IMHO pack your bags and start moving your shit out of pak .. forget Kashmir .. If war breaks out in Iran ... India will take it as a queue ..aur behti ganga main haath dho lenge
India - Pakistan Standoff 2019
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IMHO pack your bags and start moving your shit out of pak .. forget Kashmir .. If war breaks out in Iran ... India will take it as a queue ..aur behti ganga main haath dho lenge
Paf is not sitting idle.i think we know about this plan of missile testing by iaf.we integrated our own pl-15 on jf-17 thunders and I believe paf will also think about pl-21 and pl-12d and they both are ramjet.i think we integrated pl-15.there are lots of news available related to this rumor and pl-15 range is probably 400 km so watch out.xd
And on which platform you plan to integrate it? Chinese crap can't be integrated with F16 and after that the only plane PAF got is JF17, are you sure that underpowered overweight plane can carry that heavy missile? Can radar of jf17 even look that far to utilize it?
Just because it's on offer (if it is) doesn't mean you can integrate it or use it.
Relax Arsalan. GoI has indicated its fight is not against Pakistan but against terrorists. If IAF does cross the border again, it will again strike terror havens. There is no indication that IAF is aiming to hit PAF. Terrorists are another story however.
The PL-15 is in the same class as the K-77M. It's not a 400Km missile. Whether it's as good or better or worse than the K-77M, I do not know, but one would most definitely need the JF-17 Block 3 in order to use it. The Block 1 and 2 do not have the radar capability for it.
As for PL-12D and PL-21, you should see if the Chinese will actually clear it for export. PLAAF do not like to export hi-tech stuff that they themselves operate.
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Let's not underestimate the PAF. Post Gaganshakti, I've found the IAF to be full of hubris. Not only did they twiddle their thumbs on 27th Feb, they thought PAF would do the same.
Let them announce their procurements to the universe but for God's sake, let not the idiots cut their nose in public. Their performance on the 27th was despicable. Absolutely disgusting.
So Gini is out of the bottle!!
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Yes radar is issue but I think we can guide it using awacs.also overweight issue is solved.jf-17 can carry pl-15.
On 27 Feb night,they provided us pl-15 and it is planned to be used by block 3 but block 1 and 2 can also use it if awacs can guide these missiles.this is easy solution to our problems.pl-12d and pl-21 both are ramjet and not for export but for pakistan,anything is possible.we are good friends.pakistan really likes fc-31.a joint project for double engine heavy fighter is a possibility.
Correct..should be..this is the cost we are putting for state sponsor terrorism. Earlier it was free of cost. Thats what we want sir. Depth of 2.5 trillion $ economy vs a shrinking(dollar term) economy at 290 billion $.
do you even cross check what you post here. PL-15 is not ramjet powered. It is a copy of R-77 with slightly extra length for more fuel and has a range of 150 kms compared to 120 kms of R-77-1.
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Also, you can't change your geography dude... your fighters will always be more vulnerable due to lack of strategic depth..
Tell me one thing.. why haven't the Chinese given you J-10, their most reliable and not so cutting edge fighter. They would hate the day, if their fighters get exposed, in a Indo Pak skirmish or war. They don't want their fighter pilots' morale to be weighed down by sub-par performance of Pakistani pilots.. The Chinese will never sell you their top of the line fighters.
Also, you can't change your geography dude... your fighters will always be more vulnerable due to lack of strategic depth..
Musharraf ordered 36 j-10 but corrupt people's party cancelled the contract in their tenure.china wants to sell j-10 but right now,we can't buy it.every Chinese weapon is available to Pakistan and we have very good ties.recently we tested their anti ship missile.we already operate their Sams.china is a blessing.
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Can you please show me one article or one statement of chinese wherein they have stated that PL-12D is operational or was ever tested? It was a proposed missile and never made. Seems once again PAF is going to use missiles which fly on Rouhani taqat.
Your own article says that PL-15 is too heavy for JF-17 Blk 1 & 2. Only Blk-3 is supposed to carry this. And you have yet to show me any pic or article which says that PL-15D is operational. Lot of articles state many things based on published data.
You have just underestimated the IAF. The IAF "twiddled their thumbs" because the govt made sure that they did so by regulation. The IAF don't have clearance to shoot across the border, which was required during the Balakot skirmish.
Did you forget that even during an actual war, GoI did not allow the IAF to cross LoC?
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