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Slept 5 hours in the afternoon. Desperate for another coffee but resisting ....

Another debate going on between a Sikh, a bawa, and a Hindu on WhatsApp.

Cheers, Doc
 
Slept 5 hours in the afternoon. Desperate for another coffee but resisting ....

Another debate going on between a Sikh, a bawa, and a Hindu on WhatsApp.

Cheers, Doc

Shared an honest personal opinion about soft Hindutva. No hurry here.
 
Shared an honest personal opinion about soft Hindutva. No hurry here.

There is no hard or soft Hindutva.

The Congress could visit all the temples on Earth, but those who support Hindutva would never support it.

Just as the BJP could write reams on the collective cultural oneness of Hindutva moving forward, and no one would buy it.

Things are pretty black and white now.

Cheers, Doc
 
The treatment meted out to AGGARWAL post 2019 will be similar to the treatment your CO religionists get from various Hindu parties be it the Congress or the BSP or the SP or the RJD or the JD (U) , etc - you name it . And just so you know , you read it here first.
But how will BJP win 2019,....:unsure:

With this super duper Maha Yagya ?
BJP marathon Maha-Yagya at Red Fort | Free Press Journal -- link

Ahead of election season, BJP plans mega ‘yagya’ event in national capital
Tribune News Service
New Delhi, January 22

As political arena gets set for the 2019 General Elections, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) seems to have struck upon a novel idea of setting the ball rolling for the mega fight next year.

The party plans to organise what they have dubbed as the “Rashtra Raksha Mahayagya”:ROFLMAO:—an eight-day event from March 18-25 at the Red Fort grounds. MP Maheish Girri, who announced the event on Monday, said that the party would organise ‘yagya’, a vedic Hindu ritual conducted in front of the holy fire.

“The ‘Rashtra Raksha Mahayagya’ will be the largest cultural and spiritual “sanskritik mahotsav India has ever witnessed. It will be held at the Lal Quila grounds,” the East Delhi MP and key organiser of the event said. The ‘Rashtra Raksha Yagna’ (ritual for saving the nation) will seek the blessings of the mahavidyas (great wisdom goddesses) in Hinduism, including Bagalamukhi Devi.

The yagya will witness “as many as 108 yagya kund” from soil taken from several parts of the country “including border areas like Doklam and Poonch, and water from all the holy rivers across the country”.

The party plans to source ‘ghee’, or clarified butter that will be used for ritual, from different parts of country—one spoon of ghee from everyone, “from President Ram Nath Kovind to the last man in the queue”, according to Giri—for which the party will organise what they call a “ghee rath yatra”. :ROFLMAO:

Producer-director Nitin Chandrakant Desai will design the stage/set for the event, Girri said.

Like all “yagyas”, this event will also have “sankalp”, or resolutions—as many as eight. Among them are respect for women, freedom from corruption and terrorism, protection of the Constitution and building a fearless society.

A “devi agaman” ceremony will be held when idols enter Delhi, Girri said.

Invitations for the event are being sent to President Ram Nath Kovind, Vice-President M Venkaiah Naidu, Prime Minister Narendra Modi and the Chief Justice of India Dipak Misra, as well as senior Congress leaders, including president Rahul Gandhi and his mother Sonia Gandhi.

Girri however promised his party would ensure the city did not “come to a stand still with traffic jams”.

“Proper arrangements will be in place,” he said.

Girri is a disciple of Art of Living founder Sri Sri Ravi Shankar.

This year, the BJP will fight to retain power in Rajasthan, Chhattisgarh and Madhya Pradesh. Besides, it wants to wrest Karnataka from the Congress.

Ahead of election season, BJP plans mega ‘yagya’ event in national capital --link
 
First worry about TDP coming to power next time, last time TDP barely scraped it even though principal opposition congress was out of race, this time its a 3 way contest you won't find it easy to get votes. Seemingly how Mudragadda and other leaders demanding reservations which CBN won't give, that means whole East and West GodavarI, Guntur, Vizag districts votes are gone.

