking down on armed militant groups on its soil, saying extremism is the biggest threat it faces. Officials talk of a Northern Ireland-style peace and disarmament process, plus state regulation of the 32,000 madrasas, or Islamic schools, in the country that can easily become breeding grounds for militants.

“For the future of the country - forget outside pressure - we will not allow armed militias to operate,” Khan told the journalists. And the government has “the total support of the Pakistani army and intelligence services in dismantling them”, he added.

Slideshow (2 Images)

Not only that, but its military chiefs insist they report to the prime minister - rather than the other way around as is often assumed by foreign diplomats and the media.

The military chiefs say they want to bring 100 million Pakistanis out of grinding poverty, and that engineering a big increase in spending on education is critical to that.

During the trip, the journalists were taken to an impressively modern-looking army school complex and, separately, a rehabilitation center for teenagers showing militant tendencies. Those were both in the Swat Valley, which was overrun by the Taliban and other militant groups only 11 years ago.

The image of unity, though, was shaken only a few days after the trip when Khan announced a major reshuffle of his cabinet, including the replacement of his finance minister Asad Umar, who had been at the helm of the IMF talks, and the appointment of retired Brigadier Ijaz Shah as Pakistan’s new interior minister. Shah, a former spy chief and close ally of the country’s last military ruler, has long been accused of deep ties to militant groups.

Given such moves, it isn’t difficult to find specialists in Pakistan policy who still believe that the army pulls the strings. A senior security source in Pakistan told Reuters the government was taking “no serious action” against anti-India militant groups.

“The cabinet shuffle in Pakistan is a setback for the image of ‘new’ Pakistan,” said TCA Raghavan, who was India’s high commissioner in Pakistan in 2013-2015. “It shows an inability to carry even the cabinet along on the economy.”

He also said the appointment of Shah was a setback for any reset. “Poachers don’t turn gamekeepers easily,” he said.

Shah’s office did not respond to a request for comment, but in an interview with the BBC after his appointment he said he was a civilian politician who retired from the army a long time ago.

One other ministerial change was the moving of information minister Fawad Chaudhry to the less high-profile post of science and technology minister.

It was Chaudhry who had been the journalists’ main guide for the visit.

So, if it really is transforming, Pakistan clearly has a lot of convincing still to do. One trip for foreign journalists is only a start.

Reporting by Martin Howell; Additional reporting by Saad Sayeed and Drazen Jorgic; Editing by Alex Richardson

Pakistan says it is on the road to major change, but few are fully persuaded - Reuters

Kutte ki poonch 72 saal nali mein daal ke rakho, phir bhi tedi ki tedi rahati hai.

The only way to straighten is to chop it off.
 
DRDO missile was the 1st choice, not Spice-2000

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Published Apr 30, 2019, 12:59 am IST

Hyderabad: The day after the Pulwama attack, the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) received directions from the highest authorities to prepare to strike back to avenge the deadly terror strike in the Kashmir valley.

Officials from the National Security Agency, Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), the three serving chiefs of the Indian forces, DRDO scientists and other stakeholders met the following day in a high-level security meeting in which it was decided in principle that the Smart Anti-Airfield Weapon (SAAW), developed indigenously by DRDO, be used in retaliation.
DRDO scientists began working on assembling the SAAW to the mother aircraft, the French-origin Mirage 2000 jets that were used in the Balakot attack, according to the IAF. The weapon was specially made to hit the target with a high level of accuracy.


A few days before the operation, the DRDO’s SAAW was dropped and instead the Spice-2000 manufactured by the Israeli defence technology company Rafael, was used.

“Scientists at DRDO over two weeks began assembling the SAAW. The smart guide bomb that was assembled was relatively smaller (in size) when compared to the Israeli Spice-2000, if used it has the capability of escaping the enemy’s radar. With high accuracy, it has been developed with an equal class of up to 1000 kg. However, SAAW was replaced by Spice-2000,” said an insider.

The SAAW weapon successfully completed tactical tests with a high degree of accuracy.

The guided bomb (SAAW) is integrated with a live warhead and has destroyed targets with a high degree of precision in tests conducted at the Chandan range

Source: DRDO missile was the 1st choice, not Spice-2000
 
This masood achar listing or non listing is just a diplomatic side issue (and a marginal one at that). The greater play here (and I'd like to believe it's the smart play) is to give the US an opportunity to squeeze China and project it's power. Masood or azhar or abdul or zaid Hamed are just pawns on the chess board. They can be taken out (if not already done) via another pre-emptive strike. Who knows, this masood dude is in jannat already, it's in Pakistani interest (not to mention their fitrat to deny casualties) to claim he's alive, and in Iron brother's interest to support that claim, hence the so called technical block. Game of thrones playing out in the subcontinent. Maybe we will see some new dragons (born outside China) breathing fire

The Pakistani twitterati trolls have nothing better to do than toe the ispr narrative, that too on the limited mobile data they get, given the recent hiking of package prices. There appears to be a wave of retaliation and unrest among the awam because of that!!
 
