India - Pakistan Standoff 2019

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screambowl said:
Pakistan can be handled any time covertly. Overt action is not possible now , there is no legitimate reason for going overt we have lost the chance and on world platform it will show India as an aggressor, unless until Pakistan does something again. I hope they don't, many lives get lost.

Priority should be China not Pakistan.
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That is where you are wrong. To contain China, prority should be Pakistan and North Korea. China supports these two rogue nations to keep every power in Asia occupied and busy. You take out Pakistan and china will have to face full force of Indian Armed Forces on its borders. If North Korea is taken out or merged with South Korea, USA will get a land border to China. Please try and understand it is these goondas of China which we must tackle first. China will automatically climb down.
 
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Pakistanis are pathological liars,it is part of their DNA.just few days ago their pm Niazi was trying to pass off a quote by Rabindranath Tagore as a quote by some Islamic poet
 
vstol Jockey said:
Did I not tell you about this a few days back.
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R-37 is the name and we are getting 700 different types of air to air missiles. Next time Pakistan will get bloody nose if it tries to act smart like on 27th February after Balakot. This also shows we have planned more air force attacks on Pakistan. Maybe a sweet revenge of 27th February attack. Balakot attack helped a lot to know PAF capabilities and our shortfalls which are now being filled.

 
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Arsalan123 said:
From this latest air activity,it looks like iaf is planning another attack,probably want to hit our fighter jet.anyway let's see what will happen.
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@Arsalan123 there's a saying, as you sow so shall you reap.
Asaan shabdo main, Jo bowoge Wahi Fal Paoge.
Pakistan sowed Pulwama in return got Balakot.
PAF sowed 27th February air attack now the fruits are ready to be delivered by IAF....😁😁😂😂
 
lcafanboy said:
@Arsalan123 there's a saying, as you sow so shall you reap.
Asaan shabdo main, Jo bowoge Wahi Fal Paoge.
Pakistan sowed Pulwama in return got Balakot.
PAF sowed 27th February air attack now the fruits are ready to be delivered by IAF....😁😁😂😂
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After successful firing of R-37 by SU-30MKI, it will be good if PAF tankers and AWACS stay on ground. Latitude north of Lahore is now exclusive territory of IAF.
 
lcafanboy said:
Yeap. R-37 has incredible 300kms range. Entire Pakistani land is around 400kms wide on average. Meaning entire Pakistani air space is unsafe for PAF..😁😁
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HVAs are in danger, not fighter jets. So they can still operate F-16s closer to the border.

But those F-16s will not have AWACS support the next time they try to pull off the stunt they did on the 27th.
 
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vstol Jockey said:
And they will not be able to fire as they will be outranged by K-77Ms.
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The Russians have also developed the air launched versions of the 9M96 family, the missiles that go into the S-400. I wonder if the IAF is also interested in that. This may actually give us the capability to even engage fighter jets from long range.

Also I hope a CEC capability is added as part of the Su-30 MLU combined with the S-400. One can imagine how effective the combination will be if fire control is provided by Su-30s for the S-400. This is also the primary reason why I prefer the Su-30 to carry a Russian radar rather than an Uttam derivative.
 
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The Russians have also developed the air launched versions of the 9M96 family, the missiles that go into the S-400. I wonder if the IAF is also interested in that. This may actually give us the capability to even engage fighter jets from long range.

Also I hope a CEC capability is added as part of the Su-30 MLU combined with the S-400. One can imagine how effective the combination will be if fire control is provided by Su-30s for the S-400. This is also the primary reason why I prefer the Su-30 to carry a Russian radar rather than an Uttam derivative.
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Cooperative targeting is part of Super Sukhoi update and has been included in Su-57. Su-30MKI is a far superior platform compared to Su-35 in my opinion as it has two pilot cockpit and given its capabilities and future upgrades, this can be a real interdiction AWAC.
I think IAF announcing R-37 success is a part of overall game plan to keep everyone away from the area where Su-30MKIs are airborne. Just the way dogs and wolves run away from a herd of Elephants. The aim of air power is domination of sky and this need not be by using weapons, proven capability also can do the job.
 
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randomradio said:
HVAs are in danger, not fighter jets. So they can still operate F-16s closer to the border.

But those F-16s will not have AWACS support the next time they try to pull off the stunt they did on the 27th.
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2/3 of PAF fighter planes will be annhilated within a few hours of all out war.
27th February stunt by PAF was accomplished because IAF hands were tied tightly by government to not cross borders and set limits. These won't be the case during all out war where gloves will be out with steel inside to kill opponent..😉
 
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Cooperative targeting is part of Super Sukhoi update and has been included in Su-57. Su-30MKI is a far superior platform compared to Su-35 in my opinion as it has two pilot cockpit and given its capabilities and future upgrades, this can be a real interdiction AWAC.
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2 pilots and 5th gen avionics will give them very good battlespace management capabilities inside enemy territory.
 
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Arsalan123 said:
I want to ask a question to all Indian members here.what do you think what will happen if there is another bomb blast in Kashmir? Do you think that a war will break out? And how many of you support limited war and how many of you support full fledged war? In my country pakistan,there is a concept that war will break out at any time.we know one blast can start a war.
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No hate, no bigotry, just facts and counter me if you feel so.

You pray and bow down in direction of Arabia thousands of miles away and then turn back yelling on Hindus to leave Kashmir. Even your holy book has no mention of Kashmir. Do you know age of amarnath? And you uprooted a 5000 years civilization for god's sake.

Even if we assume Indian army is an invader then do you consider ghauri, ghaznavi etc as invaders? So your invaders are hero and when we "invade" then it's about human rights and plebiscite?

Leaving all that aside, it's an ubiquitous fact that Muslims are violent, backward, illegal immigrants and live on state benefits among many Europeans and now Indians as well.

All of above are rational arguments or subconcious thought of average literate Indian. That's why majority of Indians now believe that terrorism won't stop with dialogue or exchange of land because India already gave up 33% territory during independence.

Behavior of rest of Indian Muslims and worldwide events don't put much faith in dialogue either.

So yes if a bomb goes off in India with significant casualties and Pakistanis are found to be involved then war is possible and that's because of defacto instinct that you will always be terrorists and no talks can persuade you out of it.

One of the reasons why India is spending so much on BMD.
 
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@Cole_phelps Love the username, welcome aboard.

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