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CBN thought he would pull wool over BJP eyes after getting Packages and depart in Election year? He was forced to play his hand early. Do you think CBN will get more votes out of this fiasco?

Here is what Telugu people think about CBN :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
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ప్రత్యేక హోదా అనే సినిమాలో అద్బుతమైన నటనకి చంద్రగిరి చంద్రాలు సార్ ని వరించిన ఆస్కార్ అవార్ద్. ( For Amazing acting in a Movie called ' The fight for Special Status' The Oscar went to Chandragiri Chandrudu as Best Actor, Some of the best acting highlights of the movie are)

నటనలో హైలేట్స్.( Acting highlights)
1) ప్రత్యేక హోదా 5 కాదు 10 ఏళ్ళు కావాలి. (Need 10 years for Special status not 5 years)
2) ప్రత్యేక హోదా 10 కాదు 15 ఏళ్ళు కావాలి. (Special Status can be achieved after 15 years not in 10 years)
3) ప్రత్యేక హోదా ఏపికి సంజీవిని, హోదతోనే ఏపి అభివ్రుద్ది. (Special status is like Sanjeevani( life giver) to AP,will help AP develop a lot)
4) ప్రత్యేక హోదా వేస్ట్. (Special status is a Waste)
5) ప్రత్యేక హోదా అంటే జైలుకే. { If Anyone utters a word about Special status, they will be in Jail)
6) ప్రత్యేక హోదా వల్ల లాభాలు లేవు.{ There are no Special benefits in special status)
7) ప్రత్యేక హోదా అంటే మీకు తెలియదు.(You people don't know what is special status)0
8) ప్రత్యేక హోదా వల్ల వచ్చే లాభాలు చెప్పండి ( Please list out the benefits you accrue by getting special status)
9) ప్యాకేజి బెస్ట్..ప్రత్యేక హోదా వేష్ట్.( Packages are best, Special status is a waste)
10) ప్యాకేజి వేస్ట్..ప్రత్యేక హోదా బెస్ట్ .(Package deals are a waste, Special status is the best)
11) ప్రత్యేక హోదా కోసం రాజీపడని పోరాటం. (Will not Compromise myself for Special status, will fight till the end)
12) ప్రత్యేక హోద కోసం నాలుగేళ్ళ పోరాటం. (Will fight 4 years for Special status)

See the flip flops and constant demands and changes of AP politicians , they won't stick to a point. Will compromise for Money.

Lol!! CBN is doing exactly what he needs to do. This has noting to with 'special status', Modi was ready to give him the money without the status. CBN cut his ties with BJP because he realized that in 2019 they'll become a liability for him and lose him votes. He further pulled a no confidence motion knowing fully well he'll lose it to show the people of ANdhra that he has completely cut ties with them.
 
Age old tradition of spit and run. They upheld the TT thanks to the brute majority they enjoyed in Parliament over ruling the SC over the Shah Bano verdict and in order to balance things out threw open the gates of the RAM Janmabhoomi temple .

More than 30 years later , the Indian people not having recovered from those twin blows now faces another onslaught in the form of the Lingayats being declared a minority , with the gutless CM tossing the ball in the centre's court.

The more things change the more they remain the same .

you talk such biiiig biiiig things.
 
CBN thought he would pull wool over BJP eyes after getting Packages and depart in Election year? He was forced to play his hand early. Do you think CBN will get more votes out of this fiasco?

Here is what Telugu people think about CBN :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
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ప్రత్యేక హోదా అనే సినిమాలో అద్బుతమైన నటనకి చంద్రగిరి చంద్రాలు సార్ ని వరించిన ఆస్కార్ అవార్ద్. ( For Amazing acting in a Movie called ' The fight for Special Status' The Oscar went to Chandragiri Chandrudu as Best Actor, Some of the best acting highlights of the movie are)

