Indian supersonic missile reached Mian Channu in Pakistan : ISPR

[Defc0n]

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Was it even a brahmos or something else ?

Given things are quiet why would a brahmos not be in storage and put on a launcher. The base commander, unit commander all will need to be sleeping for such a thing to happen.

Someone on this forum suggested it to be an S-400 missile. Could it be an AD unit running a test did a live fire. Given we just inducted those I would hazard a guess and suggest the procedures will be the most vulnerable there.

The debris suggests that it was a BrahMos. Furthermore, S400 cannot do the damage that was photograh depicted. As to the how and why of it, your guess is as good as mine.

 

[Hydra]

There is no jubilation here. However, things really don't make sense here.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1502284434036649988

https://twitter.com/x/status/1502284436779728898

The statement is embarassing, no doubt, however, launching a missile "by mistake", i simply don't buy it. What did we gain, what's the larger picture here, if there was any objective behind this, we will never know (most likely). However, I don't see any reason to credit the Pakistani establishment for their "mature & restrained" behaviour. If they have done so, there has to be a reason behind this.

As for coincidences -

1) Plane crash in the exact same location.
2) Missile allowed to fly for 5 - 6 mins, allowed to enter Pak after a "misfire"?
3) There was a NOTAM in place from Pak side in the same area if I am not mistaken.
4) Pak AD tracked it and did nothing about it.

How do we explain all these?

You cannot engage Brahmos missile with AD system existing with Pakistan., simple. They didn't try to engage Mig25 too, some three decades back.

 

[randomradio]

What did we gain by doing this?

The PA is trying to subvert democracy by trying to remove Dimran. It's in our interests to have him in power. He's like an older version of RaGa.

 

[randomradio]

You cannot engage Brahmos missile with AD system existing with Pakistan., simple. They didn't try to engage Mig25 too, some three decades back.

HQ-9 should be able to. Different story whether it was present or active.

 

[vstol Jockey]

Was it even a brahmos or something else ?

Given things are quiet why would a brahmos not be in storage and put on a launcher. The base commander, unit commander all will need to be sleeping for such a thing to happen.

Someone on this forum suggested it to be an S-400 missile. Could it be an AD unit running a test did a live fire. Given we just inducted those I would hazard a guess and suggest the procedures will be the most vulnerable there.

It was a Brahmos without warhead.

 

[Defc0n]

The PA is trying to subvert democracy by trying to remove Dimran. It's in our interests to have him in power. He's like an older version of RaGa.

And how exactly does this help in doing that?

HQ-9 should be able to. Different story whether it was present or active.

Wonder why Pak won't have them activated.

 

[Saaho]

WTF!!! Bloody hell, who is running the show in Indian Army? They accidentally fired a missile?

 

[Sathya]

Wth, last time Pak was offered deniability.
This time we exercised ourselves,
Seems both the time, we forced the pakistani to play along with us.

 

[lcafanboy]

There's no way to tell if it was accidental or deliberate. Makes sense that the govt would say it was the former.

Looking at the wreckage, I doubt there will be much to steal from it.

It's more like what is shown in Hindi movies. How a police officer fires a bullet just near the ear (kanpati) of a villain during interrogation in a police station after which the villain starts blurting out everything.
I think Modi government wanted something from Pakistan and they may not be cooperating. Now they may be more than cooperative....

 

[RISING SUN]

There is no jubilation here. However, things really don't make sense here.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1502284434036649988

https://twitter.com/x/status/1502284436779728898

The statement is embarassing, no doubt, however, launching a missile "by mistake", i simply don't buy it. What did we gain, what's the larger picture here, if there was any objective behind this, we will never know (most likely). However, I don't see any reason to credit the Pakistani establishment for their "mature & restrained" behaviour. If they have done so, there has to be a reason behind this.

As for coincidences -

1) Plane crash in the exact same location.
2) Missile allowed to fly for 5 - 6 mins, allowed to enter Pak after a "misfire"?
3) There was a NOTAM in place from Pak side in the same area if I am not mistaken.
4) Pak AD tracked it and did nothing about it.

How do we explain all these?

Things wouldn't make more sense when you realise Australian military branch head was there in Pokhran range on the day of misfire...

What we buy or don't buy personally means zilch in international arena. By tomorrow it would be reported throughout major international news channels and MEA/Indian officials would be scrambling to avoid the major impact on its military defence industrial complex credibility if they haven't already.