As for BJP in 2019 it will get a majority again, who is standing against modi, people won't vote a Kichidi alliance ,with no credible leader .Just because TDP is out of NDA doesn't mean world has ended. CBN is just a opportunist, who backstabs people after his work is over, CBN's play is over, there is Janasena and YSRCP against TDP ,which means more headache for CBN and possible allies for BJP. ;)

The kickbacks were recieved by UPA, it was BJP which brought the cases to court. You should ask UPA how LOU's were given to banks and mallya was bailed out by MMS.

So the corrupt Modi, Shah lets mallya,lalit modi and nirav modi to leave the country and the people have to go and ask the past govt ? If so what is the current govt. doing ? Why dont they arrest those in UPA? Oh wait when did modi act against corrupt people he shares bed with them.
 
But how will BJP win 2019,....:unsure:

With this super duper Maha Yagya ?
BJP marathon Maha-Yagya at Red Fort | Free Press Journal -- link

Ahead of election season, BJP plans mega ‘yagya’ event in national capital
Tribune News Service
New Delhi, January 22

As political arena gets set for the 2019 General Elections, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) seems to have struck upon a novel idea of setting the ball rolling for the mega fight next year.

The party plans to organise what they have dubbed as the “Rashtra Raksha Mahayagya”:ROFLMAO:—an eight-day event from March 18-25 at the Red Fort grounds. MP Maheish Girri, who announced the event on Monday, said that the party would organise ‘yagya’, a vedic Hindu ritual conducted in front of the holy fire.

“The ‘Rashtra Raksha Mahayagya’ will be the largest cultural and spiritual “sanskritik mahotsav India has ever witnessed. It will be held at the Lal Quila grounds,” the East Delhi MP and key organiser of the event said. The ‘Rashtra Raksha Yagna’ (ritual for saving the nation) will seek the blessings of the mahavidyas (great wisdom goddesses) in Hinduism, including Bagalamukhi Devi.

The yagya will witness “as many as 108 yagya kund” from soil taken from several parts of the country “including border areas like Doklam and Poonch, and water from all the holy rivers across the country”.

The party plans to source ‘ghee’, or clarified butter that will be used for ritual, from different parts of country—one spoon of ghee from everyone, “from President Ram Nath Kovind to the last man in the queue”, according to Giri—for which the party will organise what they call a “ghee rath yatra”. :ROFLMAO:

Producer-director Nitin Chandrakant Desai will design the stage/set for the event, Girri said.

Like all “yagyas”, this event will also have “sankalp”, or resolutions—as many as eight. Among them are respect for women, freedom from corruption and terrorism, protection of the Constitution and building a fearless society.

A “devi agaman” ceremony will be held when idols enter Delhi, Girri said.

Invitations for the event are being sent to President Ram Nath Kovind, Vice-President M Venkaiah Naidu, Prime Minister Narendra Modi and the Chief Justice of India Dipak Misra, as well as senior Congress leaders, including president Rahul Gandhi and his mother Sonia Gandhi.

Girri however promised his party would ensure the city did not “come to a stand still with traffic jams”.

“Proper arrangements will be in place,” he said.

Girri is a disciple of Art of Living founder Sri Sri Ravi Shankar.

This year, the BJP will fight to retain power in Rajasthan, Chhattisgarh and Madhya Pradesh. Besides, it wants to wrest Karnataka from the Congress.

Ahead of election season, BJP plans mega ‘yagya’ event in national capital --link
You've jumped from periyar supporters to the geographical / historical importance of Allahabad to Naresh AGGARWAL to the mahayagya. Which proves you've no argument . You've done this the last time you engaged me as well .All you aim is to flamebait using the fault lines of the Hindu faith to justify your attempts at constructing arguments / offering justifications in dislodging the BJP from power.

When you're shown that this game can be played by the other side too , you run and change topics .Come up with better more cogent & coherent arguments . There's a lot to be said about Modi's failings but as I've remarked earlier , I can't tell whether the quality of the opposition to the RW out there are filled with bigger clowns or in here . Now run along Miya. Get some sleep or come up with more compelling arguments .
 
