India - Pakistan Standoff 2019

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Arsalan123 said:
Pakistan will test fire another missile very soon.indian Navy can't even allow it's warships to enter in our waters now.as far as Punjab border fortifications are concerned,they are for aggressive posture.remember after chamb incident,India paid the price on mendhar sector.what you can do,we can do even better.
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Indian Navy doesn't need to enter into Pak waters to destroy Karachi or any other coastal areas of Pakistan. Brahmos from naval ships and mig29k will be enough to wreak havoc on Pakistani coast. We won't be entering Pakistan, it will be Pakistan army doing something stupid in Punjab and will be paying dearly. Indian army and IAF is happy slapping Pakistan from within our borders and you people not accepting that anything happened. That suits us. Also supporting Balochistan Sindh Gilgit-Baltistan adds more fuel to fire. It doesn't drain our economy since we're spending just 2percent of our budget and still we are destroying Pakistani economy and Pak army counting body bags in hundreds. No need to escalate.
This is New age war kill your enemy without getting hurt like America does...
You will realise when it's too late to stop breaking of Pakistan and that's when Pak army will open borders at Punjab and that will be final nail in the coffin for Pakistan.
No IWT too for residual states as treaty will get nullified. All this suits us. Have fun till it lasts....
 
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Please do not divert to water war or anything off topic, that kid is delusional treat him like that instead of feeding him. When his posts goes outside forum guidelines they will be dealt with.

Do not take it upon yourself to correct Pakistani members, they are lost cause, read-smile-ignore, press the report button if the posts are off topic or against forum guidelines.

DO NOT ENGAGE WITH THOSE POSTS.
 
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screambowl said:
Dude, when you take loan from bank you take it for a particular purpose, like buying a commodity. And return the loan in installment with interest. When you fail to return you have to let go that commodity which you bought from loan.

So later after losing the commodity due you boast that oh I was able to return 4 installments so I am proud of my self. No right.

Similarly in war there is a goal to achieve if you lose you can't boast about oh there I gave you a bloody nose, here I gave you a bloody nose after failing in main objective.
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What is your point?
 
Arsalan123 said:
What is your point?
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We are building up the tempo. We have to finish off Chinese opposition to our NSG entry by taking out Pakistan. Once we do that, China will be on our feet. For India to dominate China, Pakistan must die. Its as simple as that.
Plus, we dont want our people, BTW even Pakistan is "OUR PEOPLE" being enslaved by chinese Hans.
 
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Arsalan123 said:
What is your point?
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My point is simple, you can't tell us that on a particular day in a particular sector your army gave Indian army bloody nose when in a nutshell your army lost the main objective. This statement is valid for 1965, 1971, 1999 and 2019 and NEAR FUTURE.
Your army is fooling you from day one Pakistan was created trust me!
 
BlackOpsIndia said:
Please do not divert to water war or anything off topic, that kid is delusional treat him like that instead of feeding him. When his posts goes outside forum guidelines they will be dealt with.

Do not take it upon yourself to correct Pakistani members, they are lost cause, read-smile-ignore, press the report button if the posts are off topic or against forum guidelines.

DO NOT ENGAGE WITH THOSE POSTS.
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Arsalan123 said:
Pakistan will test fire another missile very soon.indian Navy can't even allow it's warships to enter in our waters now.as far as Punjab border fortifications are concerned,they are for aggressive posture.remember after chamb incident,India paid the price on mendhar sector.what you can do,we can do even better.
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What is your "even better" equivalent for bangladesh?
 
vstol Jockey said:
We are building up the tempo. We have to finish off Chinese opposition to our NSG entry by taking out Pakistan. Once we do that, China will be on our feet. For India to dominate China, Pakistan must die. Its as simple as that.
Plus, we dont want our people, BTW even Pakistan is "OUR PEOPLE" being enslaved by chinese Hans.
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Sir please talk about real events that are happening around the world.even Americans are using trade war to inflict damage on china.you said you have to destroy pakistan in order to dominate china.dominate China? Sir Chinese are much ahead of all of us.they work hard,they design projects,they even use Russian weapons to make their own weapons.they are making missiles and Navy ships with unlimited speed.they compare themselves with americans.as far as pakistan is concerned,our rivalry will continue.without talks, nobody can solve problems.
 
Arsalan123 said:
Sir please talk about real events that are happening around the world.even Americans are using trade war to inflict damage on china.you said you have to destroy pakistan in order to dominate china.dominate China? Sir Chinese are much ahead of all of us.they work hard,they design projects,they even use Russian weapons to make their own weapons.they are making missiles and Navy ships with unlimited speed.they compare themselves with americans.as far as pakistan is concerned,our rivalry will continue.without talks, nobody can solve problems.
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Even talks have no effect. It was tried Mushi Navaz & Bajpai.

This will only be solved once Pakistan put their people first instead of a piece of land. It will happen soon as pak will face such situation to choose between.
 
Indian Air Force: Confusion created by IAF officer in ATC being blamed for Mi-17 chopper crash over Srinagar - The Economic Times

So ATC officer erred and we lost 6 people :(

Do read how terrorist sympathizers stole blackbox of chopper and the rich 'Kashmiriyat' carrying cultured jihadis pelted stones on army vehicles who reached the scene of accident.

