Indian Political Discussion

[Guynextdoor]

Exactly. IF he wins. Could you please compare his performance vis-a-vis the other leaders in the Congress of a bygone era? Oh could you also, please trace how many elections the Congress has won under his leadership and how many lost? Is he still a 'youth' leader? Emerging leader? Upcoming leader? Reclusive leader? Reticent leader?

In fact, Congress should now be called . That's an orginal....oooh. am so excited.

for the time being he seems to be tearing the BJP a brand new @rsehole. Only silly people will say Modi's standing is the same as what he was before. His allies are running away, opposition solidifying. Under the circumstances RG needs to close look. The fact that even BJP IT Cell is not able to spread pappu jokes shows a lot- a completely destroyed reputation is rarely recovered.

 

[suryakiran]

for the time being he seems to be tearing the BJP a brand new @rsehole. Only silly people will say Modi's standing is the same as what he was before. His allies are running away, opposition solidifying. Under the circumstances RG needs to close look. The fact that even BJP IT Cell is not able to spread pappu jokes shows a lot- a completely destroyed reputation is rarely recovered.

Tearing what? Which state has he torn? How many states has he won? He has made Congress, *********. Jidhar dekho g**d lagti hai. Hell, you chaps have a better chance of winning with Kejriwal at the helm. Forget Kejriwal, D Raja of Communists will do a better job

What matters at the end of the day is results on ground. When Modi is beaten, I will congratulate you. Till then, please respond to your comment on how Rahul Gandhi is performing. What is his ability to win elections? How many has he won and how many has he lost?

BJP cell running out of pappu jokes is because they have become pappu facts. No longer jokes.

 

[Guynextdoor]

Tearing what? Which state has he torn? How many states has he won? He has made Congress, Gandgress. Jidhar dekho g**d lagti hai. Hell, you chaps have a better chance of winning with Kejriwal at the helm. Forget Kejriwal, D Raja of Communists will do a better job

What matters at the end of the day is results on ground. When Modi is beaten, I will congratulate you. Till then, please respond to your comment on how Rahul Gandhi is performing. What is his ability to win elections? How many has he won and how many has he lost?

BJP cell running out of pappu jokes is because they have become pappu facts. No longer jokes.

Lol, tell this to BJP which is running from pillar to post trying to save 2019. Bhkt delusions.

 

[_Anonymous_]

Tearing what? Which state has he torn? How many states has he won? He has made Congress, Gandgress. Jidhar dekho g**d lagti hai. Hell, you chaps have a better chance of winning with Kejriwal at the helm. Forget Kejriwal, D Raja of Communists will do a better job

What matters at the end of the day is results on ground. When Modi is beaten, I will congratulate you. Till then, please respond to your comment on how Rahul Gandhi is performing. What is his ability to win elections? How many has he won and how many has he lost?

BJP cell running out of pappu jokes is because they have become pappu facts. No longer jokes.

Do you actually think engaging a troll is constructive ? Look at his last answer . The reason Congress /Gxxxgress is where it is , is coz it's core supporters have emigrated to other parties . What's left is a motley bunch resembling their leader - pappu in psyche , public discourse , political acumen and ability to administer , as is in ample evidence here.

 

[suryakiran]

Lol, tell this to BJP which is running from pillar to post trying to save 2019. Bhkt delusions.

Bhai pehle ek election toh jeeto. One. Just one.

Btw, why you not answering your point of Rahul Gandhi report card and how he is your leader since he is winning elections.

 

[suryakiran]

Do you actually think engaging a troll is constructive ? Look at his last answer . The reason Congress /Gxxxgress is where it is , is coz it's core supporters have emigrated to other parties . What's left is a motley bunch resembling their leader - pappu in psyche , public discourse , political acumen and ability to administer , as is in ample evidence here.

Look, I have had a boring day. And I am having some fun.

On a serious note, I honestly wish we had a good opposition. Unfortunately, after seeing the comments of current crop of Congress leaders, supporters and what they are up to, this seems a distant dream. After seeding space continuously to regional parties, they seem to think Congress can come back. The answer is right in front. Get rid of the idiot on top and rebuild. Make policies. In the post Narasimha Rao era, you had a Sonia Gandhi who had the guts to take difficult calls.

If you were to ask me, if the Congress wants to come back, they need to lose Rahul Gandhi and bring in Robert Vadra. Don't laugh. If you want to take on the Modi -Shah juggernaut, you need a person with a buffalo skin and someone who is ready to brawl and fight. Not do grass in private and rotis in public. Rahul Gandhi simple does not have what it takes.

 

[_Anonymous_]

Look, I have had a boring day. And I am having some fun.