So a diplomatic victory by "strong sarkar" after number of attacks, including the last one which killed 40 soldiers and after 3 months and lot of "jee huzuri" of China we will finally see him listed as global terrorist.

Azhar can now create his own political party, get special protection, incite violence in Kashmir, abuse India after every Friday prayers.

Quite an achievement I must say, totally worth wasting all the diplomatic capital. What's next? Announce some big bounty on his head? Better if we buy some weapons at inflated prices and US can announce bounty on his head, will be more credible.

Azhar, you just increased your position in Jihadis and now equivalent to Hafeez Saed, can have your own propaganda publication telling how terrorized is whole world from a tiny little *censored*.

Hafiz inspired next crop of Jihadis, and Azhar matched the status, how many will Azhar inspire and who is the next terrorist that will blow up 50 of our Jawans so that we can play this UN Listing- UN Listing again? Sayed Salahuddin?

Hats off to strong government we learn about in every rally, what a blow to terrorist infrastructure, total annhilation, ghar mai ghus ghus k listing ki, Great Job.
 
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PAF response to Indian aggression will be remembered as Operation Swift Retort: air chief - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Hahahaha. Operation Swift Retort -

Objectives :
  • Attack Indian Army Brigade HQ
  • Bomb Ammo Dump
  • Kill at least one Su30

Weapons used:
  • Denel H4 SOW
  • AMRAAM
  • Others (not disclosed)

Platforms used:

Entire PAF was airborne as per ISPR so everything at disposal from Air defense to fighters to AWACS were used.​

End Result:
  • All 11 Denel H4 missed the target.
  • All 5 AMRAAM missed the target.
  • 1 IAF Mig21 shot down, Pilot repatriated in 48 hours.
  • 1 PAF F16 shot down.
  • 1 PAF F16 Pilot killed, status of another unknown, death still unacknowledged.

इति श्री ऑपरेशन स्विफ्ट रेटोर्टय नमः

Some operation it was, open for anyone to see the glaring success.
 
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PAF response to Indian aggression will be remembered as Operation Swift Retort: air chief - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Hahahaha. Operation Swift Retort -

Objectives :
  • Attack Indian Army Brigade HQ
  • Bomb Ammo Dump
  • Kill at least one Su30

Weapons used:
  • Denel H4 SOW
  • AMRAAM
  • Others (not disclosed)

Platforms used:

Entire PAF was airborne as per ISPR so everything at disposal from Air defense to fighters to AWACS were used.​

End Result:
  • All 11 Denel H4 missed the target.
  • All 5 AMRAAM missed the target.
  • 1 IAF Mig21 shot down.
  • 1 PAF F16 shot down.

इति श्री ऑपरेशन स्विफ्ट रेटोर्टय नमः

Some operation it was, open for anyone to see the glaring success.


Can H4 be fired from F-16?

As per the IAF radar images, there were 4 F-16s at south engaging 2 MKIs, 4 JF 17 engaging 2 Mirages at north. 4 F-16s were waiting for ambush at the middle. I think one of them ingressed and try to bomb our positions, later shot down by Abhi.
 
“ The smart guide bomb that was assembled was relatively smaller (in size) when compared to the Israeli Spice-2000, if used it has the capability of escaping the enemy’s radar. With high accuracy, it has been developed with an equal class of up to 1000 kg. However, SAAW was replaced by Spice-2000,” said an insider.
The SAAW weapon successfully completed tactical tests with a high degree of accuracy.
The guided bomb (SAAW) is integrated with a live warhead and has destroyed targets with a high degree of precision in tests conducted at the Chandan range


Source: DRDO missile was the 1st choice, not Spice-2000


Irrelevant boasting if SAAW was not used in actual battlefield.
 
Irrelevant boastingif SAAW was not used in actual battlefield
Yes, Saaw was never used in actual battlefield, only 17 successful trials have taken place so far.
But very wrong in your claim its boasting.. How can it be boasting?? if something else was used in a later date.
Could DRDO have rigged it for 18th test in be successfully delivered across border? Why not, it has a history of success, backing it trials.
Is it ready in its final version to be mass produced & deployed by Airforce, not yet, but don't see why not by 2020. Its doing great so far.
And @Falcon says, your claims generally don't add up, all I see is snowflakes.
 
So Masood Azhar is blacklisted now; but what about the other big terrorists walking around freely in Pakistan? And now that Azhar is officially blacklisted, what exactly are we going to do...?

Hope this wasn't the endgame...
 
Yes, Saaw was never used in actual battlefield, only 17 successful trials have taken place so far.
But very wrong in your claim its boasting.. How can it be boasting?? if something else was used in a later date.
Could DRDO have rigged it for 18th test in be successfully delivered across border? Why not, it has a history of success, backing it trials.
Is it ready in its final version to be mass produced & deployed by Airforce, not yet, but don't see why not by 2020. Its doing great so far.
And @Falcon says, your claims generally don't add up, all I see is snowflakes.

the thing which did the job well should be praised.
Not something which did nothing.

This is normal sense.
 
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