do you know how much time is spent on planning for
1) elections
2) kumbh mela?
it also does not require people to be socially distanced to prepare for those events.
your logic is just amazing though. keep it coming.
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1) elections
2) kumbh mela?
it also does not require people to be socially distanced to prepare for those events.
your logic is just amazing though. keep it coming.
Migrant labourers don’t use android and iPhones (at least a lot of them) , so any app is useless. Even internet based reservation was discarded due to this reason.
UPSRTC Buses from Delhi Border to UP is running on demand basis since last month when Delhi Govt forced migrants to leave. Trains are running since last two weeks.
I’m not sure about the bus ticket fare right now, but earlier buses were free of cost.
There is confusion regarding the train and bus fares though and govt should have done better to clear this confusion. As far as I know except for the MH,WB and KL,
(Earlier Gujarat too) all other state migrants are travelling free of cost. These states are refusing to spend money on transportation and demanding PM CARE money to be used for this. That’s why all this propaganda is being spread right now.
Agra is no Wuhaan, far from it,(you can PM me the videos if you like). It was a local outbreak due to poor containment at the start of the pandemic.
Dude there is a prescribed guideline how to manage an epidemic of infectious disease. If you have time, search about it.
Its mitigation is very different from organising a religious gathering.
Its obvious. you have a problem with the appearance of the PM on social media. time for the PM to take agyaatvaas into Thailand/Bangkok.
maybe go to italy for a bit.
or keep quite like a burdened, turbaned sikh.
how dare he agitate you with his optics. does he not know to keep his place? sheesh
My intention was not to compare the individuals but their use of Social media as a tool for their political agenda.
He does organise some Show off international events like Trump meet and Kashmir tour to European MPs , but they were of different significance and don’t not affect local politics much.
Not true, minorty of them (older ones) are on feature phones, younger ones use Android, almost all of them, a person can give information about whole cluster, you don't need everyone to have it. IRCTC reservation is technological marvel, it is not discard due to less availability of Android but poor design. The App need a plugin to connect to another app and then you have to set PIN and Password, not to mention the data it ask inside, the searching of train and then during reservation money deducted reservation not done move.
No bus, after initial crowd of Anand Vihar no bus, not even private vehicles was allowed. Later even doctors and other essential service staff was restricted/harassed to enter Ghaziabad if they work in Delhi and lives in Ghaziabad.
No Buses. Ghaziabad administration has tweeted to the effect.
Ok if you say so.
Try to understand that you can’t rely on smartphones to reach to each and every migrant. Clustering is not very useful. You can’t book tickets of more than few limited personal for maintaining the transparency in booking system.
This notification is not for migrant labourers. Read it again. It’s for overseas immigrants who already spends 50k to reach India. This 2-3 k is not much for them considering the cost the UPSRTC has to bear.
Buses specially for migrants going to Lucknow tonight
There is full details available for these buses and their destination on google search page.
IMHO, Modi should have allowed an advance notice of lockdown to let people move back to their respective places. The intention was good but poorly executed without proper thought. I would like you to recollect my earlier post in which I wondered if Modi takes some bhaang/dhatura while taking such decisions.
He simply underestimated the problem it will create, just like demonetisation
At least he should have allowed migrants to move before lockdown extension.
UPSRTC is a government carrier not private tour operator who will extort 10 times the fare from people who lost their job or stranded outside. They run in loss during normal time and they run in profit, they run to increase mobility and economic activity, to ensure connectivity, making profit is not their primary aim. There is hardly any additional cost since the fare is already charged per km, what cost you are implying that UPSRTC will incur?
That notification was later withdrawn when media took them to task.
On one hand you talk about Billions and then when it comes to reality you charge more than normal time.
Normally UPSRTC charges only a fraction of the cost it bears, from the passengers. You can compare fairs of UPSRTC with the private operators (also the space and facilities in govt buses are much more than what Pvt operators offers in same price bracket)
During this pandemic Buses are undergoing extensive decontamination and are proving masks and other things.
Also there is a cap to numbers of passengers in a bus. Also passengers and the staff is undergoing through screening procedures and the meal is also provided by the UPSRTC.
So the cost is going up.
Not true. UPSRTC was in 700 crore Profit as of December 2019.
1% Sodium Hypochlorite is recommended by Government to be used as disinfectant.
10% Industrial Sodium Hypochlorite costs around 40-45Rs, you can dilute it and it will barely cost 5Rs/ltr. A very generous spray disinfecting whole bus would cost barely 200-300Rs. Let's assume only 1 person per seat (which is not reality). Roadways buses have 3seats on one side and 2 on other so instead of 5 passengers only 2 will go i.e. 40% occupancy. That 1.1/KM will translate to what, 2.75 let's round it off to 3 to include disinfectant charges. That's still 3 times less than what they wanted to charge.
You are arguing for the sake of it now.
Again you are oversimplifying it. Do you know from where the UPSRTC gets maximum profit? It’s not janata buses but those luxury Volvos and Scanias. There is no profit in normal Janata buses, except for the courier and other luggage they carry.
It’s not just NaOCl but the whole infra and manpower required to sanitize each and every buses after each trip. It’s very costly and Time consuming process.
Don’t forget extra manpower required for screening and sanitation and meals during stoppage and masks provided during the trip.
Same NaOCl is used to sanitize hospitals
BSNL tells Rehana Fatima to ‘compulsorily retire’
Staff ReporterKOCHI 15 MAY 2020 04:23 IST
UPDATED: 15 MAY 2020 15:42 IST
Will take legal recourse, says activist
Activist Rehana Fatima, 33, who stirred a controversy two years ago following her attempt to enter the Sabarimala temple, has been ordered to go on compulsory retirement by BSNL.