On a serious note, I honestly wish we had a good opposition. Unfortunately, after seeing the comments of current crop of Congress leaders, supporters and what they are up to, this seems a distant dream. After seeding space continuously to regional parties, they seem to think Congress can come back. The answer is right in front. Get rid of the idiot on top and rebuild. Make policies. In the post Narasimha Rao era, you had a Sonia Gandhi who had the guts to take difficult calls.

If you were to ask me, if the Congress wants to come back, they need to lose Rahul Gandhi and bring in Robert Vadra. Don't laugh. If you want to take on the Modi -Shah juggernaut, you need a person with a buffalo skin and someone who is ready to brawl and fight. Not do grass in private and rotis in public. Rahul Gandhi simple does not have what it takes.

But what's wrong with RaGa ? After all ,didn't the Mughals have someone like Muhammad Shah "Rangila" on the throne for a good 20 years ? Or Shah Alam on the throne , about whom his loyal subjects said - Sultanat e Shah Alam , az Dilli ta Palam ( The Sultanate of Shah Alam , Stretches as far as Delhi to Palam )

Look at it this way . Obama won the Nobel in the first year of his office. For not being Bush. There's a larger plan at work here . Of which we mortals don't know much ,save the troll.

 

[Guynextdoor]

Bhai pehle ek election toh jeeto. One. Just one.

Btw, why you not answering your point of Rahul Gandhi report card and how he is your leader since he is winning elections.

says BJP which lost Gorakhpur in UP....aap khud ka report card dekh lo

 

[vstol Jockey]

says BJP which lost Gorakhpur in UP....aap khud ka report card dekh lo

BJP voters are royal voters and do not come out to vote in by-elections. Compare the voting percentages in the BJP dominated areas and areas with substantial non BJP voters. You will realise that in general elections there will be no rise in the numbers in non BJP voter areas but there will be substantial increase in core BJP voter areas. Just an increase in 3% voting will create a wave for BJP.

 

[Guynextdoor]

BJP voters are royal voters and do not come out to vote in by-elections. Compare the voting percentages in the BJP dominated areas and areas with substantial non BJP voters. You will realise that in general elections there will be no rise in the numbers in non BJP voter areas but there will be substantial increase in core BJP voter areas. Just an increase in 3% voting will create a wave for BJP.

Gorakhpur is CM seat...if you don't have control even there then you know what fate BJP has. Even today Modi is crying about Congress this and that...people are watching him not congress. He has now fully got a reputation of not delivering. And saying ohhh but congress did this and that isn't helping. 'Nehru did this and tthat' may cut ice in your RSS shakha but if you aren't able to give jobs no one cares.

 

[vstol Jockey]

Gorakhpur is CM seat...if you don't have control even there then you know what fate BJP has. Even today Modi is crying about Congress this and that...people are watching him not congress. He has now fully got a reputation of not delivering. And saying ohhh but congress did this and that isn't helping. 'Nehru did this and tthat' may cut ice in your RSS shakha but if you aren't able to give jobs no one cares.

I had predicted the 2014 elections. I also predicted UP elections and was off target for Karnatak wherein I had predicted 115-120 seats but BJP got stuck at 106 seats. I am sure can wait for 2019 elections also. Modi sure knows what he is doing. he had stated very clearly when he took over, work for 4 yrs, fifth year is election year. The rise in MSP of Kharief crop and additional announcements for sugarcane farmers to follow will completely change the narrative.

 

[Guynextdoor]

I had predicted the 2014 elections. I also predicted UP elections and was off target for Karnatak wherein I had predicted 115-120 seats but BJP got stuck at 106 seats. I am sure can wait for 2019 elections also. Modi sure knows what he is doing. he had stated very clearly when he took over, work for 4 yrs, fifth year is election year. The rise in MSP of Kharief crop and additional announcements for sugarcane farmers to follow will completely change the narrative.

you are aware that all by-elections in karnataka have been won by congress? Basically people got disgusted with BJP horse trading and decided to reject them. They have lost all MP byelections too...they are now not capable of majority independently. You think raising one MSP is going to help? The joblessness, mismanagement, endemic corruption and complete incompetence and breakdown in governance is going to be forgotten because of one MSP price? or the enormous fuel price rise? I think you're off to a rough start here buddy.

Yogi is such a buffoon wherever he goes he makes opposition win. Kerala saw a resurgence of commies after he visited. People are scared that this will be their future. If they had said 'India cannot grow without UP growing and this is the man to grow UP' they would have got a big wave. That's what Nitish did in Bihar and Naidu did in AP. Instead they sent this clown to say how developed UP is and how Kerala should learn managing healcare in from UP...right after 20+ infants died due to mismangement. Then waste time on Gauraksha. These guys haven't got it...they think it's all just advertising. They're getting the boot.