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So the corrupt Modi, Shah lets mallya,lalit modi and nirav modi to leave the country and the people have to go and ask the past govt ? If so what is the current govt. doing ? Why dont they arrest those in UPA? Oh wait when did modi act against corrupt people he shares bed with them.
Itachi-san, you are a smart man. All three of them committed their frauds under the previous dispensation.
We have bureaucracies and the CBI filled up by the previous dispensation. Its no surprise they get the info beforehand and run away.

The interesting thing is, there wasn't a whisper about these frauds before in those times. If the current government wanted to , it would only make sense that we would continue to have radio silence. But the frauds are out in the open. Their businesses have been made bankrupt. Surely the current ones won't be bankrupting their friends?

You are trying to equate older scams with these frauds. Curious part is both were committed under the previous govt. But they were caught at different times.

Please don't twist what is essentially collective monetary rape of the country. OUR country.
 
There is no hard or soft Hindutva.

The Congress could visit all the temples on Earth, but those who support Hindutva would never support it.

Just as the BJP could write reams on the collective cultural oneness of Hindutva moving forward, and no one would buy it.

Things are pretty black and white now.

Cheers, Doc
I don't remember bringing Congress or BJP in my reponse to your question. I told you what soft hindutva is according to me and I strongly believe it to be true. People who preach Hindus about Ganga Jamuni tehzib, and Vasudev Kutumbkum by saying nice things once in a while but still sucking up to the "MINORITIES" for their secular cred.
 
Itachi-san, you are a smart man. All three of them committed their frauds under the previous dispensation.
We have bureaucracies and the CBI filled up by the previous dispensation. Its no surprise they get the info beforehand and run away.

The interesting thing is, there wasn't a whisper about these frauds before in those times. If the current government wanted to , it would only make sense that we would continue to have radio silence. But the frauds are out in the open. Their businesses have been made bankrupt. Surely the current ones won't be bankrupting their friends?

You are trying to equate older scams with these frauds. Curious part is both were committed under the previous govt. But they were caught at different times.

Please don't twist what is essentially collective monetary rape of the country. OUR country.
True these frauds happend in UPA regime. But why does NDA not taking any action. They let those fraidsters leave the country. Now both of us know that centre knew that these people would leave. If anyone denies this then it is plain BS. Under the modi govt these frauds just came out while cleaning up the NPA's but they never arrest anyone, no heads will ever get rolled. Let me tell you now, even kalmadi walks free. What frustrates me is this, in UPA 2 atleast people like kalmadi, kanimozi, Raja, Axis chairman got arrested. In this govt everyone walked free after the cases got cleared against them. Fraudsters are happily leaving the country and the media cell of BJP wants to blame everything on upa and the judiciary. When everyone knows the judiciary in India isnt completely free from govt interference. They are talking abt freeing jagan from his cases too. Modi and his team are so openly cheating us and showing us middle fingre. The only solace that bhakts want people to believe is that he is btr than rahul. This is ridiculous bro.
 
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So the corrupt Modi, Shah lets mallya,lalit modi and nirav modi to leave the country and the people have to go and ask the past govt ? If so what is the current govt. doing ? Why dont they arrest those in UPA? Oh wait when did modi act against corrupt people he shares bed with them.
It was BJP who filed cases against corrupt, and took them to court, but you would call it political vendetta when BJP punishes the corrupt UPA.
Nirav Modis scam came out in open the UPA era LOU's were expired, till then even Punjab National bank didnt knew about the scam forget rest and BJP.

For mallya he is using his lawyers to stay off extradition using house of lords politicians how long can he stay away , when all his assets were seized, Similar to Nirav Modi, whose assets were seized.
It was BJP that sent A,Raja, Kanimozhi and Lalu to jail, and ,made sonia rahul go out on bail for National Herald scam. You would call it Political vendetta if Karti Chidambaram is sent to jail.