Ms. Fatima, a telecom technician at the Palarivattom exchange, received the order from her controlling officer on Wednesday. She said she would take legal recourse against the order.
BSNL instituted an internal inquiry following her arrest by the Pathanamthitta police on May 27, 2018, on charge of fomenting enmity between communities by posting religiously controversial comments and pictures on Facebook pertaining to the entry of women of all ages to Sabarimala. She was placed on suspension.
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The inquiry found her guilty and the order was issued asking her to go on compulsory retirement with immediate effect.
The order said it was not acceptable that Ms. Fatima “was ignorant of the consequences of her actions, as public tension was already mounting up at the point of time due to the movement against women entry in Sabarimala.” Hence, her acts were intentional.
“The action comes at a time when the police have not even registered a chargesheet in my case while proceedings are under way at the Central Administrative Tribunal on a petition I filed against my suspension,” said Ms. Fatima.
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Staff ReporterKOCHI 15 MAY 2020 04:23 IST
UPDATED: 15 MAY 2020 15:42 IST
Will take legal recourse, says activist
Activist Rehana Fatima, 33, who stirred a controversy two years ago following her attempt to enter the Sabarimala temple, has been ordered to go on compulsory retirement by BSNL.
Ms. Fatima, a telecom technician at the Palarivattom exchange, received the order from her controlling officer on Wednesday. She said she would take legal recourse against the order.
BSNL instituted an internal inquiry following her arrest by the Pathanamthitta police on May 27, 2018, on charge of fomenting enmity between communities by posting religiously controversial comments and pictures on Facebook pertaining to the entry of women of all ages to Sabarimala. She was placed on suspension.
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The inquiry found her guilty and the order was issued asking her to go on compulsory retirement with immediate effect.
The order said it was not acceptable that Ms. Fatima “was ignorant of the consequences of her actions, as public tension was already mounting up at the point of time due to the movement against women entry in Sabarimala.” Hence, her acts were intentional.
“The action comes at a time when the police have not even registered a chargesheet in my case while proceedings are under way at the Central Administrative Tribunal on a petition I filed against my suspension,” said Ms. Fatima.
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Source?
Seriously man? There are no sophisticated tools required neither does you need additional labour, driver and conductors are more than capable to do it, still if you want add salary of one-two person that will sanitize all the buses, Kejri offered it for free for everyone.
There is unwritten rule in UPSRTC that Conductors and Drivers never pay for meal. They stop their bus at Dhaba which offers them free food and overpriced items bought by passengers make up for the meals but since hotels are closed they won't get it free. They won't get enroute either and carry from home like they should but still if you are adamant add 250 per head for two full meals for 10hr 500 km journey, which will translate to 500Rs, i.e. 1Rs per km and for 25 passenger it will be .04, add masks too and this will become .05Rs per km.
This is becoming waste of time now.
All STCs work on “No Profit No Loss” basis except Luxury Buses which are run on contract basis and are profit driven.
It’s a rule in India.
Honestly speaking only three out of 54 STCs are profitable in India. UP, KA and MH. All others are in huge losses. Many went bankrupt and shut shop like MP
No driver or conductor washes or do sanitation , it’s not their job.
It’s done by qualified person.
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It's impossible to move tens or even hundreds of millions of people in just a few days. They would need a week or two at the minimum. Then there would be no point of the lockdown.
The problem is a lockdown is only for the privileged. The govt is helpless in such a case.
BSNL tells Rehana Fatima to ‘compulsorily retire’
Staff ReporterKOCHI 15 MAY 2020 04:23 IST
UPDATED: 15 MAY 2020 15:42 IST
Will take legal recourse, says activist
Activist Rehana Fatima, 33, who stirred a controversy two years ago following her attempt to enter the Sabarimala temple, has been ordered to go on compulsory retirement by BSNL.
Ms. Fatima, a telecom technician at the Palarivattom exchange, received the order from her controlling officer on Wednesday. She said she would take legal recourse against the order.
BSNL instituted an internal inquiry following her arrest by the Pathanamthitta police on May 27, 2018, on charge of fomenting enmity between communities by posting religiously controversial comments and pictures on Facebook pertaining to the entry of women of all ages to Sabarimala. She was placed on suspension.
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The inquiry found her guilty and the order was issued asking her to go on compulsory retirement with immediate effect.
The order said it was not acceptable that Ms. Fatima “was ignorant of the consequences of her actions, as public tension was already mounting up at the point of time due to the movement against women entry in Sabarimala.” Hence, her acts were intentional.
“The action comes at a time when the police have not even registered a chargesheet in my case while proceedings are under way at the Central Administrative Tribunal on a petition I filed against my suspension,” said Ms. Fatima.
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this bloody person is not a hindu, not a devotee and not an ayyppa believer.. why does she want to get into a temple? crazy times we live in. mutilate all beliefs of the majority while sacitfying and glorifying the most criminal of the fundamental islamists.
These two are different things. Overall profit can be made by any segment and can be used for anything to achieve no profit no loss.
Unless you have some source or data to back the claim up its useless. My hometown has buses to Delhi every 5-10 min, there is barely one or two AC bus in whole day. Ticket of normal bus is around 260-270 and for AC one (not sleeper) is around 340-350. That's why I doubt your claim that AC buses somehow churning all the profit, their frequency is so less and difference in fare is not like Indian Railways. You are just making things up to somehow argue for sake of it. I prefer not to engage like this, good day.
You are talking about Allahabad?
Alld to Lok Normal has
Are you talking about Allahabad?
Alld to Delhi janta fare approx 500 JanRath(AL) AC 2 axle 1500
AC Multiaxle Scania/Volvo approx 2300-2700 .
(There may be some error as it’s based on memory of my last travel )
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