India - Pakistan Standoff 2019

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STEPHEN COHEN said:
Ok PEOPLE and Arm Chair Warriors / Gladiators

Please Answer My Question

How many Casualties will INDIA suffer if we
Try to Capture POK
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I believe if you attack only on our kashmir then we might successfully defend.do you open another front? This is one critical question.defending is easy when you know that enemy will attack only at particular place.
 
What I feel is that AFTER seeing Pakistani
MELTDOWN on Article 370, Indians are
Feeling Elated and Ecstatic

Because Pakistani Grief is our Joy

And there is no desire for War at the Moment

There is No Anger , Nothing to Avenge
Like after Pulwama

This HAPPY feeling will last till the Next Terrorist attack

Right Now we cannot Convince our people
About War and Casualties
 
Is war a possibility or not? A limited war or multiple fronts? From indian army chief statement, it's clear that they want.can a bomb blast trigger a limited war? If a blast happens in India,what we can expect? Air Superiority is necessary before moving troops into enemy territory.can we expect air Superiority from iaf? What if paf turn around things?
 
Guys Guys War this , War that. We will win easily in days etc etc is just paper talks and not reality. Never ever underestimate your enemy be it Pakistan ,China or anyone. Remember Pak armed forces are as old and experienced as Indian armed forces , both have same origin. Pak amred forces is the only institution in Pakistan with its foundations strong and stable. They are certainly not pushovers or paper tigers.
So its quite easy to go in the flow and pray for war when war itself is not easy and is quite harsh.
Pray war will be the extreme last option. Both sides will suffer.
 
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Deathstar said:
Guys Guys War this , War that. We will win easily in days etc etc is just paper talks and not reality. Never ever underestimate your enemy be it Pakistan ,China or anyone. Remember Pak armed forces are as old and experienced as Indian armed forces , both have same origin. Pak amred forces is the only institution in Pakistan with its foundations strong and stable. They are certainly not pushovers or paper tigers.
So its quite easy to go in the flow and pray for war when war itself is not easy and is quite harsh.
Pray war will be the extreme last option. Both sides will suffer.
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Actually if 36 Rafales had been Fully Operational Today , Then it would have made our task much easier
 
randomradio said:
All that's only in case war goes on for years and years and people get tired of reading and watching how many people died in the conflict in newspapers and on TVs, made worse when anti-Indian, anti-establishment journalists or anti-war start making up their own stories about the conflict.

Any Indo-Pak war to retake PoJK is going to be really quick for such things to matter.

Indians are blase to casualties due to the large number of insurgencies in the country anyway. And when it comes to dealing with Pakistan, the average expectation will be for the army to do better and reduce casualties rather than simply stop the war itself.

The way I see it, international pressure will be greater than domestic pressure.
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One Abhinandan who was captured brought
The February Conflict to an Abrupt Halt

The Opposition was Blaming Modi.for his Capture and Planning Candle Light Marches

Above all we have NOT factored in the financial and material Costs

Will people Be HAPPY if OIL prices are Raised by Govt
 
Things like Abhinandan's capture was not a big deal till media started crying. This is not the first time POW was taken. It was the introverts who started shouting bring back abhinandan. This media and social media is used by Pakistan to halt India's action.

This is why I say and I always say, there will not be any war. Pakistan will wait till Modi steps down and then they will strike India and this time they wont stop. This will happen and people of India will shout trahimam trahimam!

I have no expectation from our people when it comes to safeguarding freedom.
 
screambowl said:
Things like Abhinandan's capture was not a big deal till media started crying. This is not the first time POW was taken. It was the introverts who started shouting bring back abhinandan. This media and social media is used by Pakistan to halt India's action.

This is why I say and I always say, there will not be any war. Pakistan will wait till Modi steps down and then they will strike India and this time they wont stop. This will happen and people of India will shout trahimam trahimam!

I have no expectation from our people when it comes to safeguarding freedom.
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By introverts do you mean the raita wingers whose scope of conflict is only limited to able to write pkmkb on the internet for the ego boost? I have seen plenty on the other forum
 
screambowl said:
Things like Abhinandan's capture was not a big deal till media started crying. .
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Abhinandan was not a POW, and it was not a war we were fighting. Indian citizens, and India in general did not know what to make out of the spectacle. First, came the Pulwama attack. Then, India punched back with Balakot. Then, Pakistan tried to punch back the next day. Unlike 1965, 1971 or 1999, there was no defined mission like defending or recovering one's territory, or liberating an enemy territory. The only thing we were made to expect was that Pulwama would be avenged. And, when you frame the Indian response around revenge, Indian appetite for POWs or casualties will be naturally less.
If the Modi government has decided to retake Pok or its parts, they have to do a better job of convincing Indians as to what we fight for and why. Just telling we will take back Pok again and again sounds like hot air. Get serious.. tell people that we need to occupy akhnoor, Haji Pir,Gilgit.. so on to thwart Pakistan and China's plans to take JK away from India. Tell this again and again so that it sounds natural, just like ghazwa-e-hind sounds natural to Pakistanis.. Then, Indians will see any POWs or losses as necessary sacrifice...
 
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randomradio said:
The Americans have blocked delivery of attack helicopters to Pakistan, both AH-1Z and T-129.

Mirage V. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
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I know that, but the pattern of procurement which needs to be seen what they will get or not that's different issue. Why suddenly they started procurement? They won't procure without any specific reason.
 
screambowl said:
Yes they are part of that, and most of them are from BJP IT cell I guess. And others as well who right now think India can actually take POK. It's not possible. We can't take POK right now we do not have capability and that is my resentment. I shout because we do not have specific goal what exactly to do with Pakistan. Are you fighting to stop terrorism or want to retake the territory.
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Its also possible many are from CONGI (+left and other allies) IT cell
BJP does has a clear cut goal it seems. To reclaim POK and to break Pakistan. Not sure in which order though.
 
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