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HVAs like tankers do not ferry fuel. No one can afford that anyway. You'd much rather use trucks and trains.

It can be done for extremely remote places, like Leh.

Can u guess anything from his clues?

- Tanker refuel, full stop.

( in reply to my post tanker refuel fighters)

- No hit.

- vstol mentioned air space closure date until 28, only 2 days more.
 
Can u guess anything from his clues?

- Tanker refuel, full stop.

( in reply to my post tanker refuel fighters)

- No hit.

- vstol mentioned air space closure date until 28, only 2 days more.

No clue. A lot of posts which could have possibly given structure have been deleted.

He might be referring to open source intel in identifying military aircraft that suddenly appeared out of nowhere, which indicates it was likely performing some mission.
 
My personal opinion is India won't go for the F-16. It lacks two engines and is overall not as capable as the Rafale. So it won't even get shortlisted for it to be considered. But if MWF fails compeletely and the IAF is forced to go in for an F-16 vs Gripen competition, then it's back in the reckoning. It will still have to win on its own merit.

The question of US planes and Russian Air defense will come up again then?
 
Question-

In a recent interview pilots who conducted the strike said they hit the targets. In absence of video feed what other options pilot have to confirm the hit for stand off weapons. Distance was around 70km visual confirmation is not posible were they briefed later at base or some others sensors keep track of weapon released and it's impact point.

Already mentioned. We had something else monitoring it.
 
The question of US planes and Russian Air defense will come up again then?

They already are, and will continue to do so until we take delivery in 2020.

They will likely try to stop us again once we show interest for a second batch of 5-7 regiments.
 
Sir, they say that our Balakot strikes failed and our aircraft were chased away from Pak airspace, so they also used their aircraft to show similar capability. In my mind the question is, why have such a large formation if their goal was only to show intent? Why the need to target our aircraft when they chose(?) to not do so the previous night? Something is not adding up in their version.

They must have planned so well to strike a tree near our brigade HQ, since they claim that we have only felled a few trees :oops:.

Each country has a chosen narrative, only the guys up know the truth. Rest is the version we wish to be true.


Sir.

The best part of waging a low intensity conflict through proxies is the flexibility in terms of deniability and ownership. The rules of the game are clear to either side (the supporter and it's proxy). When you have a steady pool of supply of men/women willing to die for a cause, a couple lost here or there are merely tactical loses, not worth losing the perspective in the longer game. The longer game is the continuation of problems for India in J&K, while politically weakening the resolve of the Indian state either through persistent costs or through using the strength of Indian political system - that of Democracy and Right to Freedom of Expression, to create 'red flags' against Indian tactics in Kashmir.

PAF's primary, and here I remain categorical, was AFBs at Sirnagar and/or Awantipore. Not the assets, but a strike in vicinity, That was jammed and thwarted in a combination.

As for the secondary, that was but a given. PAF fighters undertook a technical violation, for a couple of seconds. That, was posted quite early by me. Yet, we have so called defence experts and correspondents peddling non-sense for reasons best known to them. That is why I questioned the actions of Wg Cdr Abhinandan too. And that is why I said that technically PAF has invaded India. GoI sat on it's behind over this one.
 
Point being once S400 delivery begins, how does US sell planes to India when India will expect integration with S400 and other Russian gear


India is not going with US aircrafts for primarily one reason - the riders of employability on western front. And type of munitions that can be integrated. There is no restriction for US platforms purchased by IAF on Chinese front. But for Pakistan, there is some restriction (due to US interests).

With French, we do not have any such restriction. That is why Rafale was always a winner.
 
So considering the F-16 vs. Grippen scenario posed by @randomradio - The US will not sit quietly and let Grippen win a prime juicy order. Will the deadlock prevent the order from going ahead?


Gripen ... possibility is there as either ways, GE gets a juicy order. But remote. I am expecting a follow on for Rafale. The French are willing to collaborate in quite a depth. And LCA Project will be boosted. A JV for next Gen? Why not. The Franco-German JV can always be a good option for India too. Future depends on tremendous integration of Technology, AI and autonomous weapons/platforms. And that needs significant technological inputs which, by themselves, entail huge costs.

