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Modi Accepts Pak PM's Congratulations, Doesn't Extend Invite to Swearing-in Ceremony

"Internally, the government is expected to pay attention to fresh elections to the J&K assembly later this year and will, on a political level, continue to take a stand against Article 35 which allows J&K to frame residency laws. BJP sees it as discriminatory but Valley parties NC and PDP stoutly defend it.

There is a lot of speculation about Modi inviting foreign leaders again for his swearing in ceremony on May 30. But the readout of the Modi-Khan conversation made it clear that no such invitation was made to Khan. Pakistan has featured in the election campaign, with Modi’s decision to retaliate militarily against a terror attack finding huge resonance among the people, cementing his profile as a man of action, particularly against Pakistan-sponsored terror."

Imran Khan: Trust, terror-free atmosphere vital for peace, Modi to Imran | India News - Times of India
 


The same non sense being peddled by certain people who are trying to be credible thereby lending credence to Pakistani Fanboy posts.

Anyone who knows how Army Commanders, Corps Commanders and GOCs move to forward locations, will be laughing their heads off reading this non-sense. Merely an attempt to drag forces to a level where every day they have to defend some absurd claim against them.

It is like Sameer Joshi, an ex-IAF pilot claiming no AWACS on station on 27 Feb 2019.

Welcome to the world where the idiot rules.
 
The same non sense being peddled by certain people who are trying to be credible thereby lending credence to Pakistani Fanboy posts.

Anyone who knows how Army Commanders, Corps Commanders and GOCs move to forward locations, will be laughing their heads off reading this non-sense. Merely an attempt to drag forces to a level where every day they have to defend some absurd claim against them.

It is like Sameer Joshi, an ex-IAF pilot claiming no AWACS on station on 27 Feb 2019.

Welcome to the world where the idiot rules.

What ever happened or Did not Happen on
Feb 26 And Feb 27 , IAF has lost its AURA
Of Invincibility and Over whelming supremacy that we were led to believe
Over the years

I wonder why did not IAF ever imagine this
Scenario of being stranded without a Firing Solution

They always knew the Maximum Range of
R 77 and Amraam C5
 
What ever happened or Did not Happen on
Feb 26 And Feb 27 , IAF has lost its AURA
Of Invincibility and Over whelming supremacy that we were led to believe
Over the years

I wonder why did not IAF ever imagine this
Scenario of being stranded without a Firing Solution

They always knew the Maximum Range of
R 77 and Amraam C5
I agree. IAF tracked these guys getting airbirne from Multan and Sargodha and still did not scramble more fighters on CAP. Someone goofed up big time. Even the AWAC was not in station and was further down south. By the time it arrived at the proper station over eatern part of Jammu, close to China border, the dogfight was well on. It appears that the JF-17s which came from Skardu side were also picked up very late. It seems IAF was more tuned to defend Punjab airspace than Kashmir. But still the ground control intercept officers did a commandable job and whatever guys we had up in air also did a very good job as they did not allow them to get a firing solution. In air combat it is more important to deny the enemy his target than to actually shoot him down. One of the tactics of Mig-21 during cold war days was to bounce the enemy formations at supersonic speed from high altitude to make them drop their bombload and thus deny them the chance of hitting any target. Once you make the strike drop their load to save themselves to engage in air combat, you take out those many fighters from combat for 5-6 hrs. As that is the time they will need to return, rearm and come back again.
 
I agree. IAF tracked these guys getting airbirne from Multan and Sargodha and still did not scramble more fighters on CAP. Someone goofed up big time. Even the AWAC was not in station and was further down south. By the time it arrived at the proper station over eatern part of Jammu, close to China border, the dogfight was well on. It appears that the JF-17s which came from Skardu side were also picked up very late. It seems IAF was more tuned to defend Punjab airspace than Kashmir. But still the ground control intercept officers did a commandable job and whatever guys we had up in air also did a very good job as they did not allow them to get a firing solution. In air combat it is more important to deny the enemy his target than to actually shoot him down. One of the tactics of Mig-21 during cold war days was to bounce the enemy formations at supersonic speed from high altitude to make them drop their bombload and thus deny them the chance of hitting any target. Once you make the strike drop their load to save themselves to engage in air combat, you take out those many fighters from combat for 5-6 hrs. As that is the time they will need to return, rearm and come back again.

Both sides try to spring surprises on each other to get that edge in the initial moments. Pakistan true to its nature plans brilliantly but executes poorly. They got the initial surprise, drove away the Sukhois and still did not hit their targets but managed to lose one of their prime fighters !
 
