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I was a mod on that forum believe it or not, we knew all too well what windjammer's real sources were. Here's a hint: none.
You are wrong, I have seen his 3rd cousin carrying tyre and tube to repair some officers car, how else do you think he get that trash from bin to post on forum?
 
I'm old enough to remember when windjammer used to claim he "just got off the phone with senior members of the Pakistan military" until the mods and admins on that forum told him to stop it or leave. He's full of crap and always has been. When I was on that forum I'd challenge him and he'd shut up quickly, because unlike him I actually have experience in the military, and work in the defence industry and know how things in the real world work. I was a mod on that forum believe it or not, we knew all too well what windjammer's real sources were. Here's a hint: none. He takes info out of context, makes claims with no support asking you to trust him - and the shame is so many do - reposts the same things again, and again, and again, and again, and again... he's not changed one bit, except he knows the mods and admins know his story and sources are BS. Khafee is that forum's other resident liar, but that's a different story.

Everyone on that forum has "sources". Unfortunately they're all in their head. Only a handful, less then 10 members actually have real experience or contacts in their nation's armed forces. It's a shame too, even 4 years ago that forum had some great members contributing. Now it's just trash up and down. Anyone worth anything left years ago. What's left are just clowns.

And in case you're wondering, my name on that forum is "Fenrir".

There are two instances that come to mind:

The first was the 2009-10 insurgent assault on Kamra. A little after the attack is "declared over" Windi comes online, claiming to have spoken to his senior PAF sources who confirmed to him that no AWE&C aircraft was damaged in that "failed attack". A few OSINT guys on our side (OSINT then was very low profile, not aimed at narrative building like now)managed to dig deeper into his sources: turns out his sourcing of "confidential information" consisted of calling up the PaK embassy in London and asking them and taking it at face value. His information about that attack was challenged by his own countrymen later that day who confirmed, from authorative sources on that base itself, that one Erieye was lost and another heavily damaged.

The next were a couple of major breaches of the PDF database by a few guys on our side, somewhere around 2012-2014. The identities of a number of supposedly elite, well connected Pak members were revealed. Nearly all of them were found to be mere enthusiasts with no significant connections. Windi is one of those.
 
I'm old enough to remember when windjammer used to claim he "just got off the phone with senior members of the Pakistan military" until the mods and admins on that forum told him to stop it or leave. He's full of crap and always has been. When I was on that forum I'd challenge him and he'd shut up quickly, because unlike him I actually have experience in the military, and work in the defence industry and know how things in the real world work. I was a mod on that forum believe it or not, we knew all too well what windjammer's real sources were. Here's a hint: none. He takes info out of context, makes claims with no support asking you to trust him - and the shame is so many do - reposts the same things again, and again, and again, and again, and again... he's not changed one bit, except he knows the mods and admins know his story and sources are BS. Khafee is that forum's other resident liar, but that's a different story.

Everyone on that forum has "sources". Unfortunately they're all in their head. Only a handful, less then 10 members actually have real experience or contacts in their nation's armed forces. It's a shame too, even 4 years ago that forum had some great members contributing. Now it's just trash up and down. Anyone worth anything left years ago. What's left are just clowns.

And in case you're wondering, my name on that forum is "Fenrir".
I appreciate your post.looks like you are a very old member on PDF and knows PDF much better.yes they recently unban khafee because of his fight with Shia friends related to Arab Iran tension.
 
If a short war happens with Pakistan, make sure to take kartarpur or abrogate indus water treaty. Or trade kartarpur for renewal of IWT. We made a big mistake by signing IWT without any expiry date. Pakistanis refer to downstream water flow from India as "hamara panni" / Pakistans water. They genuinely believe that it's their right and not any magnanimity by India. Which country facing droughts itself will agree to 70% water share for hostile neighbor?

Although it will take us more than a decade to shift water flow but backing out of treaty has its own psychological effect. Let Pakistan become desert like Arabia whom they worship as God.

Man, I can not even begin to write on this.. But then, I suspect, you have heard my answer earlier too. In a different avtaar perhaps?

What are your readings of the Geo political scenario in the immediate region? Quite frankly I am more concerned about internal security than external threats. However, Pakistan's Military seems to be doing a lot of coverups and placing unheard of restriction on media there, are they goinfg belly up or just usual day in the Militray dictatorship of Pakistan?

I am looking more closely at actions of US.

Internal security, is not going to be much of an issue. Society is going to undergo the effects of the style of political campaigning as has been happening over the past decade, especially with the plank the present dispensation has chosen to remain on.

But then, can one blame them for this? The groundwork has existed for a long time. No rationale holds in majority being a minority in a democracy ...
 
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Man, I can not even begin to write on this.. But then, I suspect, you have heard my answer earlier too. In a different avtaar perhaps?

Hellfire you mean? Nope, got banned too early. I wish I have been there with you, Joe shearer and infamous parsi vsdoc:p
 
Guys, seriously, stop discussing the other forum and stick to the topic.
Sir can you please tell us whether this jaguar attack on Pakistani radar and communication post is true or not? And sir can you kindly analyse recent situation.pakistan recently told India to remove fighter jets from forward air bases.from this statement,it looks like the mood in new Delhi is to try for another air battle with advantage of new missiles for iaf. Do you think another air battle is a possibility? What are the chances of escalation? Also consider kulbhushan case announcement and it's impact on already tense relations.
 