Tell me what has CBN done with the corrupt Jagan? or his cash for votes scam or the scams of TDP , its progress card is empty.
TDP failed to fulfil poll promises, says Jagan


sample of scams by TDP
Vizag land scam: YSRCP MP Vijay Sai Reddy demands CBI probe, Jagan to hold maha dharna
Naidu dropped AP special status demand after getting caught in cash-for-vote scam: Jagan
TDP diluted Aarogyasri: Jagan

Chandrababu @34 scams
 
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So the corrupt Modi, Shah lets mallya,lalit modi and nirav modi to leave the country and the people have to go and ask the past govt ? If so what is the current govt. doing ? Why dont they arrest those in UPA? Oh wait when did modi act against corrupt people he shares bed with them.
Ask CBN to campaign against BJP in Karnataka.... This will give Andhra and CBN more leverage on BJP. CBN can also damage BJP in Northern Tamil nadu.
 
You've jumped from periyar supporters to the geographical / historical importance of Allahabad to Naresh AGGARWAL to the mahayagya. Which proves you've no argument . You've done this the last time you engaged me as well .All you aim is to flamebait using the fault lines of the Hindu faith to justify your attempts at constructing arguments / offering justifications in dislodging the BJP from power.

When you're shown that this game can be played by the other side too , you run and change topics .Come up with better more cogent & coherent arguments . There's a lot to be said about Modi's failings but as I've remarked earlier , I can't tell whether the quality of the opposition to the RW out there are filled with bigger clowns or in here . Now run along Miya. Get some sleep or come up with more compelling arguments .
I never engaged you, it is you who keeps engaging me like a Love Jihad victim.

You Bha-kts are piqued because your Vin-diesel(Yogi) lost pathetically in recent UP by-polls.
 
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Chandrababu @34 scams

Published on : 27-04-16 | 17:45

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() Chandrababu's uninterrupted corruption in the state

() Enticement of MLAs with black money

() Robbery of Rs.34,000 crore in 2 years

() Is Babu ready to face CBI inquiry?

() YS Jagan slams TDP Government



Delhi: The leader of opposition in AP and YSRCP president YS Jagan uncovered the account of corruption of Chandrababu Naidu and his coterie. He mentioned that Chandrababu had managed to commit corrupted activities of worth Rs.1,34,295 crore. He revealed that 34 scams had happened in the 2-year tenure of Chandrababu. He expressed his displeasure towards the uninterrupted unlawful activities of Chandrababu in the state. YS Jagan criticised Chandrababu for enticing each opposition MLA with Rs.20-30 crore, thereby slaughtering democracy. He spoke to the media in New Delhi. Here are the details of the speech.


Chandrababu @34 scams

It was unfair of Chandrababu who has been caught in note for vote case in Telangana along with audio and video proofs to continue the same unlawful activity in Andhra Pradesh, exclaimed YS Jagan. He questioned where Chandrababu was getting all this black money from. Besides, Babu was also offering the new MLAs with ministries and stated that they did not have to resign to the MLA positions. He demanded and encouraged the media to take initiative and question Babu how this works possible in democracy. Snatching MLAs from other parties, not making them to resign and not disqualifying them were signs of the Government's unconstitutional rule, opined YS Jagan.

He confided that the loss of 13 MLAs from a total of 67 was not going to affect the party in any way. He remarked that the difference in the percentage of votes earned by TDP and YSRCP was only 1.86 % as the former gathered around 46% votes while the latter collected almost 45% votes. The difference in the number of votes was less than 5 lakhs. He complained that Chandrababu had come to power by making false promises and was suppressing the voice of the people for questioning the deception. YS Jagan expressed his concern for the agony of the people of the state including the farmers, the DWCRA women and the unemployed. He commented that Chandrababu was facing resistance everywhere.



TDP manifesto had mentioned waiver of Rs.87,612 crore. Only Rs.24,000 crore had been waived in the last 2 years. This did not account to even one third of the total amount of loans to be waived, commented YS Jagan. He added that DWCRA women were paying 2% interest instead of 0%. A job for every household had not been implemented nor was the promised Rs.2000 stipend given to the unemployed. 1.75 crore households were still waiting for the stipend, YS Jagan reported. Not one of the promised houses had been built. Power charges were exceeding limits. The people were fed up by Chandrababu rule, he stated.



