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vsdoc said:
Never denied our Hindu culture. Which most of us embrace voluntarily.

There is nothing voluntary or shared about the Sangh.

There was little presence of Hindu hardliners because they were fringe, never involved, and collaborators for the most part, sucking up to the Brits for favors.

Which is why their newfound nationalism disgusts those who know their origins and history in the freedom struggle.

Cheers, Doc
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Now you're off on a tangent . This was a discussion on reservations for a particular grouping based on a provision in the Indian Constitution which in turn was derived from a discussion on the rights enjoyed by Minority educational and religious institutions but denied to similar institutions of the majority community .

For all your rantings on the Sangh , can you come up with examples of their collaboration with the BE. Mind you , I'm referring to the Sangh , not Savarkar.
 
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Now you're off on a tangent . This was a discussion on reservations for a particular grouping based on a provision in the Indian Constitution which in turn was derived from a discussion on the rights enjoyed by Minority educational and religious institutions but denied to similar institutions of the majority community .

For all your rantings on the Sangh , can you come up with examples of their collaboration with the BE. Mind you , I'm referring to the Sangh , not Savarkar.
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Please man. I'm on my phone. Bodyache and a stomach bug.

You win.

Cheers, Doc
 
vsdoc said:
Which is why their newfound nationalism disgusts those who know their origins and history in the freedom struggle.
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Congress Behaviour in the UPA era
has made it look ANTI HINDU ; Treasonous and Anti national

Not only they coined the term Hindu Terror But also PROTECTED Terrorists
such as Ishrat Jahan ; Soharabuddin

They also shed tears over the Delhi encounters

people do not care for what Congress DID in 1947

If Congress is Known as a MUSLIM party ; it is due to their recent actions
especially Trying to Crucify MODI in favour of Muslim terrorists

And BJP and Modi have only capitalised on these

BJP as a right wing Hindu party is naturally trusted by Hindus

Congress only believed in protecting its secular credentials and Hence antagonised Hindus

Above all MMS was so Much in love with Pakistan
that he looked like a pakistani agent

Who was MMS trying to please by appeasing Pakistanis
 
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STEPHEN COHEN said:
Congress Behaviour in the UPA era
has made it look ANTI HINDU ; Treasonous and Anti national

Not only they coined the term Hindu Terror But also PROTECTED Terrorists
such as Ishrat Jahan ; Soharabuddin

They also shed tears over the Delhi encounters

people do not care for what Congress DID in 1947

If Congress is Known as a MUSLIM party ; it is due to their recent actions
especially Trying to Crucify MODI in favour of Muslim terrorists

And BJP and Modi have only capitalised on these

BJP as a right wing Hindu party is naturally trusted by Hindus

Congress only believed in protecting its secular credentials and Hence antagonised Hindus

Above all MMS was so Much in love with Pakistan
that he looked like a pakistani agent

Who was MMS trying to please by appeasing Pakistanis
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Stephen the harm the BJP has done will become clear to you in the decade to come.

It's obvious they've turned off non Hindus. Not just Muslims but non Hindus in general.

But that may not matter to you. If you are ok with 20% of the nation alienated.

The problem for us is that it has split Hindus ideologically.

Beyond the usual cleave planes.

Modi won by coalescing a larger chunk of Hindus into a vote bank than normal.

But when you are talking one billion, and you see the percent of the electorate that voted Modi, you realise that even in 2014, a huge component of Hindus voted against him.

There in lie the seeds of fracturing of our society for the future.

Way worse than what you accuse the Congress of.

Cheers, Doc
 
vsdoc said:
Stephen the harm the BJP has done will become clear to you in the decade to come.

It's obvious they've turned off non Hindus. Not just Muslims but non Hindus in general.

But that may not matter to you. If you are ok with 20% of the nation alienated.

The problem for us is that it has split Hindus ideologically.

Beyond the usual cleave planes.

Modi won by coalescing a larger chunk of Hindus into a vote bank than normal.

But when you are talking one billion, and you see the percent of the electorate that voted Modi, you realise that even in 2014, a huge component of Hindus voted agay him.

There on lie the seeds of fracturing of our society for the future.

Way worse than what you accuse the Congress of.