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Sir can you please tell us whether this jaguar attack on Pakistani radar and communication post is true or not? And sir can you kindly analyse recent situation.pakistan recently told India to remove fighter jets from forward air bases.from this statement,it looks like the mood in new Delhi is to try for another air battle with advantage of new missiles for iaf. Do you think another air battle is a possibility? What are the chances of escalation? Also consider kulbhushan case announcement and it's impact on already tense relations.
Not just another air battle, India will need a couple air battles to take out all the pakistani pigeons
 
it looks like the mood in new Delhi is to try for another air battle with advantage of new missiles for iaf. Do you think another air battle is a possibility? What are the chances of escalation? Also consider kulbhushan case announcement and it's impact on already tense relations.

I tell you something which is , neither India nor Pakistan will escalate any more and will go back to old modus operandi of proxy war. That's it.

Because Saudis Chinese and many others have invested money in India and Pakistan and they have pressurized not to escalate. Thy even intervened on 27th when India was ready to launch missile on Pakistan. What do you think what stopped us? It's the international pressure.
 
I tell you something which is , neither India nor Pakistan will escalate any more and will go back to old modus operandi of proxy war. That's it.

Because Saudis Chinese and many others have invested money in India and Pakistan and they have pressurized not to escalate. Thy even intervened on 27th when India was ready to launch missile on Pakistan. What do you think what stopped us? It's the international pressure.
I agree but let's agree on one single point.another blast and a limited war.i am sure there will be limited war.
 
I agree but let's agree on one single point.another blast and a limited war.i am sure there will be limited war.

The concept of limited war is no more required for India. It was only valid until some people feared the nuclear blackmail by Pakistan. Pakistan does one more stupidity and India can hit Pakistan anywhere now.
 
The concept of limited war is no more required for India. It was only valid until some people feared the nuclear blackmail by Pakistan. Pakistan does one more stupidity and India can hit Pakistan anywhere now.
So basically you are saying that limited war not a possibility but a coordinated attack like balakot is the new normal.i think this is what you are trying to say.
 
So basically you are saying that limited war not a possibility but a coordinated attack like balakot is the new normal.i think this is what you are trying to say.

Your military is aware what is going to come if something like Pulwama happens, and they actually want it to happen so that India gets involved in war and drowns it's economy which basically not Pakistan's plan but Chinese plan. Pakistan is just a puppet and a war venue. This is the reason Balakot was struck because it runs near the Chinese invested money corridor.
 
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Sir can you please tell us whether this jaguar attack on Pakistani radar and communication post is true or not? And sir can you kindly analyse recent situation.pakistan recently told India to remove fighter jets from forward air bases.from this statement,it looks like the mood in new Delhi is to try for another air battle with advantage of new missiles for iaf. Do you think another air battle is a possibility? What are the chances of escalation? Also consider kulbhushan case announcement and it's impact on already tense relations.

Until we get his reply,

I think in general, oversized military of Pakistan is made bleed the resources of Pakistan. By keeping the borders hot 🔥.

In between any terror attack in India, we try to achieve specific objectives.

Meanwhile we also oil up our war machinery.

This resource depletion takes you to Chinese door step.. Which they are more thank happy to oblige. ( east India company laughing all the way)

Very soon you maybe paying taxes to china.. - default loan - Chinese take over - public anger

This way the bonhomie between Pakistan and china will be broken internally.
 
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Until we get his reply,

I think in general, oversized military of Pakistan is made bleed the resources of Pakistan. By keeping the borders hot 🔥.

In between any terror attack in India, we try to achieve specific objectives.

Meanwhile we also oil up our war machinery.

This resource depletion takes you to Chinese door step.. Which they are more thank happy to oblige. ( east India company laughing all the way)

Very soon you maybe paying taxes to china.. - default loan - Chinese take over - public anger

This way the bonhomie between Pakistan and china will be broken internally.
Exactly thats what most of the so called pakistan's friends are looking forward to. A weak pakistan will always be dependent on them.
 
I think our objective is to reduce Pakistan below the level of Bangladesh ,so that they should take dictation from India and really becomes subservient to the Indian states .

We can't allow another country apart from china,which is less than one tenth of our economy and less than one 6th the size to punch above it's weight.


According to this theory ,attack or no attack on Indian soil Pakistan is going to suffer in the future and it's wings will be curtailed.its a given fact. So it will be projected as an outcast both politically and militarily .

It's also fit with the USA doctrine to prepare India as a hedge against china.

Pakistan has started following Indian dictates and now it has to be seen to which level we can squeeze them,can we sqeeze them to the point where they will even accept it in front of their public or it will be done gradually.


All those bravado of pak army will be going to be crushed ,funds will be dried,their exports will be replaced even at the cost of loss, sanction are going to come sooner or later ,they will be even devoid of the fig leaf.
Sooner or later 3rd front in the form of Iran will be opened,with China taking over assets of Pakistan due to their inability to pay the debt it will be a complete circle
 
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