 

[vstol Jockey]

you are aware that all by-elections in karnataka have been won by congress? Basically people got disgusted with BJP horse trading and decided to reject them. They have lost all MP byelections too...they are now not capable of majority independently. You think raising one MSP is going to help? The joblessness, mismanagement, endemic corruption and complete incompetence and breakdown in governance is going to be forgotten because of one MSP price? or the enormous fuel price rise? I think you're off to a rough start here buddy.

I do not buy your theory of joblessness, mismanagement except that of GST, corruption and incompetence. To the contrary, the corruption has gone down within the government but it is rampant in the lower echelons where the people are responsible. corruption attop is now non-existent The joblessness is surely a big lie being spread. How is it that communist states like Kerala and dictatorship like Bengal have provided jobs over one crore while everyother state has failed to generate even one job? Regarding incompetence, did we ever have such a small cabinet which exceeded every achievement of previous governments? Can you give me even one example of any minister from past governments who can be called better than Piyush Goyal, Nitin Gadkari, Rajnath Singh or Prabhu? Jai-Italy and Shurpnaka are congressmen in BJP. Please do not include them.
Regarding the fuel price, every state kept quite when fuel price went up and you will be shocked to know that every state also imposes nearly same amount of taxes on fuel as central government. The fuel price has now gone down. Finally, Congress won 2009 elections due to just higher MSP for wheat and Paddy.
The exports are on rise and economy is looking very good now. I can say this because I am in a biz wherein I am directly connected with this aspect of economy. And deal with top govt bureaucrats including ministers directly. I know the difference from 2014 to 2018. No one can teach me anything on this. What I do and who I am is known to @randomradio.

 

[Guynextdoor]

I do not buy your theory of joblessness, mismanagement except that of GST, corruption and incompetence. To the contrary, the corruption has gone down within the government but it is rampant in the lower echelons where the people are responsible. corruption attop is now non-existent The joblessness is surely a big lie being spread. How is it that communist states like Kerala and dictatorship like Bengal have provided jobs over one crore while everyother state has failed to generate even one job? Regarding incompetence, did we ever have such a small cabinet which exceeded every achievement of previous governments? Can you give me even one example of any minister from past governments who can be called better than Piyush Goyal, Nitin Gadkari, Rajnath Singh or Prabhu? Jai-Italy and Shurpnaka are congressmen in BJP. Please do not include them.
Regarding the fuel price, every state kept quite when fuel price went up and you will be shocked to know that every state also imposes nearly same amount of taxes on fuel as central government. The fuel price has now gone down. Finally, Congress won 2009 elections due to just higher MSP for wheat and Paddy.

In case you have been living in this world...
a) You think 100 crore was not offered to legislators in karnataka? That is not corruption at the highest level? If the MLAs and MPs being brought in through horse trading at every election are being paid this kind of money, you expect they will stop the IAS officers to be honest? Where do you think the top brass of the BJP is getting this cash? Obviously through corruption. Oh wait...you think they were offered money but not 100 crores, just 10s of crores....maybe 50 or 60 crores...waoww!!

b) Modi is the only PM in history of India to become a brand ambassador for a private company. He put his fully glowing gleffully smiling face in full page ads on Jio launch, thereby joining the ranks of Sunny Leone and Katrina Kaif among others. He didn't do it for money? You think Indira Gandhi would even THINK of stooping to such a level? SHe would make anyone who even made that suggestion walk the plank.

c) I'm sure the enormous deals and favorable treatments that Ambani and Adani have got doe not indicate corruption. Modi tried to get a billion dollar exceptional loan for Adani via SBI until it became so controversial he had to pull it

d) AMit shah (top echelon) is not corrupt....dude get real....

 

[Guynextdoor]

I do not buy your theory of joblessness, mismanagement except that of GST, corruption and incompetence. To the contrary, the corruption has gone down within the government but it is rampant in the lower echelons where the people are responsible. corruption attop is now non-existent The joblessness is surely a big lie being spread. How is it that communist states like Kerala and dictatorship like Bengal have provided jobs over one crore while everyother state has failed to generate even one job? Regarding incompetence, did we ever have such a small cabinet which exceeded every achievement of previous governments? Can you give me even one example of any minister from past governments who can be called better than Piyush Goyal, Nitin Gadkari, Rajnath Singh or Prabhu? Jai-Italy and Shurpnaka are congressmen in BJP. Please do not include them.
Regarding the fuel price, every state kept quite when fuel price went up and you will be shocked to know that every state also imposes nearly same amount of taxes on fuel as central government. The fuel price has now gone down. Finally, Congress won 2009 elections due to just higher MSP for wheat and Paddy.
The exports are on rise and economy is looking very good now. I can say this because I am in a biz wherein I am directly connected with this aspect of economy. And deal with top govt bureaucrats including ministers directly. I know the difference from 2014 to 2018. No one can teach me anything on this. What I do and who I am is known to @randomradio.