నటనలో హైలేట్స్.( Acting highlights)
1) ప్రత్యేక హోదా 5 కాదు 10 ఏళ్ళు కావాలి. (Need 10 years for Special status not 5 years)
2) ప్రత్యేక హోదా 10 కాదు 15 ఏళ్ళు కావాలి. (Special Status can be achieved after 15 years not in 10 years)
3) ప్రత్యేక హోదా ఏపికి సంజీవిని, హోదతోనే ఏపి అభివ్రుద్ది. (Special status is like Sanjeevani( life giver) to AP,will help AP develop a lot)
4) ప్రత్యేక హోదా వేస్ట్. (Special status is a Waste)
5) ప్రత్యేక హోదా అంటే జైలుకే. { If Anyone utters a word about Special status, they will be in Jail)
6) ప్రత్యేక హోదా వల్ల లాభాలు లేవు.{ There are no Special benefits in special status)
7) ప్రత్యేక హోదా అంటే మీకు తెలియదు.(You people don't know what is special status)0
8) ప్రత్యేక హోదా వల్ల వచ్చే లాభాలు చెప్పండి ( Please list out the benefits you accrue by getting special status)
9) ప్యాకేజి బెస్ట్..ప్రత్యేక హోదా వేష్ట్.( Packages are best, Special status is a waste)
10) ప్యాకేజి వేస్ట్..ప్రత్యేక హోదా బెస్ట్ .(Package deals are a waste, Special status is the best)
11) ప్రత్యేక హోదా కోసం రాజీపడని పోరాటం. (Will not Compromise myself for Special status, will fight till the end)
12) ప్రత్యేక హోద కోసం నాలుగేళ్ళ పోరాటం. (Will fight 4 years for Special status)

See the flip flops and constant demands and changes of AP politicians , they won't stick to a point. Will compromise for Money.

He tried his best to save the alliance with BJP all the above flipflops are taken accordingly to save th alliance but BJP showed its true colors ny ditiching TDP in every way possible.

You should stop worrying about TDP, TDP has future only until CBN leads it. Start worrying about Modi in 2019 and pray that BJP can atleast win 230 seats anything less we are looking at new PM. That wont be Amit Shah for sure.
 
the salami slicing of Hindus and Inda has continued unabated.

1) take up the thekedari of all govt run businesses, nationalize everything in the name of socialism
2) have tight control of manufacturing,mining, distribution networks with license raj
3) declare people as "backward" or "forward" based on centuries old practices and hand out carrots of "reservation" in return for power.
4) create divides among people and dangle the "special category" status to people, states, communities based on caste, creed, religion, language or whatever way possible to separate people


question from a brahmin outcast like me: if my grandparents parents treated you grandparents parents badly, how will me giving up my merit for you reprieve that?

question from a state without "special category" status: who is Manmohan singh to declare that he will give special status to AP? shouldnt the classification of who gets to have the special status or not be based on facts/numbers/rules?

question from a Hindu to Karnataka govt: who are you to declare someone to be of one religion or not? are you a body that determines what is each religion? does our constitution give the govt powers to determine who is a hindu and who is not? who is a Muslim and who is not?

question from an Indian to another Indian: I am trying to develop more and more unity with you so we can come together and make a better life for us all. this continuous wedge of norht south, lingayat or not, hindu or not is being driven into us so the guys holding power keep us always in squabbles.
 
Lol!! CBN is doing exactly what he needs to do. This has noting to with 'special status', Modi was ready to give him the money without the status. CBN cut his ties with BJP because he realized that in 2019 they'll become a liability for him and lose him votes. He further pulled a no confidence motion knowing fully well he'll lose it to show the people of ANdhra that he has completely cut ties with them.
You are a dumbNextdoor, you don't know what Telugu people think or have you become a ICCHADARI Telugu Naidu now? like you become a Chola or a Nair.:ROFLMAO:
 
so even to you it is clear that the BJP is going to fall off the cliff in 2019. Well, I guess it is too obvious to deny it.
Been around long enough to know wheat from chaff. In 2015 after losses in Delhi & Bihar , the Modi magic evaporated or so MSM wrote . This was followed by Bengal & Kerala. In 2017 , UP happened and MSM declared that inspite of demonetization , if the BJP won UP the way they won it , 2019 would be a formality . Then came Gujarat . In between, with the exception of Punjab , the Congress & it's supporters out here especially have been claiming one moral victory after another . Especially in Goa and the NE.

Do tell me ,assuming Modi loses in 2019 , does that translate into a Congress win ? Are you about to claim another moral victory in 2019?

