He is talking. About intense warfare in Punjab and Rajasthan... Also in Kargil if we were authoriazed to cross loc , the peaks would have been easier to scale.. And war along LOC is not about scaling and capturing each and every peak... Capturing a few strategic points will cut off the supply lines to those peaks and force the Pakistanis' to surrender
India - Pakistan Standoff 2019
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Yes but you are forgetting one thing. They can do the same thing to us ! We too have a few strategic points that they can take and cause trouble for us. They are not sitting there wearing bangles. They too are a hardened force. Our forces are definitely strong but being overconfident will be our weakness. 4-5 days is just not happening. Things always go wrong in wars.
Take Vietnam war for example. Despite America's tech and numerical superiority, they could not defeat Vietnam in 19 years. Same incase of Russia vs Afghanistan. None of these countries had nuclear weapons or even proper air/naval forces and we are talking about Pakistan, which has both nukes and forces.
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Yes, this is what our friend has failed to understand and grasp.
They tried that in 1965 and also 1971. But we prevailed. Now we are in much superior position.
Yes we did, but 1965 lasted 6+ months and 1971 2 weeks (easier to break a country that is already physically broken).
And yes, we will prevail next 1 too most probably. However, this time there are nukes involved. Damage will be extremely high.
Reminds me of when we tried to capture siachen post from Pak. One time our guns froze and couldn't fire. Other time the battery of radio died so couldn't call for fire support and had to withdraw.
Things don't always go as they are supposed to. We all saw that on 27 Feb.
Exactly. This is called reasonable thinking.
I remember my father's eldest brother telling me about 1965 war when they were hit by their own artillery while being sent on a mission to capture some Pakistani post due to which they could not win. Many things can go wrong.
We already have a lot of things going wrong . Planes are falling out of sky and we already are low in no. Shells are blowing up in their barrels. And now critical equipment of our ship in construction got stolen right under our Navy's nose and they didn't know that it happened until two weeks later on.
The Americans have always suffered from one problem: Not enough boots on the ground.
We do not have that problem.
We are enough civilized and tolerant to hear from our critics, hell even we hear from enemies.
At-least not on this forum I believe anyone hasn't been banned for having different narrative or opinion when compared to majority..
April 1965 in Kutch was a skirmish .. not a war... The actual war lasted about 1.5 months... The war in Punjab lasted only 17 days...
Now with 24X7 news coverage, if a large number of soldiers are KIA, then the GoI will have a PR disaster.
Actually depends on the outcome of the war... If we lose a thousand troops... while just firing back and forth on the loc it is a disaster. It is not if we end up capturing significant land...
Winning against us in 4 days is almost impossible.sir you are invading us and not somalia.even Somalia can fight guerilla war for their survival.most important point is air force.both will Target each other and I think both have nuclear tipped cruise missiles.damage on the ground will be massive and war will stop.i think ceasefire will be implemented in case of all out war and ceasefire will start probably on 3rd or 4th day.
I know when indians talk about detecting our nuclear weapons and destroying them before they can take off.this is also practically impossible.even America can't defend itself from ballistic missile attack despite all types of defensive mechanism.there is always chance that 10 to 20 percent missiles reach the Target.
All in all,war will be destructive and paf and iaf will fight for air Superiority before actual land invasion.
I would like to draw attention of our indian members towards paf.we are making 26 jf-17 per year and when block 3 will enter production,we will probably make 10 block 3 in first year of production.we understand the importance of numerical superiority and difference between iaf and paf is not very big.this is one big advantage and for jf-17,we can use any missile.pl-15 will be used in block 3 which means effective counter to indian Astra,derby,meteor.
All in all,grabbing enemy land is not possible without thousands of death,probably 40 to 50 thousand.i don't think that anybody wants this type of war.
And I forget about navies.indian navy is strong and big and I accept it but blockade looks impossible now.with the introduction of supersonic antiship missile,blockade looks practically impossible.pakistan have two types of anti ship.one is long range Sam specially designed to Target large fleet,other can be fired from jf-17 so all in all,very difficult and destructive war.also nobody can stop brahmos because of its speed but kindly give attention to babur which is US tomahawk cruise missile.it can make it's own way to Target enemy.it is very intelligent missile.
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I give equal respect to indian weapons and massive indian army,air Force and Navy but sir this is totally different time.destruction will stop war and my vote goes to ceasefire.
Chill its not easy for both sides to defeat the other without massive damage. We will not attack unless Pakistan is the aggressor. Any terror attack will be retaliated
by localised military action with every loss of a solider revenged. We have already revenged Pulwama casualties. Game of attacks and revenges will continue.
Tbh we don't need to fight wars against Pakistan unless you guys force us to fight.
Even IK admitted that we cant attack India ,so there goes any chance of war happening.
If something unfortunate happen in India,indian air Force will again Target something,probably a building or something.i don't think that they Target military or air Force base.iaf will attack again,paf will respond.someone might lost jets.it will escalate and it will stop just like February events.i don't think about all out war or even attack on Azad Kashmir.
I know one thing that iaf tried to attack bahawalpur building but paf was awake so no attack but it's on iaf radar and I am sure they really want attack bahawalpur so let's see.it will be like Feb events.
I believe another iaf attack on some different location is possible.this will be like Feb events.this will escalate and stop.i think this cycle will continue for a long time and it will cost us lots of money but I hope friends will come to rescue.i agree that Pakistan is facing problems but it's because of people who are running our government.i am not targeting Khan but his ministers.i think we need a change.
I know one thing that iaf tried to attack bahawalpur building but paf was awake so no attack but it's on iaf radar and I am sure they really want attack bahawalpur so let's see.it will be like Feb events.
Well honestly we dont care what happens inside Pakistan tbh. We only care about cross border terrorism.
Enemy like Pakistan is actually useful for us. It helps us to keep our country united. Same goes for Pakistan as well. Enemy like India keeps u united
Actually that was the feint. The diversion was meant there alone.
Bhawalpur was never the target. Precisely like no point in eliminating Dawood Ibrahim.
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