Y S Jagan complained that Chandrababu was trying to suppress the people by buying their representatives through enticement in order to mask his failure. He suggested to the media that it was their duty to question these acts being from the educated class. He handed over copies of the book 'Chandrababu-Emperor of Corruption' to the media. He mentioned that the book had the details of Chandrababu's scams including land mafia and sand mafia.

YS Jagan stated that Chandrababu had robbed thousands of acres of land with the name of capital city construction. He specified that Amaravathi scam alone was of worth Rs.1 lakh crore. YS Jagan complained that Chandrababu, inspite of being sure about the location of the new capital from the beginning, had not announced it and brought many names into picture. After his benamis had finished occupying and buying the lands in the capital area for meagre prices, the name of Amaravathi was announced. YS Jagan commented that this was nothing but inside trading.

After the announcement of the capital Chandrababu committed yet another scam. He implemented zoning system in two districts around the capital. He included his lands in commercial zone and marked the farmers' lands as agriculture zone, thereby banning them from being sold. Thus, Chandrababu became successful in benefiting himself and his benamis, criticised YS Jagan. He questioned what kind of deception this was.



The land pooling stopped exactly 10 feet away from the boundary of Lingamaneni estate. Chandrababu himself was living in the lingamaneni house. YS Jagan questioned if this was not to benefit them. He said the truth would surface upon running CBI enquiry basing on the documentary evidence and registration information they had presented. He criticised the yellow media for projecting party defection as a great victory for TDP. He also condemned their spreading false rumours about the defection of loyal YSRCP leaders.



YS Jagan commented that Chandrababu was not making his newly-bought MLAs resign and go into the people. He questioned why Babu lacked confidence on his own rule. He suggested the media to sternly question Chandrababu. He complained that he was considered nice person as long as he had been in congress party but soon after he came out of the party he was accused with legal cases buy Congress Party and Telugudesam party together. YS Jagan reminded that he had fought against them at that time and confided that he would continue the same spirit in future too. He put a straight question to Chandra Chandrababu if he had the courage to undergo an enquiry.
 
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I never engaged you, it is you who keeps engaging me like a Love Jihad victim.

You Bha-kts are piqued because your Vin-diesel(Yogi) lost pathetically in recent UP by-polls.
Go check out your history , Miyan , on who engaged whom first ? As for love jihad , who else will your lot get to eye except females from the opposite religion , given you keep yours confined in the four walls of your home and if they move out its under a cloak.

If the result of two bye polls have got you orgasmic , congratulations. You've won a moral victory , much like the GOP you support .

As far as MY YA is concerned, I never was a big fan of him. Having said that , he seems to be working hard on his state as far as the Law & order situation goes . With respect to the situation on the economic front , he's working energetically there too.So yes , he's impressed the naysayers like me although he has a long way to go in a state right at the bottom of all socio economic indicators.

@BlackOpsIndia is a local who can provide much more info w.r.t UP in case you're interested in information not propaganda .
 
Could you explain it without links please.

Interested to hear what you think.

Cheers, Doc
Soft Hindutwa is not targeted at BJP core votebank, but fence sitting Hindus(especially OBC SC ST), it is to weaken the Kamandal.

‘I must thank the BJP for telling me that I am a backward, not forward, but no matter how backward we are, our work is forward,’ he said in a recent speech.
UP bye-poll victory recasts Akhilesh Yadav as backward class leader – and that will worry BJP --link
 
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If this is the kind of intelligence assailing analysis of what soft Hindutva is all about , it's no wonder the Congress has been ruling us for over 60 years .

Also another reason why malnutrition related stunting ( although it's figures have been coming down rapidly in the past one decade ) may have contributed to most people making their choices in electing political parties( namely the Congress in spite of its non performance ) the way they did , as manifested in the post masquerading as "anal ysis" above.
 
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