This is where your tax money goes, to these freeloaders, traitors, to protect and feed these snakes, to provide security when they conduct grand funerals for terriosts, to protect them when they chant anti India slogans not just in Kashmir but in Delhi.

These Islamic supremacists believe so much in Islam that they want shariyat but never hesitate to kill innocent pilgrims or eat from 'haram' money by selling their country or living on tax of others.

Thought things will change after Modi but it's more of same, only cosmetic changes, parents of every terrorist get celebrity status, get interviews while Jawan gets attacked and pelted stones. Irony is these people still get to play victim and others oppressor. I wish once every few months Indian army conduct those things they get accused of, these snakes will start coming to their senses but they are too professional to reply in kind.
 
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BlackOpsIndia said:
Indian Air Force: Confusion created by IAF officer in ATC being blamed for Mi-17 chopper crash over Srinagar - The Economic Times

So ATC officer erred and we lost 6 people :(

Do read how terrorist sympathizers stole blackbox of chopper and the rich 'Kashmiriyat' carrying cultured jihadis pelted stones on army vehicles who reached the scene of accident.

This is where your tax money goes, to these freeloaders, traitors, to protect and feed these snakes, to provide security when they conduct grand funerals for terriosts, to protect them when they chant anti India slogans not just in Kashmir but in Delhi.

These Islamic supremacists believe so much in Islam that they want shariyat but never hesitate to kill innocent pilgrims or eat from 'haram' money by selling their country or living on tax of others.

Thought things will change after Modi but it's more of same, only cosmetic changes, parents of every terrorist get celebrity status, get interviews while Jawan gets attacked and pelted stones. Irony is these people still get to play victim and others oppressor. I wish once every few months Indian army conduct those things they get accused of, these snakes will start coming to their senses but they are too professional to reply in kind.
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There are multiple failures into crash of Mi17 and can't be reduced to confusion of 1 IAF officer. First IFF was switched off of Mi 17, don't know why. Second, Mi17v5 are equipped with Radar warning and missile lock, don't know it functioned or not. Third regarding zombies who pelted stones, it's your fault if you expected anything else. Weren't they celebrating from 14 Feb to 25 Feb all along?

But i wonder why someone took blackbox? They aren't intelligent enough to search for blackbox, identify it and whisk it away in nick of time. What was the rationale behind hiding blackbox? Or was it a scavenger looking for anything in one piece.
 
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There are multiple failures into crash of Mi17 and can't be reduced to confusion of 1 IAF officer. First IFF was switched off of Mi 17, don't know why. Second, Mi17v5 are equipped with Radar warning and missile lock, don't know it functioned or not. Third regarding zombies who pelted stones, it's your fault if you expected anything else. Weren't they celebrating from 14 Feb to 25 Feb all along?

But i wonder why someone took blackbox? They aren't intelligent enough to search for blackbox, identify it and whisk it away in nick of time. What was the rationale behind hiding blackbox? Or was it a scavenger looking for anything in one piece.
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Our friends across the border promise to pay handsomely for interesting Indian Gear

Does any senior member or veteran have an idea on Pakistan's ammo reserves? They seem to be especially trigger happy on the LoC?

@Falcon @vstol Jockey @nair
 
Jaymax said:
Just curious about their stock levels. Their accuracy is so legendary that even hobbyists like me are seldom worried
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Very rarely is effective fire brought about by either side until and unless aggravating circumstances demand it. Even when the so called 'support' for infiltration is 'provided' by Pakistani forces, the fire is usually ineffective and fired for presentation. Rarely will they directly engage an Indian post. The consequences are too devastating for them.

Fire is resorted to to divert attention of troops aligned in counter infiltration posture and it does happen, diversion of attention, at times.

So, I am really not sure what is it that you are enquiring about. War stocks? They shall be running low in 4 days of highly intense war fighting. Give or take a couple of hours on either side.
 
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So, I am really not sure what is it that you are enquiring about. War stocks? They shall be running low in 4 days of highly intense war fighting. Give or take a couple of hours on either side.
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My original question was about War Stocks. They are expending their munitions quite liberally. How long can that go on in current state, considering they will want to keep adequate levels in case there is an actual war
 
Falcon said:
Very rarely is effective fire brought about by either side until and unless aggravating circumstances demand it. Even when the so called 'support' for infiltration is 'provided' by Pakistani forces, the fire is usually ineffective and fired for presentation. Rarely will they directly engage an Indian post. The consequences are too devastating for them.

Fire is resorted to to divert attention of troops aligned in counter infiltration posture and it does happen, diversion of attention, at times.

So, I am really not sure what is it that you are enquiring about. War stocks? They shall be running low in 4 days of highly intense war fighting. Give or take a couple of hours on either side.
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You were saying interesting times ahead, but our defense budget is indicating otherwise...

Will we purchase any new weaponry?
 
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What kind of degraded, despicable life form they must be if they are looking for loot in middle of gory details of burning bodies.

I don't agree with @vstol Jockey when he refers to this lot as civilians. Ironically, F16 pilots were being lynched at same time across LoC.
 
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