The alignment of Indian interests with those of Europe, Israel and US is apparent to all concerned. And China will be a threat for everyone in terms of market (defence equipment) in addition to extra-territorial ambitions/claims (the former - the market, is primary driver in my opinion here).

Market (and through it technological) denial was what broke the USSR, for that imposed huge costs on USSR to match the technological advances.

Just premising
 
PAF's primary, and here I remain categorical, was AFBs at Sirnagar and/or Awantipore. Not the assets, but a strike in vicinity, That was jammed and thwarted in a combination.
You are grossly wrong on this. PAF knew the costs of such and adventure an desisted from it. They targeted formations close to LOC which did not have SAM cover at that TIME. Check with your sources buddy. What we have today is an analysis of what PAF wanted to achieve on 27th and we find many different theories about it. But the thrust is that PAF itself did not know what they wanted to achieve on 27th. Please stop quoting ACM Fali Major.
 
Gripen ... possibility is there as either ways, GE gets a juicy order. But remote. I am expecting a follow on for Rafale. The French are willing to collaborate in quite a depth. And LCA Project will be boosted. A JV for next Gen? Why not. The Franco-German JV can always be a good option for India too. Future depends on tremendous integration of Technology, AI and autonomous weapons/platforms. And that needs significant technological inputs which, by themselves, entail huge costs.

The alignment of Indian interests with those of Europe, Israel and US is apparent to all concerned. And China will be a threat for everyone in terms of market (defence equipment) in addition to extra-territorial ambitions/claims (the former - the market, is primary driver in my opinion here).

Market (and through it technological) denial was what broke the USSR, for that imposed huge costs on USSR to match the technological advances.

Just premising

The question is hypothetical depending on a lot of Ifs but a good exercise to gauge the US intent even as it proclaims to any one who will listen how India is an "Important Ally".
 
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Already mentioned. We had something else monitoring it.

Yeah now I remember you made a post about and I think it was even before dogfight of 27th that you said a friendly aircraft was there for this purpose. I hope I remember correctly and not mixing it with other mysterious asset you won't tell on the day of dogfight. Eitherway it's so nice to see you active here sir, please stay active, help us in learning something new everyday.
 
Yeah now I remember you made a post about and I think it was even before dogfight of 27th that you said a friendly aircraft was there for this purpose. I hope I remember correctly and not mixing it with other mysterious asset you won't tell on the day of dogfight. Eitherway it's so nice to see you active here sir, please stay active, help us in learning something new everyday.
He seems to be more active elsewhere with a different name.
 
Point being once S400 delivery begins, how does US sell planes to India when India will expect integration with S400 and other Russian gear

We will be using our own comm systems, whether it's American or Russian. Basically, we use a combination of Indian and Israeli tech here. For example, the P-8Is use Indian tech like a BEL made datalink and IFF. So when it comes to integration, even the Turks will be using their own tech.

The problem for the US is, they believe the Russians will secretly steal data generated by the S-400. And the F-35 is vulnerable to this because passive stealth that comes in through airframe shaping cannot be upgraded. Other non-stealth aircraft do not face this problem since electronics can be upgraded.

Another problem for the Americans is they do not want the Russians proliferating such systems because the Americans love snooping on other countries (particularly the "bad guys" like Iran and China). And they use UAVs and other recce aircraft to do it. But the S-400 can kill such aircraft from a long range, which is a big problem. For example, most recce aircraft have service ceilings of 12Km or less. And these aircraft can only see up to 370 Km due to the radar horizon. And actual sensor efficiency is lesser than that. So the S-400 with a 400Km missile has basically made most recce aircraft vulnerable. It gets worse during war time, when the recce aircraft cannot get close to do what they are designed for.
 
And that is why I said that technically PAF has invaded India. GoI sat on it's behind over this one.

The problem is, to the world, it was an attack on "disputed" territory rather than sovereign territory. Whereas our attack was on sovereign territory, even if it was termed "non-military".
 
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