India - Pakistan Standoff 2019
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If chinese ate doing this , we should target Chinese investments in Balochistan with the help from Americans , Pakistanis are already frustrated with their political system while impressed with Chinese model ,we can use this to prop up
maoist type insurgency in Pakistan , Pakistan needs to pay the price for aligning with the Chinese , even the Chinese know that Pakistanis are the punching bags of everyone
Americans are already using Xinjiang to target them ,we need to our job
maoist type insurgency in Pakistan , Pakistan needs to pay the price for aligning with the Chinese , even the Chinese know that Pakistanis are the punching bags of everyone
Americans are already using Xinjiang to target them ,we need to our job
they will start another one in a different place. We need to pay them back in their own coin....err fake notes. Once fake notes get into circulation in a big way it will lead to massive inflation.
No better time to do it than now. Print them and distribute it to the NDS.Sit back & watch the fun. That's called death by a 1000 cuts.
I believe Chinese hand exists in everything Pakistan does against us. China/America uses Pak as proxy to destabilise India. But I don't think China will use any one incident specifically to teach us a lesson, especially since what you mentioned would make them look as giving a sneaky response to an overt action (stopping Dokhlam by us). I think an overt action would invite an overt response and not something sneaky for a country like China which has an inflated ego and is afraid of loosing face.
But it is ofcorse obvious Pak has blessings of enemies and frenemies of India... China, UK, Saudis, Muslims world, america, etc.
I like to see things in a more broad and overall way instead of looking at incidents as one -off types.
Incorrect. And a figment of imagination.
Thank you for calling out this Chinese Bhel of conspiracy theories.
PS - We could use some real inputs on Dokalam
Okay but this is my gut feeling. Placed it on record just if I am proved right 10 years from now.
What happened is the road in "south" doklam heading towards Doka-la which the Chinese wanted to build is still not built. That is a fact. The Chinese might build whatever they want north of the Torsa Nala, but the fact remains the mighty chicom army still does not dare to build that road in south doklam. The Chumbi Valley is a kill zone where India hits China, not the other way round ( rephrase of... "The Sikkim sector is where India attacks China,not the other way round" ).
Sir, just that China tried to takeover some and from Bhutan, and we stopped that. I assumed it to be series because I was following Bhutanese newspapers at the time and their people were frustrated. So I assumed any action taken by us will be some heavy weight move because it was seen by public in China, Bhutan and international as a serious issue since it'll end up with China loosing face. I don know what exactly happened, but I consider it as something signalling a "coming of age" for us in diplomacy. It's been a long time since we were assertive this way. That is why I consider it significant. I wouldnt have considered it significant if we were America because they always do such things, but for us it came out of nowhere.
When is that exercise?
Pak closed air space until July 12. I guess exercise will be around that time.
Air space is going to closed for longer..
Found in Facebook..
In Open source Investigation initialed by Indian Twitterati in the hunt for the wreckage site of the F-16B which was shot down by the Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman while flying his Mig-21Bis, have stumbled upon a video uploaded by a Pakistani Occupied Kashmir based video blogger who in his video uploaded in popular video sharing platform ” Youtube” has shared the possible location of the crash site. POK based video blogger who is obviously scared of the Pakistani military establishments clearly is seen saying that due to privacy issues he won’t be able to show much, but hinted that many locals in the area know what had happened that day and in next clip in the video is seen on top of this house, pointing at a hilltop were alleged wreckage of the F-16B shot down was found.
With help from Geo-tagging and comparison of surroundings shown in the video, it is more or less confirmed that area of F-16B had happened in a town called as Charhoi, which is a city and tehsil of Kotli District, In Pakistani Occupied Kashmir. Residents of Charhoi who had login into twitter that day also had confirmed that a fighter aircraft had crashed in the area and many presumed it was an Indian Mig-21 fighter, which was not the case since the wreckage was found in a different town.
Combined Military Hospital at Jehlum Cantt, Punjab, Pakistan is the closest CMH located near Charhoi area which is 90km away from the F-16B crash site. DG ISPR initially has claimed that Three Indian pilots had ejected over POK and One injured pilot was admitted in Combined Military Hospital and one was in their custody and one pilot had died, but by end of the day they did a speculator U-turn and said only one pilot was in their custody which was Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman and mention of additional two pilots was due to multiple unit reports of the same captured pilot.
