That's a secular rape, nothing to worry, such rapes are encouraged not punished, in which world are you? Didn't you saw secular riots of Bengal? NDTV defended them.
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@vstol Jockey what's your prediction on karnataka elections. IMHO if Congress retains karnataka Rahul will get enough wind in his sails to challenge Modi in 19. I'm hoping BJP doesn't screw this one up
Only way Rahul can get enough wind is when BJP pitch another Rahul for PM.
That will be clash of Titans.
One State or two don't decide National elections though some Rajdeeps will make you believe that before every election. Indian electorate is much more mature than they think in TV studios.
This is what happens when you don't know of the (British) Indian Army Campaign of WW1 and WW2. (The Indian Civilization has its own share of wars, right from its depiction of Mahabharata to contemporary history) In history we lagged behind because we has civilized rules of war and not total war concept and as practiced by western and Semitic barbarians. As reality is, are you of the opinion that India should not agument its war fighting capacity or is just incapable of winning wars ?
and if one advocates it he is just being a faccist chaddi wala ? Tell me Doc what's up with you ?
IMHO there is going to be reverse polarisation against Congress and we can expect an unexpected result like that of UP.
The Congress in Karnataka is different from other states, they are actually competent.
No clue if they're competent , but since you're a local , your word carries more weight & we'd have to take your word for it. What's indisputable , however , is the fact that they're on a much stronger wicket and have an excellent functional organization there .
OTOH , the BJP has been saddled with BSY , who hasn't been able to live down his image and hasn't been able to successfully position himself as a viable alternative.
I'm betting the Congress will either retain power or will be the single largest party .
So what are the most accurate projections right now? Are the surveys predicting 85-90 for BJP & Congress, with JDS being kingmaker (~ 40 seats) accurate?
Also, I have often read that in past elections, many of Karnataka's voters only made their mind up on the last day or two; with Modi launching a campaign blitz at the very end, would you expect this to just tip the scales marginally in BJP's favor?
With due apologies to all our members from south India and WB, these states are supposed to have best literacy rates in India and yet we have people voting absolute rubbish in these states.
With due respect Delhi has equally good literacy rates . How did you vote ?
Insaan ne samajhdaar hona chahiye. Pade likhe toh dilliwaale bhi hain !
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The problem for BJP is they have never "really" demonstrated their ability to rule in Karnataka. They are quite powerful, but have mainly been the opposition here. The only time they came to power in 2008, they screwed it up due to petty politics.
Because of Modi, there is a sense of uncertainty, but the most likely result is a hung assembly.
Hung assembly is the most likely result.
The problem for Modi is BJP is at a political disadvantage in Karnataka. The BJP here has been involved in scams, particularly the Reddy brothers and their mining mafia in Central Karnataka. Not to mention, the BJP itself is not united.
Regardless, Central Kar is BJP's fiefdom. Northeast and Northwest Kar belongs to Congress. The coast is split, as is South Kar. Just so you know, they are all pretty much swing constituencies. Constituencies change hands at the drop of a hat. Predictions don't have a place here.
The Supreme Court verdict in the Cauvery dispute is a huge plus point for Congress. Water is pretty much the biggest election point in the South.
Cauvery water dispute verdict: SC rules Tamil Nadu will get 404 tmcft, lower than Tribunal's 419 tmcft award - Times of India ►
If not a marginal majority for BJP, I'm hoping for a hung assembly. If that happens, Modi and Shah can turn on their power charm to entice JDS to form a coalition again, regardless of the 2007 fiasco when JDS backstabbed BJP.
Yeah, let's see what Modi does with all the rallies. There's still time left for people to form their opinions. We can make a more definite prediction only in the last 2 or 3 days.
Excellent analysis. Quite close to what I'm hearing about the ground reality there , as per sources whose judgement and reasoning I trust .
Are you a kannadiga or have you migrated there , if I may ask ?@randomradio
Are you a kannadiga or have you migrated there , if I may ask ?@randomradio
I am a North Indian, but my family migrated generations ago.
In 2013 elections, BJP was made to lose the elections by the trio of Advani, Sushma and Anant Kumar who were opposed to Modi and decided to remove Yeddy from the CMs post due to the false corruption charges. Yeddy was a Modi supporter. Italian waitress gave nearly 100 crores to Yeddy to form a new party and fight elections against BJP resulting in diversion of BJP votes which brought Congress to power in 2013. BJP scored a self goal as it was clearly divided in two factions-Advani vs Modi.
BJP had performed worst in Northern and coastal Karnataka in 2013 due to this division of votes. These areas are traditional strongholds of BJP.
One thing I've noticed is that literacy, wealth and cultural sophistication don't necessarily guarantee good/smart politics. Across the world there are communities that have traditionally been well educated, well off, and very modern/progressive and sophisticated; yet they often fall hook, line and sinker for the dumbest political ideologies (communism being one major example).
Yes and this time congress has done self goal by giving Lingayats the minority status. Veerashaivas and Lingayats were considered one and same and constitute about 18% of total electorate in Karnataka. veerashaivas are against this move to grant minority status to Lingayats. Veerashaivas are the dominant group among Lingayats with 10% of total population of Karnataka. And there is no guarantee that all Lingayats will vote for congress. even if consider that 75% of Lingayats will vote for congress, this means that of the 18% population of Karnataka, congress will get an advantage of only 6% but the remaining hindu population opposes this move and considers it an attempt to break Hindu religion.
of the 6% Lingayats likely to vote for congress, the actual shift is less than 2% as most of them will still vote for BJP. karnataka has just about 11% muslim population and just like Gujrat, they can't impact the elections as strongly as they do in Kerala, WB and UP. But a Hindu consolidation can give unexpected results like that of UP making it a one sided affair. If you recall the opinion polls for UP, Gujrat and other states, every opinion poll showed a hung or very small advantage to BJP. The Opinion polls are a game played by anti-national forces to sway the mood of the voters and confuse them but this game has failed miserably due to Modi.
Lingayats support the BJP. Congress is playing divide and rule. As the leader of KJP, even Yeddy, who is a Lingayat, supported the minority tag. So now they are stuck in a bind. It's unclear how this will play out.
It will play out the way I have stated.