IAF was under the impression that the Answer to Bombing of Balakot would be a similar Bombing by PAF

WTF , you are dealing with the progeny of Zaid Hamid

The PAF' s biggest weapon is Amraam and their no 1 enemy is Su 30

The whole idea of 27 Feb was not to bomb our targets but to Get a Sukhoi 30

IAF failing to visualise this Ambush by Amraams is a big failure of their Scenario building and Contingency planning
 
IAF was under the impression that the Answer to Bombing of Balakot would be a similar Bombing by PAF

WTF , you are dealing with the progeny of Zaid Hamid

The PAF' s biggest weapon is Amraam and their no 1 enemy is Su 30

The whole idea of 27 Feb was not to bomb our targets but to Get a Sukhoi 30

IAF failing to visualise this Ambush by Amraams is a big failure of their Scenario building and Contingency planning
The thing I still not understand is what was IAF even thinking the next day? They go bomb someone and the enemy won't retaliate? Even a fool would have seen it coming. They even had the audacity to say our ROE was only to prevent their counter-attack. I truly feel all this was done for only elections. If it was any other country they would have escalated given Pakistan's economic situation.
 
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How can we Destroy F 16 in the Air

The Next Air to Air Battle between F16 and Su 30 cannot be won unless we destroy their Ground Radars first , And that is not easy because of Layered Air Defence Radars

And also get the Best Russian Air to Air Missiles immediately

Sukhois will have to loiter at Maximum Altitude which is Higher than The F 16 and JF 17 and fire Salvos when they are Turning back due to Having Run out of Fuel
 
The thing I still not understand is what was IAF even thinking the next day? They go bomb someone and the enemy won't retaliate? Even a fool would have seen it coming. They even had the audacity to say our ROE was only to prevent their counter-attack. I truly feel all this was done for only elections. If it was any other country they would have escalated given Pakistan's economic situation.

Escalation would have caused casualties

That would have been suicidal for Modi

Remember how All the Anti Modi media
Was Shouting when Abhinandan was captured

Any way the IAF got a lot of time to make
New and Better plans

Pakistanis are also worried

They say that this Skirmish was like the
Stalemate of 1965 , BUT 1971 was when India took Its Real Revenge
 
Escalation would have caused casualties

That would have been suicidal for Modi

Remember how All the Anti Modi media
Was Shouting when Abhinandan was captured

Any way the IAF got a lot of time to make
New and Better plans

Pakistanis are also worried

They say that this Skirmish was like the
Stalemate of 1965 , BUT 1971 was when India took Its Real Revenge
Nothings going to happen. IAF is out of the picture. Wait for 2023 again. We are back to ground skirmishes which both of them enjoy.
I like your optimism anyway :)
 
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What ever happened or Did not Happen on
Feb 26 And Feb 27 , IAF has lost its AURA
Of Invincibility and Over whelming supremacy that we were led to believe
Over the years

I wonder why did not IAF ever imagine this
Scenario of being stranded without a Firing Solution

They always knew the Maximum Range of
R 77 and Amraam C5
IAF always believe on close combat tactics which did happen on 27th feb where Abhi took the PAF leader with R73 and IAF definitely aware of the range and the effectiveness of BVR missile that’s why no Point scored using BVR-AAM.SU 30 engage f16 for longer time after dodging these BVR-AAM but PAF did able gain the air dominance for sometime on 27th feb using multiple BVR-AAM ...it created a hot zone.we will fix this issue with new technology available to us.
In a war if you cancel a knight with a pawn (f16 with mig21) then why not .we may see mig21 fight with f16 in future if IAF goes with the plan .
 
IAF always believe on close combat tactics which did happen on 27th feb where Abhi took the PAF leader with R73 and IAF definitely aware of the range and the effectiveness of BVR missile that’s why no Point scored using BVR-AAM.SU 30 engage f16 for longer time after dodging these BVR-AAM but PAF did able gain the air dominance for sometime on 27th feb using multiple BVR-AAM ...it created a hot zone.we will fix this issue with new technology available to us.
In a war if you cancel a knight with a pawn (f16 with mig21) then why not .we may see mig21 fight with f16 in future if IAF goes with the plan .
What most of you have completely overlooked is that even the number two of Abhi evaded the AMRAAM. So it is not easy to shoot down a Bison.
 
IAF always believe on close combat tactics which did happen on 27th feb where Abhi took the PAF leader with R73 and IAF definitely aware of the range and the effectiveness of BVR missile that’s why no Point scored using BVR-AAM.SU 30 engage f16 for longer time after dodging these BVR-AAM but PAF did able gain the air dominance for sometime on 27th feb using multiple BVR-AAM ...it created a hot zone.we will fix this issue with new technology available to us.
In a war if you cancel a knight with a pawn (f16 with mig21) then why not .we may see mig21 fight with f16 in future if IAF goes with the plan .

What I feel is that this limited war concept
Suits PAF , they can create a 20 : 8 situation Again

Whereas They are Terribly afraid of the Good old Artillery and Simply vacate their posts
When we start pounding them

So limited war suits our Army but not IAF
For Moral Ascendancy we need More Artillery and MBRLs

IAF will have to plan for this scenario
That is 30 odd planes descending on Kashmir or any other border state
 
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