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Yes... But then, was it launched at an elevated trajectory, because even that would be a giveaway of the missile's range to US and other observers...

Assured. Message was given.operationalization is a different issue.
 
ERW is not different subject.

Oh they are. We are not discussing Nuclear Physics & applicability of technology into WMDs.

Your adversary is an idiot who might have put 10-20kT on so called tactical nukes.

The adversary, unlike your informed post here, is not an idiot. While 20 kt aka the nominal bomb, is taken as a reference, advances in technical know how has allowed the adversary to reduce yields to achieve better calibration of options for tactical employment. A tactical strike will always aim to exploit a breach in offensive/defensive forces of the user's opposing forces. Aim of the employing commander would be lesser fallout, containment of effect & exploitation of situation arising thereof.

India did conduct a linear implosion type detonation but as one is unaware of the data whether it is achievable on 155mm for India it's doubtful for 208mm definitely more than 20kT. This is why I said 2-20kt.

Again, stop extrapolating your own inexperience, reliance on theoretical knowledge & deductions to try & disregard information as being forwarded from someone who was a user & knows precisely what the topic entails. As mentioned earlier, there is a member here who was very much a part ... so, until and unless you are that member, and I know it isn't, I suggest, either accept the limited tidbits being put out, or ignore & stop posting on the topic itself.




This is a discussion thread I guess where opinions are welcomed and from day one my opinions and predictions are coming true :p may be it's astrology or whatsoever. I said there won't be any war except some routine CFV , I said Chadrayan would crash land it happened so, well the things are as it is as they were after 27th.

Stop posting tripe.

You need a break. You could not have guessed you will be given one.
 
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Didn't get this... You mean Surya was fired in a high altitude trajectory (lofted) or a depressed trajectory?

US has excellent capabilities. 2 - 3 decades ahead of China & us. Howsoever the test was done (details unknown to me), US is aware that we have a platform ready. But not deployed. Neither is there an intent to. Right now, Agni 5 is what is being concentrated upon in terms of training & streamling processes
 
India did conduct a linear implosion type detonation but as one is unaware of the data whether it is achievable on 155mm for India it's doubtful for 208mm definitely more than 20kT. This is why I said 2-20kt.

India at this juncture will not be throwing away fissile material (given yield curve at this size) like this. It is not a priority. The sub kiloton tests were placeholder blocks one can say.

Linear implosion verification is much more related to warhead volume optimisation, rather than having some extreme 155mm case as objective.
 
Thanks for an insightful analysis.

Personally, Kfour did a fine job in its operational tests. As for the bold, query was sent with answer received as "No comments".

Sorry. That is it.

Someday at your leisure show your contact this

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Anyways on my part I am 101% confirmed and hence the reason why I was surprised. The reason for my asking you , was to get additional tidbit if any.

Infact Kfour is full of surprises , I have a pic which shows a interstage with 4 lateral / radial ( exhaust flush with the body ) heavy duty thrusters . IMO that interstage section packs more than enough punch to send the missile into a ballet performance worthy of any top notch Russian ballerina.
 
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This is a discussion thread I guess where opinions are welcomed and from day one my opinions and predictions are coming true :p may be it's astrology or whatsoever. I said there won't be any war except some routine CFV , I said Chadrayan would crash land it happened so, well the things are as it is as they were after 27th.


Actually, my cousin is a betting man. Our regular waiter, Arnab ( no, not the newsanger- sorry Keralites, it's not him) who makes our drink in the club had the same to say - Chandrayaan won't accomplish its mission, India won't avenge Balakote, India won't get past the semis in WC that's world Cup 50/50 in cricket, etc.

I never knew you're our waiter.

Hello, Arnab / Aurangzeb from Khulna.
 
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Why hasn't 10k SSBM aka Surya been reported about?

No, I mean someone else should have picked up multiple explosions and reported it, right?

Surya's a whole different thing, the govt can keep it under wraps. But a nuclear explosion, there would have been reports by now of 2 extra explsions, especially from foreign sources. Or of course the explosions were really small and couldn't be detected, like the Davy Crockett.

Not doubting what you said, just interested in knowing how and why this went unreported.
 
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You mean ICBM Surya ? Was it tested, because an ICBM launch would not have escaped anybody... Although, I understand we need to have a true ICBM, in case America resorts to nuclear Blackmail...

An ICBM can be tested for any range. Plus the different stages can also be tested individually on other missiles.

A full range test is only to send the message out, which we don't need to.
 
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An ICBM can be tested for any range. Plus the different stages can also be tested individually on other missiles.

A full range test is only to send the message out, which we don't need to.
All initial ICBMs were tested with near full ranges by the US & ex USSR. What the other N powers got was fully validated products not just designs. I include Britain, France, China & Israel in it but not India. The only country now doing so is NK or DPRK.
 
All initial ICBMs were tested with near full ranges by the US & ex USSR. What the other N powers got was fully validated products not just designs. I include Britain, France, China & Israel in it but not India. The only country now doing so is NK or DPRK.

We don't have enemies to show off the full range.

And there is no need to test a missile to its full range to know it works anyway.

Even N Korea hasn't tested their missiles to their full ranges. This is what they are doing.
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Pakistan is aiming/succeeded in some cases to buy/lease equipment/support/training from private contractors in Russia and former Soviet states. The government backed Russian Defence Companies did made offers and presentations but the procurement cost and after sale service cost was deemed too high by Pakistan.

As of now Heavy Machine Guns, RPGs, Mines, Soviet era ATGMs have been acquired from private russian contractors.

The only direct purchase from Russian Government has been 9 Mi35 (Soviet Era airframes refurbished to Mi35M standards , not new build) and 6 Mi17 (2 new airframe and 4 refurbished)

AK630M, RD93 are pruchased via China.
 
Pakistan is aiming/succeeded in some cases to buy/lease equipment/support/training from private contractors in Russia and former Soviet states. The government backed Russian Defence Companies did made offers and presentations but the procurement cost and after sale service cost was deemed too high by Pakistan.

As of now Heavy Machine Guns, RPGs, Mines, Soviet era ATGMs have been acquired from private russian contractors.

The only direct purchase from Russian Government has been 9 Mi35 (Soviet Era airframes refurbished to Mi35M standards , not new build) and 6 Mi17 (2 new airframe and 4 refurbished)

AK630M, RD93 are pruchased via China.

Whats their experience been with the serviceability rate. We had trouble keeping Russian stuff flying even with our experience. I'd expect Pakistanis to have an even rougher time.
 
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Whats their experience been with the serviceability rate. We had trouble keeping Russian stuff flying even with our experience. I'd expect Pakistanis to have an even rougher time.
They don't actually have anything major from Soviets/Russians.

They have 60+ fleet of Mi17s . China since 2002 atleast has continued to support their Mi17 fleet. Repair and overhaul too. They hardly bought more than 12 Mi17s from Russia directly.

And second major Russian equipment is RD93.
For that, I don't think you will need any hints. Our Bisons fly more. That's all I will say.
 
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