Clearly, it can be seen in the video that the resident is so scared that he is not mentioning it in clear words but also requests his viewers and commentators on the video not to brand him as a traitor. I can only pray that he is not picked up Pakistan’s notorious spy agency which has a history of disappearing critics of the Pakistani military establishment.
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In Open source Investigation initialed by Indian Twitterati in the hunt for the wreckage site of the F-16B which was shot down by the Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman while flying his Mig-21Bis, have stumbled upon a video uploaded by a Pakistani Occupied Kashmir based video blogger who in his video uploaded in popular video sharing platform ” Youtube” has shared the possible location of the crash site. POK based video blogger who is obviously scared of the Pakistani military establishments clearly is seen saying that due to privacy issues he won’t be able to show much, but hinted that many locals in the area know what had happened that day and in next clip in the video is seen on top of this house, pointing at a hilltop were alleged wreckage of the F-16B shot down was found.
With help from Geo-tagging and comparison of surroundings shown in the video, it is more or less confirmed that area of F-16B had happened in a town called as Charhoi, which is a city and tehsil of Kotli District, In Pakistani Occupied Kashmir. Residents of Charhoi who had login into twitter that day also had confirmed that a fighter aircraft had crashed in the area and many presumed it was an Indian Mig-21 fighter, which was not the case since the wreckage was found in a different town.
Combined Military Hospital at Jehlum Cantt, Punjab, Pakistan is the closest CMH located near Charhoi area which is 90km away from the F-16B crash site. DG ISPR initially has claimed that Three Indian pilots had ejected over POK and One injured pilot was admitted in Combined Military Hospital and one was in their custody and one pilot had died, but by end of the day they did a speculator U-turn and said only one pilot was in their custody which was Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman and mention of additional two pilots was due to multiple unit reports of the same captured pilot.
Clearly, it can be seen in the video that the resident is so scared that he is not mentioning it in clear words but also requests his viewers and commentators on the video not to brand him as a traitor. I can only pray that he is not picked up Pakistan’s notorious spy agency which has a history of disappearing critics of the Pakistani military establishment.
https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=rF69ZEn4CPE&fbclid=IwAR3S3qglwS6alQHvEHQER-7ap2hl86bGjdAmJ9jEH8oymA-PtvC-iPlTpy4&h=AT0b2Sfb1OJORzysPELieaWHQtuyZjO9Aiz3MYD-NwTXWMMaTBQ1pK77EgqHdr17MLDl9m-YNHk8mP4dmCSaHjwwuqydBYX_f3glMc9WwJpqOfjhWClaL8A6NpGVvXhJGpp6FLuZIpHP3lfvlm8jGwzWofqnpVE6yVJ-n4GfouND99QimDRvfjMxfKgfkpym1QGmh-HMW9ngChS7bknLeReTdu-3fbJcOBsVClzluF5qHmsHGRDWTpULELUkm9BsEAjcStXXgU0BvAdiZ3e0jFyHU3xjY4hrOJrGbKEhpLZR12Clv1kBLW6SjVbtWw7AbrOX514X7SHHkhmx7oT9C-jj1EwPOspAM3GDKcuXBt_g0QLwER0INFcRPHU6p0xon1__d0K4GebR2rEcO6H2o7J2SKsIfm9E1Srh8eQiLqw2wbaWKdkp26NWxLQGJSxZv8q5bNRk_FvXLwVWB71VDoy_Zv30H1UVa8Vzp3utIZCpf4hLVuMCrHMdNBnC_hobjSad4vtRy2IyJaDWkzGPsvaUw9u70x8X55lOxU_KXcYsiaMKI_5fB4l7eYSNIKVpUVGuBym-nr9CjRk-IiEELDNwCZOqvpK3-VEkX55POWvO6ynPI1KWUQB_LnpdPKjiznhwTA
Baba says 12 killed,ISPR accepted 5
Some reports suggest blast was done by JEM due to closure of camps near Loc
Some reports suggest blast was done by JEM due to closure of camps near Loc
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