Cheers, Doc
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Bull Shit

The original sin of dividing the society was done by The Congress
when they shamelessly alienated Hindus

Till recently congress would utter ONLY TWO words

Minorities and Secularism

BJP only united the Hindus

If you want that Hindus should NOT MIND being Ignored
that is NOT GOING to happen

You CANNOT take Hindus for GRANTED in India ; this is OUR Country

That is the Biggest take away of Modi 's rise

When ever Hindus feel Alienated or ignored or being taken for granted
ANOTHER MODI will rise

If Mamta banerjee is celebrating Ram Navmi today
then credit goes to Modi
 
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STEPHEN COHEN said:
Bull Shit

The original sin of dividing the society was done by The Congress
when they shamelessly alienated Hindus

Till recently congress would utter ONLY TWO words

Minorities and Secularism

BJP only united the Hindus

If you want that Hindus should NOT MIND being Ignored
that is NOT GOING to happen

You CANNOT take Hindus for GRANTED in India ; this is OUR Country

That is the Biggest take away of Modi 's rise

When ever Hindus feel Alienated or ignored or being taken for granted
ANOTHER MODI will rise

If Mamta banerjee is celebrating Ram Navmi today
then credit goes to Modi
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My point is that Modi has United only some Hindus.

Alienated the rest.

2014 was evidence.

2019 will be even closer.

Maybe he will get the boot.

Let's see.

Cheers, Doc
 
@vsdoc The Victory of Trump and Modi was Similar in the sense that the MAJORITY was feeling Neglected

Trump also tapped into the White anger as did Modi who tapped into Hindu alienation
felt during MMS rule
 
STEPHEN COHEN said:
@vsdoc The Victory of Trump and Modi was Similar in the sense that the MAJORITY was feeling Neglected

Trump also tapped into the White anger as did Modi who tapped into Hindu alienation
felt during MMS rule
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Agree.

But I'm thinking beyond.

Winning once is not tough, on the back of a strong anti incumbency disgust.

But at what cost.

Cheers, Doc
 
vsdoc said:
Agree.

But I'm thinking beyond.

Winning once is not tough, on the back of a strong anti incumbency disgust.

But at what cost.

Cheers, Doc
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So just Because Minorities do not approve of BJP
and Modi ; we should reject him

Politics is all about POLARISATION

Deal with it
 
vsdoc said:
As I've told you before, you also get the Lions share of reservation in this country.

Not to mention benefits for the poor and downtrodden - since most of them.are also yours.

Think of it as paying for all of that.

Cheers, Doc
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Lions share or Reservation, I win in General Category tujhe kya lag raha he?, Jaise tere Parsis ko selective selectiveness diya jata hain.

Bhai, apni aukaad to dekh lo.
Agar itni Dum hot! toh ladte ladte marjate, tum tumhare I-RAN ke liye, lekin, tum toh AHSAN FARAMOUSH HO!
Jaha khate ho wahi pe chedd karte ho.

Paying me? ooh, just pay me, i will also pay you back:p Kardo na, kya pay karna hai? hai dum karke toh dekho,
 
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vsdoc said:
As I've told you before, you also get the Lions share of reservation in this country.

Not to mention benefits for the poor and downtrodden - since most of them.are also yours.

Think of it as paying for all of that.

Cheers, Doc
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Lions share we don't get any?
This is a time for you folks to be silent and later say your opinions.
Tu apne aap ko kya samajhta he be refugee.
 
vsdoc said:
Never denied our Hindu culture. Which most of us embrace voluntarily.

There is nothing voluntary or shared about the Sangh.

There was little presence of Hindu hardliners because they were fringe, never involved, and collaborators for the most part, sucking up to the Brits for favors.

Which is why their newfound nationalism disgusts those who know their origins and history in the freedom struggle.

Cheers, Doc
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Aww, it disgusts you? when it made all your Parsis own a theater from Burma to India,
leech upon timber exports calling it Burma Timber,
Forget the opiate trade, Karma made sure you got enough idiots for the karmas you did, LOL

Boy, Sangh is a reaction to you idiots, who dream so and so. We are sons of Bharat and we won't hesitate to Kill to defend our Bharata Mata. Get that into your minds. This is our Era, so BEHAVE!
 
vsdoc said:
Agree.

But I'm thinking beyond.

Winning once is not tough, on the back of a strong anti incumbency disgust.

But at what cost.

Cheers, Doc
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Sun, tu tere ghar ki mahaul se Modiji ki compare na kar. Agar itni teri aukaat hoti toh ...choor do....aake lado, Dikhao tumhari Shaktu,
Hamare ghar ke sabi ladkiyan yuddh kaise karna hai , sab jaante hai! Hare Rama, Hare Rama. Krishna Krishna Hare Hare. :)
 
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Half of the hindus don't know what Hinduism is. It has taken some anpadh buggers to promote their own version of it so masses are pleased.
 
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