We don't need more tactical decisions.we are winning proxy war.it will continue.make it your habit.forget afghanistan.it is our yard.
India - Pakistan Standoff 2019
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So sweet Arsalan.. and how many times have you stared death in the face, and spit on its face in return... it's easy to be a keyboard warrior, but quite difficult to remember your mission when a 155 mm shell explodes next to you...
Pakistan has been threatening to throw the kitchen sink at India, since the attack on Parliament in 2001: " Hamne atom bum kamre mein sajane ke liye Nahi banaya Hain" has lost its potency..
So you accept Pakistan is officially a Terrorist country, as accepted by its own citizens.. As not only, statement of yours confirmed, by proxy aka terrorists Pakistan is sending, not only to India a Hindu country (as pak claims) but also sending it in Afghanistan to kill fellow Muslims bradars..
Its good that you accepted truth for once, but you have missed one more country where Pakistan is sending its proxies/terrorist. Maybe due to ignorance..
Iran summons Pakistan envoy to protest against suicide attack
like Jaish-al-Adl to another fellow Muslim bradar country, Iran..
Very interesting the attack in Iran was almost similar to Pulwama attack with similar modus operandi.. Can say almost a practice run, as it was executed a day or 2 before attack in India
Your members also accepted earlier that they are using proxy.i mean come on,you aren't a kid.
You have no idea about pakistani missile systems and it's delivery mechanisms.aek attack see kuch nahy bigarne Wala Jani.
Apparently people are still under the impression that PAF intended to directly hit Indian Army's military installations, and that IAF 'thwarted' all of the PAF's strikes, which 'hastily' dropped the bombs and retreated. Let's consider that IAF actually did thwart PAF's strikes.
PAF strike claims:
H-4 SOW = Semi-autonomous INS+TV-guided 1200kg (600kg warhead) rocket-boosted glide bomb (120km max range, 200km max comms link)
Mk-83 REK = Autonomous GPS-guided 500kg glide bomb (60km max range)
Questions:
1. Considering IAF's claim that Su-30MKIs were busy evading AMRAAMs and MiG-21s were chasing F-16s:
Which aircrafts were challenging PAF's JF-17s and Mirage-III/Vs?
2. Considering IAF had no jamming asset in the vicinity, and PAF Mirages launched H-4s from at least ~30km inside Pakistani airspace:
How were the H-4 strikes thwarted?
3. Considering that the JF-17s were roughly 45km from Rajouri (according to IAF's air situation), and there was no IAF asset challenging them:
How were the Mk-83 REK strikes thwarted?
4. Considering that IAF Chief BS Dhanoa said that PAF did not cross LoC and jettisoned its payloads hastily:
How did PAF's SOWs found their way reportedly only one tree and 700m away from IA installations?
PAF strike claims:
- 2x Mirage-VPAs launched 1x H-4 SOW each, guided by 1x Mirage-IIIDP each (evidence present, mutually agreed fact).
- 2x JF-17s launched 2x Mk-83 GPS-assisted REKs each (PAF claim).
H-4 SOW = Semi-autonomous INS+TV-guided 1200kg (600kg warhead) rocket-boosted glide bomb (120km max range, 200km max comms link)
Mk-83 REK = Autonomous GPS-guided 500kg glide bomb (60km max range)
Questions:
1. Considering IAF's claim that Su-30MKIs were busy evading AMRAAMs and MiG-21s were chasing F-16s:
Which aircrafts were challenging PAF's JF-17s and Mirage-III/Vs?
2. Considering IAF had no jamming asset in the vicinity, and PAF Mirages launched H-4s from at least ~30km inside Pakistani airspace:
How were the H-4 strikes thwarted?
3. Considering that the JF-17s were roughly 45km from Rajouri (according to IAF's air situation), and there was no IAF asset challenging them:
How were the Mk-83 REK strikes thwarted?
4. Considering that IAF Chief BS Dhanoa said that PAF did not cross LoC and jettisoned its payloads hastily:
How did PAF's SOWs found their way reportedly only one tree and 700m away from IA installations?
For the resident professionals, reporting from 6 feet under:
For future reference, in case somebody does the brilliant analysis of these images being faked:
For future reference, in case somebody does the brilliant analysis of these images being faked:
JF-17s never got a chance to fire their stuff. They went back with the load.
PAF SOWs were launched and they suffered jamming when they came within the jamming range.
Of course, the JF-17s must have gone back with their loads to land and re-arm with full AAM loadout to come back and support the F-16s...because that was more important than launching autonomous SOWs in unchallenged airspace.
The jamming makes sense too, the Mirage-IIIDP WSO must have mistaken the tree for the IAF installation because of excessive noise on his guidance console.
.I'm sure there are enough experts here who can do a reverse image search and backtrack to the first time they appeared online. Unless of course, ALL PAF pilots are arrogant celebrities who habitually pose with support staff and other military personnel in a celebratory manner...in case they find themselves 6 feet under.
Interestingly your ACM was clicked visiting Nauman ali Khan and congratulating him(i think he was the one who flew ACM in march) after the skirmish and not Hassan Siddiqui why?
Interestingly your ACM was clicked visiting Nauman ali Khan and congratulating him(i think he was the one who flew ACM in march) after the skirmish and not Hassan Siddiqui why?
Of course IAF is all set and looking for the right opportunity to shoot down any of your PAF aircraft whenever it comes close to Indian border or tries to ingress, even if it is a cargo.
We need not presume that the JF-17s changed their load to support F-16s. Everything was over in a short while.
Not all H4s hit trees, i think.
You seem to be quite an idiot here. Aren't you. Your own Air Cmde has debunked all your claims. You are still living in la-la land. IAF always claimed that the strike on land targets was done by Mirages and the three F-16s which came in. All other fighters were in ambush position. I wrote what your Tufail posted. Go and ask him about what was carried by JF-17s. As far as IAF is concerned, JF-17s were part of the packcage but did not participate in the actual battle.
Ask your charlie ACM why he wanted to give the Mig-21Bison kill to JF-17.
Regarding jamming, the jamming signal must achieve a particular strength for it to overwhelm the receiver and for that distance distance from the jammer matters.
You will never find this education in a madarsa which teaches you that earth is flat and earthquakes are caused by women driving cars.
Very very interesting indeed. Maybe ask this guy below?
Take your time.
But Saar, ACM BS Dhanoa categorically stated a few days ago that PAF did not cross the LoC, and you say that 3x F-16s came in. I'm confused, unfortunately my madrassa education didn't equip me with the technical knowledge necessary to rationally argue on online forums.
BTW, is there any technology which can resurrect a pilot from 6 feet under?
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Yes Pakistanis can. Rouhani taqat hain na. Let us wait for 14th August and the investiture ceremony.
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