P.S - This must be some record .6 posts to go and no Gauxxxx. Those testosterone suppressants are sure working well. Congratulations .You've all but managed to suppress the itch. Another moral victory ?
 
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He tried his best to save the alliance with BJP all the above flipflops are taken accordingly to save th alliance but BJP showed its true colors ny ditiching TDP in every way possible.

You should stop worrying about TDP, TDP has future only until CBN leads it. Start worrying about Modi in 2019 and pray that BJP can atleast win 230 seats anything less we are looking at new PM. That wont be Amit Shah for sure.
Flip flops are to protect his assets not Alliance, TDP future is what Andhra people call it already 'just google 'Andhra Pappu' , you will get images of pappu (Dal) and Nara Lokesh' This is the sentiment most of Rayalaseema and AP people share, call him Pappu Gadu, CBN is grooming Nara Lokesh as CM of AP, face it how long will IT Take for people to realize there are alternatives to TDP. I would have appreciated if a grass root worker of TDP was made head, that ain't happening its a family dynasty now.

I also saw this phenomenon that some people want BJP without Modi in 2019, I like to be frank, BJP won because of Modi and all soldiers on ground were pumped with enthusiasm at getting such a leader. its not everyday you get such selfless leaders. Just watch out TDP might become another Dynasty like Congress.
Rest assured how things will play out, there are also emerging options in AP.
 
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taking a look at the possible third front coalition:
1) Mamta (TMC)
2) K Chandrashekhar Rao (KCR) (Telangana Rashtra Samiti)
3) Mayawati (BSP)
4) Akhilesh/Mulayam (SP)
5) Owaisi (MIM)
6) maybe ShardPwar (NCP)
7) YS Jagan Reddy (YSRCP)
8) Chandra Babu (TDP)

take a good look at that line up.

none of those parties have a stable, upcoming, budding second level leaders apart from their own kith and kin. they do not let stronger leaders join the party or let anyone strong emerge form the party. in case of Akhilesh - he split form his father. Chadrababu split from NTR, Jaga split from Congress.

Those "leaders" do no want to share their power with people form their own party/ideology (if those parties even have an ideology) -d o you really think they will share power with each other?

the Maha Gatbandhan experiment failed miserably in Bihar - now they are trying for a Pan-India Maha-GatBandhan. something that dint last in a single state - will it last over an entire country?

let me put it even clearly: the BJP with a clear majority finds it hard to go through a belligerent congress fillibuster - will a fractious coalition with multiple levels of break points withstand the fillibuster power of a strong opposition (in this case- the BJP)?

the only alternative I can see is a congress emerging out of the Gandhi Dynasty. this needs to happen sooner than later for a healthy democracy.
 
taking a look at the possible third front coalition:
1) Mamta (TMC)
2) K Chandrashekhar Rao (KCR) (Telangana Rashtra Samiti)
3) Mayawati (BSP)
4) Akhilesh/Mulayam (SP)
5) Owaisi (MIM)
6) maybe ShardPwar (NCP)
7) YS Jagan Reddy (YSRCP)
8) Chandra Babu (TDP)

take a good look at that line up.

none of those parties have a stable, upcoming, budding second level leaders apart from their own kith and kin. they do not let stronger leaders join the party or let anyone strong emerge form the party. in case of Akhilesh - he split form his father. Chadrababu split from NTR, Jaga split from Congress.

Those "leaders" do no want to share their power with people form their own party/ideology (if those parties even have an ideology) -d o you really think they will share power with each other?

the Maha Gatbandhan experiment failed miserably in Bihar - now they are trying for a Pan-India Maha-GatBandhan. something that dint last in a single state - will it last over an entire country?

let me put it even clearly: the BJP with a clear majority finds it hard to go through a belligerent congress fillibuster - will a fractious coalition with multiple levels of break points withstand the fillibuster power of a strong opposition (in this case- the BJP)?

the only alternative I can see is a congress emerging out of the Gandhi Dynasty. this needs to happen sooner than later for a healthy democracy.

Apart from BJP and communists, can you name a single party in India which is not family owned/operated ?? And these pathetic losers are shouting "Democracy khatre mein hey " !!
 
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the salami slicing of Hindus and Inda has continued unabated.

