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How do we infer that it was Haider Shahbaz Ali and not any other pilot - lots of names were being passed around.
It was him and Sqn. Ldr. Hassan Siddiqui who died. A TV channel also reported from outside the house of Hassan Siddiqui in Karachi and they were promptly taken away. The Sherdil Sqn had Shabaz as the CO as shown in one of the documenteries on PTV.
 
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How do we infer that it was Haider Shahbaz Ali and not any other pilot - lots of names were being passed around.

well, there was always the confusion about the full name. But 'Shahbaz' as mentioned below on his uniform was always correct.
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It was him and Sqn. Ldr. Hassan Siddiqui who died. A TV channel also reported from outside the house of Hassan Siddiqui in Karachi and they were promptly taken away. The Sherdil Sqn had Shabaz as the CO as shown in one of the documenteries on PTV.

So far I heard, Hassan Siddiqui were severely injured( ro died few days after?) and Shabaz were lynched due to his sikh look.
 
Arsalan ended up being the only girl in an overloaded Karachi mini bus full of teenaged boys. So much for his trolling attempts.
I forget the term that validates lying if it means obfuscating the core intent...taqiya or something to that effect. This kid is a classic exponent

Check him out @Arsalan12980656
I can guarantee he will be quick to deny this is him :D:D
 
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It was him and Sqn. Ldr. Hassan Siddiqui who died. A TV channel also reported from outside the house of Hassan Siddiqui in Karachi and they were promptly taken away. The Sherdil Sqn had Shabaz as the CO as shown in one of the documenteries on PTV.
If this is true, then how can the Pak armed forces sustain their high morale against us? My friend (has army connections) always seemed puzzled with the high motivation levels of the Pak armed forces even though the results of all wars were not in their favour. They study battles etc. and would know how events panned out, yet they are highly motivated. Contrast this with the mindset of Indian armed forces for the Chinese theatre - one 1962 has affected us more than necessary, 1967 did not reverse it that much - did Doklam help?
 
If this is true, then how can the Pak armed forces sustain their high morale against us? My friend (has army connections) always seemed puzzled with the high motivation levels of the Pak armed forces even though the results of all wars were not in their favour. They study battles etc. and would know how events panned out, yet they are highly motivated. Contrast this with the mindset of Indian armed forces - one 1962 has affected us more than necessary, 1967 did not reverse it that much.
PA's only motivation is that they would cease to exist without a (narrative built) existential enemy. The jaahil awam has been brainwashed to believe this. Without a credible enemy (albeit fictional) the jernails in the pakjabi army would lose the grip over all the kickbacks and the millions of $$s they currently rake in.
 
Arsalan123 is a known troll playing good cop on Indian forums, and spewing venom.on twitter and elsewhere.. Dont get fooled with the so called reasonableness.

You guys already banned me on indian defence forum and it was me who was abused.abuses are common in indian defence forum.thank God we don't have this culture here.

@Arsalan123

Well, they lost the best pilot on that day.

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Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman Chief of the Air Staff, Pakistan Air Force awarding Chief of the Air Staff Trophy for best Combat Commander to Squadron Leader Haider Shahbaz Ali at the Graduation Ceremony Graduation Ceremony of Combat Commanders School PAF Base Sargodha
Are you sure? There is no evidence.

Arsalan ended up being the only girl in an overloaded Karachi mini bus full of teenaged boys. So much for his trolling attempts.
Hahahaha.
 
Feb 26 and Feb 27 AND the War like Situation that prevailed thereafter was the Most Useful thing to Happen to IAF in 20 years

There were several IAF Exercises all along the Indo Pak Border , in the last Three Months

Several Airfields and Squadrons were Activated at the Same time

And we gathered all the Necessary data regarding PAF , this happened because PAF
Was also Forced to Respond , fearing an imminent attack

Now what is left is Buying the Necessary
Weapons and some other hardware
 
For all those indian members who thinks that Hasan sidiqui died,kindly check this video.

Funny, isn't it. The aircraft in background is JF-17. We all know how Hassan looked like. AND your govt credited Nauman Ali for the kill. How does it all add up buddy.
These are the two pilots and both were F-16 pilots. Look at the ejection seat harness they are wearing. A clear give away.
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Funny, isn't it. The aircraft in background is JF-17. We all know how Hassan looked like. AND your govt credited Nauman Ali for the kill. How does it all add up buddy.
I think that this video was debunked at PDF itself. One member at PDF claims that F-16 shot down both Mig-21 and MKI, this is being opposed by other members. Though this does not stop anyone from celebrating a (supposed) MKI kill since JF-17s took part in the 27th air battle.
 
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Funny, isn't it. The aircraft in background is JF-17. We all know how Hassan looked like. AND your govt credited Nauman Ali for the kill. How does it all add up buddy.
These are the two pilots and both were F-16 pilots. Look at the ejection seat harness they are wearing. A clear give away.
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Most of our f-16 pilots fly jf-17 also.i am sure Hasan is alive.pakistani official claim is two indian jets down,not one but there is no evidence of second jet so I don't know much about the reality.
 
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