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We didn't hit chaffs.i am sure about that.amraam wreckage is mystery from iaf.they didn't explain the location where they found amraam.
There was an article about it, your missile hit a house and injured the owner, he later reported it to police. There is even FIR I think, can't find the article but it's buried here in initial pages of this thread.
 
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use of noise jamming and deception jamming

while escorting the attack package the jammer is placed above the attack package it, then applies noise jamming by injecting high powered beams into the target radar. This then denies azimuth range etc information to the target radar.

on sukhois, it's basically deceptive jamming system installed, they require less power than noise jamming. They simply store the incoming radar signals use ADC and store in sample separately, known as sampling and then modifies it using EW suite , which is a software to attenuating the signal with false info and then relay it using DAC to the target radar.
Please read about RGPO and VGPO. Noise Jamming does not create false targets. Even DRFM jamming does not create false targets.
 
Please read about RGPO and VGPO. Noise Jamming does not create false targets. Even DRFM jamming does not create false targets.

sir what I read is RGPO VGPO are part of deceptive jamming, which I already mentioned in my previous post. These are not the only tricks though.
on sukhois, it's basically deceptive jamming system installed, they require less power than noise jamming. They simply store the incoming radar signals use ADC and store in sample separately, known as sampling and then modifies it using EW suite , which is a software to attenuating the signal with false info and then relay it using DAC to the target radar.
 
The narrative has to be decided by the political powers that be in the center. If they subscribe to the view, that of disputed territory, then they are justified and we may as well take a re-look at our aims in Kashmir.

As far as we are concerned, it's most definitely our sovereign territory. But to the world, it's like Taiwan.
 
As far as we are concerned, it's most definitely our sovereign territory. But to the world, it's like Taiwan.

Taiwan is different. They have their own military and govt...and defacto (as recognised by world) ability to handle and coordinate themselves with those....just question of who has the larger (de jure) political legitimacy over the island (and nearly all the world's govts recognise PRC over ROC for that).

Kashmir as seen by world is relatively unique one. It certainly has no equivalent to the ROC govt and military....and neither has anyone in world significantly (or enough numbers/influence) picked a side (of the two in contention) as having a higher ultimate political legitimacy over the entirety.
 
Taiwan is different. They have their own military and govt...and defacto (as recognised by world) ability to handle and coordinate themselves with those....just question of who has the larger (de jure) political legitimacy over the island (and nearly all the world's govts recognise PRC over ROC for that).

Kashmir as seen by world is relatively unique one. It certainly has no equivalent to the ROC govt and military....and neither has anyone in world significantly (or enough numbers/influence) picked a side (of the two in contention) as having a higher ultimate political legitimacy over the entirety.

Yep, but that's being too specific. When it comes to J&K, the entire world doesn't yet see it as India's sovereign territory yet. The UN itself sees the entirety of the state as disputed. So, to the world, Pakistan attacking targets in Kashmir is not really that different from the a non-Chinese navy sailing within the "territorial waters" of the disputed SCS islands controlled by China.
 
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F*ck the world, settle it by force.
Settling it by force will send up back by decades. That piece of land is not worth it considering we'll be facing another superpower at our doorsteps. Status quo suits us anyway, It will always keep us on toes and a good training ground to prepare for large insurgencies.
What we really need is to keep the kettle hot but use a towel thick enough to insulate us from the heat.
 
Set India back how exactly? Let's not be cowards, give Pakistan another year or two to complete its collapse but India has to be there to hasten the fall & mop things up when they reach their logical conclusion.

The world respects strength and decisiveness. These are qualities inherently antithetical to the Republic of India, but it has no choice but to foster them.

See we Indians are little introvert kind of people and our ideology is self development not community development. No where in our books there is any thing related to community. Whatever is there it is either related to Moksha or Dharm(duty) which is your individual matter. So we do not really see India as a religious community but a civil society. But in Kalyug we have to behave like community and do for community as Krishna said, Bhakti is the only way to moksha. And Bhakti happens in religion only.

Now to keep all of these things united, we are doing a lot of efforts like raising Kashmir issue, fighting Pakistan and fighting with China , xyz..

This is required otherwise we will disperse because we have nothing in common, not even Gods are one. The only mistake we are doing is we have not been able to convince Pakistanis and people in our own country that they are part of us only who have been misled by invaders. And to do that you need a lot of money power and media power. Unfortunately, media is gone into the hands of advisories and money we do not have .

So before expanding yourself you need to be really rich and powerful in building weapons, which we are not as of now. Till then Let Pakistan remain as a buffer region to absorb all the scum coming from central asia.

may be after 20-30 years when people in India start suffocating due to large population then we would realize that wish we would have taken some land to accommodate the growing population.

Right now people are careless.
 
Set India back how exactly? Let's not be cowards, give Pakistan another year or two to complete its collapse but India has to be there to hasten the fall & mop things up when they reach their logical conclusion.

As of today, the Indian army is still a third world equivalent army backed by a third world economy. We are on the cusp of turning into a first world equivalent army. Until that happens, war is something that should be far, far away from our minds. Hell, the army is still using communications sytems from the Vietnam era.

The world respects strength and decisiveness. These are qualities inherently antithetical to the Republic of India, but it has no choice but to foster them.

True that. But we are yet to foster them. The USN with just their peacetime formations with conventional weapons can wipe out the IN and IAF within a week or two and send us back to the stoneage within a month. No power plants, no power grid, no ports, no bridges. And that time frame is just an overestimation. So you can imagine where we actually stand.

Leave war to the first world walas. Right now, we should just cower and sit silently, just like the Chinese are and will continue to for at least 15 more years.

For now we should continue doing disproportionate revenge attacks like Balakot whenever possible.
 
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The USN with just their peacetime formations with conventional weapons can wipe out the IN and IAF within a week or two and send us back to the stoneage within a month. No power plants, no power grid, no ports, no bridges. And that time frame is just an overestimation. So you can imagine where we actually stand.
Then ask question why USA opposes S-400.. can they do as you claim post S-400 coverage & India having better supersonic cruise missiles Aka Bhramos..
The tides turn & USA ability to ever threaten India Military ceases to exist in future.
 
Set India back how exactly? Let's not be cowards, give Pakistan another year or two to complete its collapse but India has to be there to hasten the fall & mop things up when they reach their logical conclusion.

The world respects strength and decisiveness. These are qualities inherently antithetical to the Republic of India, but it has no choice but to foster them.
This is not 1971 where you can create another insurgency and grab our part.expect heavy damage in case of war.pakistani provinces are not for sale.
 
NEW NOTAM - PAKISTAN


PAKISTAN AIRSPACE WILL REMAIN CLOSED FOR ALL OVERFLYING

(TRANSIT) FLIGHTS TILL 12TH JULY 2019

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It seems Pakistan is over considerate about their planes losing their flight path and not collide with the Chandrayan takeoff, so the best way is to not fly them at all and keep the airspace closed till the successful launch of Chandrayan.

Achche padosi hain, badi door ki sochte hain :p:p:p
 
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