1) take up the thekedari of all govt run businesses, nationalize everything in the name of socialism
2) have tight control of manufacturing,mining, distribution networks with license raj
3) declare people as "backward" or "forward" based on centuries old practices and hand out carrots of "reservation" in return for power.
4) create divides among people and dangle the "special category" status to people, states, communities based on caste, creed, religion, language or whatever way possible to separate people


question from a brahmin outcast like me: if my grandparents parents treated you grandparents parents badly, how will me giving up my merit for you reprieve that?

question from a state without "special category" status: who is Manmohan singh to declare that he will give special status to AP? shouldnt the classification of who gets to have the special status or not be based on facts/numbers/rules?

question from a Hindu to Karnataka govt: who are you to declare someone to be of one religion or not? are you a body that determines what is each religion? does our constitution give the govt powers to determine who is a hindu and who is not? who is a Muslim and who is not?

question from an Indian to another Indian: I am trying to develop more and more unity with you so we can come together and make a better life for us all. this continuous wedge of norht south, lingayat or not, hindu or not is being driven into us so the guys holding power keep us always in squabbles.
This is the same Nehru Secularism imposed on rest of us, that is why off with Secularism,
We were forcibly introduced to this word in Emergency.
Nobody consulted us before framing Hindu code bill and thrust it on us, why were Others given leeway for 70 years?

Regarding Merit, only some people need reservations. Rest who are good can compete with the rest.

This split of Lingayats is because who controls the fortunes of Mathhas, which are not Govt. Run like Typical Hindu temples are. Just do away with Tirupati Devasthanam from Govt. Control and see how all these Politicians come to beg for votes, like they do with Abrahamics, it was always their point to keep Hindus divided so they could lord or manipulate over us, while keeping their minority intact.

Let's see how well they Typical Churches do when Scientology ,Atheist,Satanic,Pagan, Wiccan, Norse Churches crop up here, we would have no problems with them, LOL
, How will Shias,Sunnis,Adhmadiyas,other sects do when........No comment;)

All these plans are hatched by a alliance of Necessity otherwise these two would be at each others throats rest of the world.
But, this is Devabhoomi and it will always produce Stalwards to keep such forces at bay.

You need to realize the only unity that kept this country from becoming Abrahamic was DHARMA AND HINDUISM. Realize it first and then defeat the 'Breaking India' Forces. For that we need our Hindu unity,These Politicians can create anything, its for us to work on ground level make everyone feel as ours and then you got a formidable Army. Meanwhile you also exploit the opposition weaknesses.

Whenever i need advice i randomly open Shrimad Bhagawad Gita and i get my answers somehow.
And rest assured Sanatana Dharma is Eternal, it will stay as long as this Universe stays. We have a long history where we saw, Rise and fall of Civilizations, Empires, Nations, Religions, States, people etc. But we are still here and will be there as dominant, where these new kid religions wont be around .:cool:

The First step to do all this is 'REJECT SECULARISM'
 
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Flip flops are to protect his assets not Alliance, TDP future is what Andhra people call it already 'just google 'Andhra Pappu' , you will get images of pappu (Dal) and Nara Lokesh' This is the sentiment most of Rayalaseema and AP people share, call him Pappu Gadu, CBN is grooming Nara Lokesh as CM of AP, face it how long will IT Take for people to realize there are alternatives to TDP. I would have appreciated if a grass root worker of TDP was made head, that ain't happening its a family dynasty now.

I also saw this phenomenon that some people want BJP without Modi in 2019, I like to be frank, BJP won because of Modi and all soldiers on ground were pumped with enthusiasm at getting such a leader. its not everyday you get such selfless leaders. Just watch out TDP might become another Dynasty like Congress.
Rest assured how things will play out, there are also emerging options in AP.
These are excerpts from an article published in Deccan Chronicle couple of weeks back. While CBN is shouting about lack of funds for Amaravati, reality is he did not utilize already allocated funds and diverted them to other projects and you know what fund diversion means.

CBN used to be an efficient administrator and one of his USP was quick execution of projects. It seems this time his attention was on something else.


It says that out of the total sanctions of Rs 1.72 lakh crore, a sum of over Rs 35,000 crore has already been released for various projects, while several financial releases were stuck because the state government could not furnish the requisite utilisation certificates for the disbursed amount or failed to come up with detailed project reports. The state, according to the note, was found to be 'diverting' funds for "purposes other than those specified".