 

[Jaymax]

It was a Brahmos without warhead.

If it was a Brahmos - its EXTREMELY unlikely this was a mistake.

 

[Hydra]

HQ-9 should be able to. Different story whether it was present or active.

We advertised that only Barak 8 is capable to do that. But i beleive s400 too can. s300 & its ripoffs, i dont think so...

WTF!!! Bloody hell, who is running the show in Indian Army? They accidentally fired a missile?

What Hollywood script writers are done in silver screen had materialized by us in real world.

 

[randomradio]

And how exactly does this help in doing that?

Who knows what sort of manoeuvres Pak forces were making during this time...

So PA wants Dimran removed from power, 'cause he's not toeing their line, hence the no confidence motion. But Dimran is using the anti-corruption drive excuse to arrest opposition members. This will obviously irk PA, so they can even think of a coup if necessary, if not threaten or arrest ruling party members to vote against their own party. And India fires the missile to warn PA from crossing the line, meaning India is ready to "aggressively" protect democracy in Pakistan through indirect means. Plus, an excuse of external threat can give Dimran more executive powers and delay or prevent his ouster.

Wonder why Pak won't have them activated.

Should be pretty normal, 'cause it's peacetime. SAMs don't function 24/7.

 

[randomradio]

We advertised that only Barak 8 is capable to do that. But i beleive s400 too can. s300 & its ripoffs, i dont think so...

Depends on the trajectory and flight profile.

If the Brahmos is flying at high altitude, most modern AD systems today can take it out. The minute it drops down to the tree line, very few ADS can defeat it. The trajectory was simple enough for it to be shot down. Changing directions more frequently complicates the kill chain.

 

[Hydra]

If it was a Brahmos - its EXTREMELY unlikely this was a mistake.

May be course deviation during test firing due to corrupted GPS signal. It happened in past, infact first ever failed Brahmos test was due to GPS issues.

 

[Hydra]

Who knows what sort of manoeuvres Pak forces were making during this time...

So PA wants Dimran removed from power, 'cause he's not toeing their line, hence the no confidence motion. But Dimran is using the anti-corruption drive excuse to arrest opposition members. This will obviously irk PA, so they can even think of a coup if necessary, if not threaten or arrest ruling party members to vote against their own party. And India fires the missile to warn PA from crossing the line, meaning India is ready to "aggressively" protect democracy in Pakistan through indirect means. Plus, an excuse of external threat can give Dimran more executive powers and delay or prevent his ouster.



Should be pretty normal, 'cause it's peacetime. SAMs don't function 24/7.

Somebody hacked your account or whatt? You never mocked others like this, infact mocking won't bring enemy down. He is having a name, use it.

 

[randomradio]

If it was a Brahmos - its EXTREMELY unlikely this was a mistake.

Pretty much impossible to be a mistake. There will obviously be a pretty long SoP for the firing sequence. Hell, I'd say just getting the launcher into a launching position should go through a lengthy decision chain.

 

[RISING SUN]

If it was a Brahmos - its EXTREMELY unlikely this was a mistake.

It's was most probably Brahmos, however most worrying part is failure in self destruct mechanism and movement crossing multiple active civilian flight corridors avoiding the flights. It was as if it was following waypoints with pre-fed guidance input. Probably this missile was part of already designated lot for offensive operations, however someone botched up big time resulting in huge embarrassment (my conspiracy theory).

 

[Ankit Kumar]

Without a target , how come accidentally fired missile traveled that far? And self destruction, why wasn't that activated?

 

[Saaho]

What Hollywood script writers are done in silver screen had materialized by us in real world.

There are way too many unlikely things happening here.

1. This was no user trial... Who the hell conducts user trial near border? And that too without NOTAM.
2. This was no deployed missile... why the hell warhead was not mated with missile?
So the question arises, what the hell this was?

Pakistan has announced it is making its supersonic missile but then there is a copy of Brahmos that exists with China having more or less identical parameters. So it will be mighty easy to get that copy.

There is some skull-duggrey going on here. It was fired from Punjab, into civilian area of Punjab Pakistan. If Pakistan would have retaliated, it would have hit some place in Punjab.... Only explanation is it is some kind of act to provoke a conflict. It can be even Indian politics in play. I will not put it beyond Congress types to do a swan song like this in Punjab. Or some one is paid by foreign intelligence. Or someone in the Army got drunk. What so ever, it is a really really shoddy conduct.