Indian supersonic missile reached Mian Channu in Pakistan : ISPR



It was ours.

How TF can a missile misfire?
Also, GoI doesn't say it was BrahMos, just a 'missile'. But what are the implications of this, what can Pak/China salvage from the wreckage of the missile?
It is indeed a big question mark over the production quality/built-in safe checks etc. Hope a transparent investigation will be done with exemplary punishment.
 
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It was ours.

How TF can a missile misfire?
Also, GoI doesn't say it was BrahMos, just a 'missile'. But what are the implications of this, what can Pak/China salvage from the wreckage of the missile?

There's no way to tell if it was accidental or deliberate. Makes sense that the govt would say it was the former.

Looking at the wreckage, I doubt there will be much to steal from it.
 
There's no way to tell if it was accidental or deliberate. Makes sense that the govt would say it was the former.

Looking at the wreckage, I doubt there will be much to steal from it.
A very big question is why was a deployed missile missing its warhead?
Also, if it was accidentally fired, why didn't the self destruct kick in? What would have happened it went towards our own places?
 
There's no way to tell if it was accidental or deliberate. Makes sense that the govt would say it was the former.

Looking at the wreckage, I doubt there will be much to steal from it.
Booster is intact, mostly an accidental firing. And Pakistan just got everything they want. Launch location, our target location so that they can reinforce AD and finally something from wreck too.
A very big question is why was a deployed missile missing its warhead?
Also, if it was accidentally fired, why didn't the self destruct kick in? What would have happened it went towards our own places?
Somebody tweeted in morning that by seeing the Russian equipments perfomance, there is no surprise in self destruct mechanism failure too.
 
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And the current state of military defence industrial affairs saga continues unchecked. No fingers raised in Mirage accident, none will be raised now as well despite it being a big international embarrassment for the nation reeling under doubtful QA/QC/audit etc.
Wheather Pakistan gains anything from this is secondary matter, what's more important is that another country's civilians life were endangered and we handed over technology in gold platter to enemy nation is worth concerning about.
 
And the current state of military defence industrial affairs saga continues unchecked. No fingers raised in Mirage accident, none will be raised now as well despite it being a big international embarrassment for the nation reeling under doubtful QA/QC/audit etc.
Wheather Pakistan gains anything from this is secondary matter, what's more important is that another country's civilians life were endangered and we handed over technology in gold platter to enemy nation is worth concerning about.
Forget about everything else, if Pakistan had a retaliating measurements like US or Russia, they could have launch nuclear missiles on us.
 
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A very big question is why was a deployed missile missing its warhead?
Also, if it was accidentally fired, why didn't the self destruct kick in? What would have happened it went towards our own places?
What would have been the repercussions if GOD forbid (if there is one) projectile would had made contact with a civil airline jet or even a military jet? Even when there is no loss of life, GOI should offer compensation for the damages incurred to civilian infrastructure without any precondition, keeping Indo-Pak hostility on the side for this accident.
 
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Forget about everything else, if Pakistan had a retaliating measurements like US or Russia, they could have launch nuclear missiles on us.
Have to agree they acted with maturity this time and spoke only after gathering all the relevant information. They showed some military preparedness as well especially the time of early launch detection alert till fading of track.
Target acquisition, what was the target ?
 
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Our silence could very well stem from the fact that it had nothing to do with us.

It is now official. It was indeed Brahmos.... 😊
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Personally, I think it was deliberate. It's possible even the seeker was removed, not just the warhead.
What did we gain by doing this?

Have to agree they acted with maturity this time and spoke only after gathering all the relevant information. They showed some military preparedness as well especially the time of early launch detection alert till fading of track.

I believe in a very simple theory - if something is too good to be true, its most likely, not true. When was the last time we have seen Pak so well behaved? The answer is never, the retaliated on the very second day of Balakote despite their narrative being "we hit trees and crows". This was a cruise missile inside their country borders FFS!
 
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What did we gain by doing this?


I believe in a very simple theory - if something is too good to be true, its most likely, not true. When was the last time we have seen Pak so well behaved? The answer is never, the retaliated on the very second day of Balakote despite their narrative being "we hit trees and crows". This was a cruise missile inside their country borders FFS!
And you seem to be jubilant about that without even contemplating about not only the epic embarrassment but also the repeated failure of defence military industrial affairs saga and the storage/testing bombings? Despite raising questions over & over again, many a times resulting in fatalities?
 
I was having a virtual tour of a base just last sunday in the most recent visit and that again didn't change my opinion. However when one comes to such online forums, it turns to super-duper heavyweight power! I have had my fill of seeing long written essays filling pages after pages of worthless bravado and complacency...
 
And not to forget unflinching belief in things happening going as per the plan even in worst phases of military affairs, to top it of full commitment in exaggerations while disparaging opposite side of the gallery without an ounce of evidence. JUST LIKE THAT!
 
And you seem to be jubilant about that without even contemplating about not only the epic embarrassment but also the repeated failure of defence military industrial affairs saga and the storage/testing bombings? Despite raising questions over & over again, many a times resulting in fatalities?

There is no jubilation here. However, things really don't make sense here.




The statement is embarassing, no doubt, however, launching a missile "by mistake", i simply don't buy it. What did we gain, what's the larger picture here, if there was any objective behind this, we will never know (most likely). However, I don't see any reason to credit the Pakistani establishment for their "mature & restrained" behaviour. If they have done so, there has to be a reason behind this.

As for coincidences -

1) Plane crash in the exact same location.
2) Missile allowed to fly for 5 - 6 mins, allowed to enter Pak after a "misfire"?
3) There was a NOTAM in place from Pak side in the same area if I am not mistaken.
4) Pak AD tracked it and did nothing about it.

How do we explain all these?
 
There is no jubilation here. However, things really don't make sense here.




The statement is embarassing, no doubt, however, launching a missile "by mistake", i simply don't buy it. What did we gain, what's the larger picture here, if there was any objective behind this, we will never know (most likely). However, I don't see any reason to credit the Pakistani establishment for their "mature & restrained" behaviour. If they have done so, there has to be a reason behind this.

As for coincidences -

1) Plane crash in the exact same location.
2) Missile allowed to fly for 5 - 6 mins, allowed to enter Pak after a "misfire"?
3) There was a NOTAM in place from Pak side in the same area if I am not mistaken.
4) Pak AD tracked it and did nothing about it.

How do we explain all these?
Please read my post about the killing of Kandhar Hijacker. I had told there will be more. Brahmos has the kind of kinetic impact due to its velocity that it can flatten few buildings without a warhead.
 
Was it even a brahmos or something else ?

Given things are quiet why would a brahmos not be in storage and put on a launcher. The base commander, unit commander all will need to be sleeping for such a thing to happen.

Someone on this forum suggested it to be an S-400 missile. Could it be an AD unit running a test did a live fire. Given we just inducted those I would hazard a guess and suggest the procedures will be the most vulnerable there.