Of the Rs 850 crore released for AP's new capital Amaravati, Rs 500 crore was meant for construction of Raj Bhavan, state Assembly and Secretariat and the balance for other works.

Sources in the state's Finance Department admitted to the diversions
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Amid indications that the money was spent on irrigation projects, a senior Finance Department official said, "These are some general adjustments we normally make every year.

Since nothing concrete has been finalised with regard to the new capital, we could not spend money there."

Union Urban Development Minister M Venkaiah Naidu got Rs 1,000 crore released by the Finance Ministry in March 2015 as 'one-time special assistance' for the new capital region. The two main cities in the capital region -- Vijayawada and Guntur -- were supposed to spend Rs 460 crore on developing storm water drainage system and Rs 540 crore on underground drainage and sewerage system. However, tenders are yet to be invited.

Centre has extended assistance of Rs 1.72 lakh crore to Andhra Pradesh
 
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These are excerpts from an article published in Deccan Chronicle couple of weeks back. While CBN is shouting about lack of funds for Amaravati, reality is he did not utilize already allocated funds and diverted them to other projects and you know what fund diversion means.

CBN used to be an efficient administrator and one of his USP was quick execution of projects. It seems this time his attention was on something else.


It says that out of the total sanctions of Rs 1.72 lakh crore, a sum of over Rs 35,000 crore has already been released for various projects, while several financial releases were stuck because the state government could not furnish the requisite utilisation certificates for the disbursed amount or failed to come up with detailed project reports. The state, according to the note, was found to be 'diverting' funds for "purposes other than those specified".

Of the Rs 850 crore released for AP's new capital Amaravati, Rs 500 crore was meant for construction of Raj Bhavan, state Assembly and Secretariat and the balance for other works.

Sources in the state's Finance Department admitted to the diversions.

Amid indications that the money was spent on irrigation projects, a senior Finance Department official said, "These are some general adjustments we normally make every year.

Since nothing concrete has been finalised with regard to the new capital, we could not spend money there."

Union Urban Development Minister M Venkaiah Naidu got Rs 1,000 crore released by the Finance Ministry in March 2015 as 'one-time special assistance' for the new capital region. The two main cities in the capital region -- Vijayawada and Guntur -- were supposed to spend Rs 460 crore on developing storm water drainage system and Rs 540 crore on underground drainage and sewerage system. However, tenders are yet to be invited.

Centre has extended assistance of Rs 1.72 lakh crore to Andhra Pradesh

Yes, there are much bigger scams, you will see it come up in Election year. JanaSena Chief Pawan Kalyan has already blown the bugle against Corruption by CBN son Nara Lokesh, it was quite a setback for CBN, who thought TDP could ally with Jana Sena for elections, but Pawan Kalyan gave a Broadside to CBN.

Call it ruthless, but Kapus of AP never got any Political Representation. despite being more than 15% of population of AP.
If BJP plays its caste cards well, it could dent TDP prospects, (Remember AP is still Caste factor based)
The following is the caste-wise percentage of population in Andhra pradesh:

OC:

Brahman 3.0

Kshatriya 1.2

Komati 2.7

Kamma 4.8

reddy 6.5

Kapu 15.2

Velama 3.0

BC:

Balija 3.0

Boya/Besta 0.7

Chakali 4.2

Devanga 2.1

Dudekula 0.4

Gavara 0.4

Golla 6.3

Idiga 1.0

Jangam 0.4

Kammara/ Vishwa Brahmana 2.1

Kummari 0.9

Kurma 1.3

Munnurukapu 0.8

Mangali 1.3

Mutrasi 3.3

Sale 2.9

Telaga 5.2

Uppara 0.6

Waddera 1.8

Others 5.4

SC/ST:

Madiga 7.3

Mala 9.7

Others:

Muslims,christians etc 7.0

I don;t like these caste things as i say we are all Rishi Santaan. But if Opponents play dirty, all Bets are off. BJP should concentrate on promoting Pawan Kalyan's JanaSena Party in AP and Munnuru Kapus in TG .
To counter votes and make it favourable to vote for so and so party.
 
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