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Whatever.we left wreckage behind so that you guys will open your eyes but unfortunately,you are assuming indian version only.at least read our version.
Sir PDF members are saying that two indian jets went down.they are saying they have evidence.some of them are very senior and in contact with paf.i am sick and tired of this second jet theory.i don't understand who lost plane on 27 Feb so I decided to follow our narrative blindly.both air forces are not providing any detail.it is very sad that people like us don't know actual events.
Yeah I have read your version and also those senior well connected members and they are joke, absolute complete fking joke.

Consider this-

  • Your ACM attributes kill to JF17
  • Kill was also awarded to AMRAAM to save face of failed targeting.
  • Then again weapon manifest says Jf17 carried no A2A missile.

During all this drama none of your senior member asked if Jf17 can't fire AMRAAM how the hell does it got the kill? If JF17 killed Su30 and Mig what did AMRAAM killed? Exactly how many did you shot down and how? If your narrative is taken into account only scenario appears-

Jf17 killed Su30 70km away using either 23mm Gun or Air to Ground bomb, or even better Pilot used the pistol to bring down two planes. Then 2 AMRAAM from F16 killed 2 more planes flown by Single pilots and still those members could count to 2 or 3 kills. Either from top to bottom your math sucks or you people can't even get lie straight after 4 months.

Your ACM lied so blatantly and you are talking about jackass whose third cousin is mechanic or spare man used to manually push planes instead of tow truck. Do you seriously want us to believe this crap?
 
For Pakistan , economy is Irrelevant
They always beg before Saudi and China

They only respond to overwhelming Force

After 2016 there were low level skirmishes
Till Pulwama

When Indian Army opened up its 155 mm guns they ran away from their posts

Why is LOC so quiet these days

Possibly Recuperating and rearming with the budget available.
 
If PAF had the absolute upper hand on the 27th then we would have kept quiet, but we are not quiet as reported in your forum. Lets assume that PAF had the upper hand:
  1. If we wanted to take revenge then PAF can retaliate likewise, yet you keep your airspace off-limits while we keep ours open.
  2. Even after winning on 27th you are not confident of your prowess hence you keep your airspace closed.
  3. Why is our airspace open and PAF is not trying anything despite our supposed repeated provocations?
So what conclusions do we draw from all this?
There is danger of attack from iaf that's why nobody wants to open air space.there must be something that we are missing.
 
When DG ISPR can lie about JF-17 kills... what credibility remains as regards to these very senior jokers... Let me be clear about one thing... A statement by Indian military has inherently more credibility than a statement from Pak military..
We changed our statement after iaf showed amraam.we don't want Americans to ask us why you used f-16.
 
Indian version is at it is from the day 1:

You came in with mirage 5, jf17 f16s and we shot your aircraft down and in this engagement we lost one mig21.
GoI never said unless until confirmed by radar signature that f16 was shot by us.

You denied using f16 but now you agree. Your government's statement can now longer be considered as authentic because they have habit of changing it every time.
I agree that we changed statements but there is something which is missing.this is not complete story.
 
But u claim that IAF is incompetent and you had complete air superiority that day and spare various aircrafts that had lockons , so why this danger of attack?
We had upper hand because we created numerical superiority for a little time.revenge my friend revenge.iaf wants revenge.we don't know if they want to take revenge or they created a new policy of attacking Pakistan at any time.in any way,there is danger.
 
Yeah I have read your version and also those senior well connected members and they are joke, absolute complete fking joke.

Consider this-

  • Your ACM attributes kill to JF17
  • Kill was also awarded to AMRAAM to save face of failed targeting.
  • Then again weapon manifest says Jf17 carried no A2A missile.

During all this drama none of your senior member asked if Jf17 can't fire AMRAAM how the hell does it got the kill? If JF17 killed Su30 and Mig what did AMRAAM killed? Exactly how many did you shot down and how? If your narrative is taken into account only scenario appears-

Jf17 killed Su30 70km away using either 23mm Gun or Air to Ground bomb, or even better Pilot used the pistol to bring down two planes. Then 2 AMRAAM from F16 killed 2 more planes flown by Single pilots and still those members could count to 2 or 3 kills. Either from top to bottom your math sucks or you people can't even get lie straight after 4 months.

Your ACM lied so blatantly and you are talking about jackass whose third cousin is mechanic or spare man used to manually push planes instead of tow truck. Do you seriously want us to believe this crap?
My God you are very funny.think like a professional.i am not saying that all of our claims are rights.events are unknown and jf-17 can only fire pl-12.
 
But u claim that IAF is incompetent and you had complete air superiority that day and spare various aircrafts that had lockons , so why this danger of attack?

Pakistan is fearing another attack - for reasons best known to it. Either they are planning something stupid again or they know a terror op is being planned and will not/can not stop it. So they are keeping their guard up.

Also it looks good in the papers when Pakistani leaders proclaim they are imposing punitive cost on India by closing their airspace.
 
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We had upper hand because we created numerical superiority for a little time.revenge my friend revenge.iaf wants revenge.we don't know if they want to take revenge or they created a new policy of attacking Pakistan at any time.in any way,there is danger.
U have broken rules of engagement by friend by firing AAMs at Su30s from well within your own territory while Su30s hadn't even crossed LoC and now no aircraft near LoC or IB is safe , RoEs have been changed
 
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Pakistan is fearing another attack - for reasons best known to it. Either they are planning something stupid again or they know a terror op is being planned and will not/can not stop it. So they are keeping their guard up.

Pakistan is keeping guard up because they are expecting IAF revenge. We may take it lightly but incumbent officers who are responsible for integrity of pak airspace knows best.

Even after kargil war we shot atlantique which could have been threatened away with warning or radar lock. Instead we made sure it was shot down.

@Arsalan123 you can keep your dp. I was just curious about forum guidelines. Your dime a dozen patches can best be used to "rafuu" a torn jeans.
 
Which was due to your terror attack.

Bottom line is you set a precedent - firing at planes in their own airspace. This is going to bite you.
The best thing for us is to use courage.we showed to the world that pakistan cares about it's territory.whether you hit terrorist or anything else,it doesn't matter to us.we have responsibility to protect our part and we are doing it.
 
Pakistan is keeping guard up because they are expecting IAF revenge. We may take it lightly but incumbent officers who are responsible for integrity of pak airspace knows best.

Even after kargil war we shot atlantique which could have been threatened away with warning or radar lock. Instead we made sure it was shot down.

@Arsalan123 you can keep your dp. I was just curious about forum guidelines. Your dime a dozen patches can best be used to "rafuu" a torn jeans.
Sir you can make fun of us but don't underestimate us.as I told you earlier,we don't fear death.we know India is big and you have numerical superiority but we also have responsibilities to defend our country.there is nothing more important than defending your country.
 
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