I forgot to add

a) Kerala is growing because of tourism, that stuff does add a lot of jobs and foreign exchange
b) Bengal is growing? Who gave you that idea? It's just as much a $hithole as it was before and I guess the bongs deserve it for assaulting us with endlessly boring art movies

 

[vstol Jockey]

In case you have been living in this world...
a) You think 100 crore was not offered to legislators in karnataka? That is not corruption at the highest level? If the MLAs and MPs being brought in through horse trading at every election are being paid this kind of money, you expect they will stop the IAS officers to be honest? Where do you think the top brass of the BJP is getting this cash? Obviously through corruption. Oh wait...you think they were offered money but not 100 crores, just 10s of crores....maybe 50 or 60 crores...waoww!!

b) Modi is the only PM in history of India to become a brand ambassador for a private company. He put his fully glowing gleffully smiling face in full page ads on Jio launch, thereby joining the ranks of Sunny Leone and Katrina Kaif among others. He didn't do it for money? You think Indira Gandhi would even THINK of stooping to such a level? SHe would make anyone who even made that suggestion walk the plank.

c) I'm sure the enormous deals and favorable treatments that Ambani and Adani have got doe not indicate corruption. Modi tried to get a billion dollar exceptional loan for Adani via SBI until it became so controversial he had to pull it

d) AMit shah (top echelon) is not corrupt....dude get real....

A. Your statement is wrong anf full of lies as the so called lady in those tapes had denied any such calls and she was the wife of a congress legislature. Why did congress refuse forensic examination of those tapes?

B. A PM is not just the PM of government of India but of whole nation including business houses. can you please explain the behaviour of other heads of Governments who came to India to further the business of their companies? What wrong did he do by endorsing an Indian Company?

C. The loan was never given and your statement is a gas balloon because a loan is sanctioned by a bank based on certain parameters. I have not been able to get even a non fund based limit twice the size of my 200 crore fixed deposit thanks to Mallaya and Nirav Modi. earlier I could take 10 times of this amount as non fund based limit. I am now negotiating with international banks and have completely dumped Indian Banks. What will you call me? Another Adani or Ambani like cheat for denying Indian banks such a huge amount of money? Long back Modi was forced to take back his statement when he said that a bizman takes larger risk than a soldier. trust me, I have been both. As an Officer in IN, it was only my life which was at stake and GOI wud have taken care of my children and family by ensuring full pay till my retirement and pension thereafter. But as a bizman, I take risk even on the future of my children and my family is part of the risks which I take. A soldier commits himself, a bizman bets his family.

D. please show one case of corruption against Amit Shan? Even though I know that your statement might be partially true. But is it personal corruption or party funds? I am not saying that he is corrupt.

I forgot to add

a) Kerala is growing because of tourism, that stuff does add a lot of jobs and foreign exchange.

b) Bengal is growing? Who gave you that idea? It's just as much a $hithole as it was before and I guess the bongs deserve it for assaulting us with endlessly boring art movies

A. Kerala gets max money as remittances from ME and tourism is secondary.

B. How do you support the figures given out and touted by the opposition about the growth of jobs in that state if this is what you believe?

 

[suryakiran]

says BJP which lost Gorakhpur in UP....aap khud ka report card dekh lo

The fact that you have to show a Gorakhpur in UP to showcase Rahul Gandhi, speaks volumes in itself. And this should tell you, why your logic of Rahul Gandhi will lead because he wins elections falls by the wayside.

Mera report card bahut acha hai. No tension.

 

[_Anonymous_]

Opinion: Kejriwal's Next Steps After Huge Victory Over Modi

 

[Arvind]

Opinion: Kejriwal's Next Steps After Huge Victory Over Modi

TBH, Delhi LG is an idiot and the strategy to engage AK using LG was a non starter.

 

[BlackOpsIndia]

Opinion: Kejriwal's Next Steps After Huge Victory Over Modi

Victory?!!!

Yuuuuuuge Victory!

Seriously! What's new in this judgment? Anything which was not already there? Kejri asked for more and got nothing, nothing at all, if some pep talk of "will of people" is victory than I don't know what to say. Court decided for status quo which is also in the Constitution.

The early this time pass delusion of full statehood to delhi taken care of the better. Delhi is fortunate to have representatives in all three houses, RS,LS and Delhi Assembly, most capital cities barely have a representative in center forget local assembly.