Indian supersonic missile reached Mian Channu in Pakistan : ISPR

_Anonymous_ programmed it. The missile was just trying to get away from him.
Paddy , I don't quite expect you to have lived upto your folks expectations but then if I were in their place I'd not have any in the first place .

In any case , the least you could do is try be a bit more mature at your age. Not for our sake or yours but think of your folks . I mean which ma or pa would like to see their child play games online aged 55 competing with pre teens & winning only by cheating or stumble upon them taking vicarious pleasure viewing anime web series.
 
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News18: Move Forward as Neighbour, India Tells Pak, Rejects Demand for Joint Probe in Accidental Missile Launch.
Just so you know. The mechanical maintenance or decoupling with the war head cant be done in the field. The missile canister has to be sent to Hyderabad workshop at IBC where there is a lengthy process of opening the canister performing the maintenance and resealing the canister. Check out brahmos website it mentions maintenance in the Hyderabad facility.

And if the maintenance was being done on the missile it has to be slided out and put on a workbench. So the missile doesn’t automatically float in the air align itself vertically and launch. And if only software maintain is being done the missile canisters would still be in horizontal state on the launcher, there are n number of levers to be pulled on the trunk to make it vertical and get it into launch configuration. The maintenance theory is wrong.

I would go with either a sending a message or what @Nilgiri mention about probing enemy defense. I fo have a training simulation going wrong theory but youll have to be extremely unlucky to pull that off.
Maintaince doesn't mean directly on the hardware only, it could indicate towards software/interface as well?
 
I speculate its part of routine X-tests (might as well use up older brahmos as they approach expiry).

Carry an ELINT package (with relevant comms and maybe even own airborne bird further back)...given the specific wargaming needed for this system vis vis penaids and such....a routine intel heads up on when they will be needed. What better way than to do it on the system (with its speed and RCS) itself.

That's only reason to be testing in this area hugging the border IMO.

This time the last few minutes had a glitch and it landed and (prob safety fuse) destructed on the other side.

The media insider of this government has confirmed the embarrassing *censored*up. No need to second guess at this point.

Pakistani questions are legit. Why was this not communicated through proper channels before the Pakistani claim?

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The truth about presence of many commercial flights in the area and along the path of the missile flight is shown below. It is very surprising that a missile gets accidently fired within and fron an area which has no commercial traffic and is clear of all airways.
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The flight profile of this accidently fired missile is typically like this.
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so at no stage was any commercial flight endangered and PAF had no reason to hold back interception of this missile if they had tracked it from launch till impact.
 
All the communication frequencies and encrypted data fed in the missiles should be changed. Also the locations of radars which communicated with the missile.
 

The media insider of this government has confirmed the embarrassing *censored*up. No need to second guess at this point.

Pakistani questions are legit. Why was this not communicated through proper channels before the Pakistani claim?

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The entire episode was honestly not right.
If we are able to answer few queries , the picture will be clear.
Will they always remove the war head during routine maintenance ?
Do they have facilities to remove war head in Sirsa to do such a kind of maintenance?
Why neither Pakistan nor India didnt raise this issue immediately after the incident?
Pakistan was able to announce the Balakot strike within few hours once the strike happened even before India .
But now they took 24 hrs ? Why?
Are they expecting something from our side to build a counter narrative like they did after Balakot ?
S400 theory was possible because on same day , same place and same time a PAF jet was crashed.
But since evidence shows it was a Brahmos we can remove that possibility .
Proper procedure was there to inform Pakistan is accident happens.

It was an operational unit means the way points would be always in West .But here it turned to South and then to West means they had reprogrammed it purposefully.

The images shown in internet is not convincing that it was just a no warhead strike. One building structure was fully collapsed .

The response from our side is weird .
It appears they are unapologetic even though they offered apology.

What was in that building ?
All the communication frequencies and encrypted data fed in the missiles should be changed. Also the locations of radars which communicated with the missile.
Only if this was a genuine accident .
The truth about presence of many commercial flights in the area and along the path of the missile flight is shown below. It is very surprising that a missile gets accidently fired within and fron an area which has no commercial traffic and is clear of all airways.
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The flight profile of this accidently fired missile is typically like this.
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so at no stage was any commercial flight endangered and PAF had no reason to hold back interception of this missile if they had tracked it from launch till impact.

By all means this was seem intentional.
Did they target somebody?

Why Pakistan took 24 hrs to respond?
 
Who told this? They might have responded within hours through hotline. Public announcement can follow up later.

Like what they did in Balakot ?
They had responded within hrs .And if there was such hotline Indian officials could had already informed us about the matter .
 
Why Pakistan took 24 hrs to respond?
It seems to be a hit job against some HVT. To ensure that a deniability is maintained, the warhead was removed. Pakistanis were informed within an hour. It took them time to clean up the area of all the telltale signs of anyone being killed. The removal of warhead was important to avoid anykind of collateral damage to civilian population. The normal warhead size of land attack Brahmos is close to 400kgs. You can imagine that entire village could have been taken out if the missile had the warhead fitted. It seems to be a very calculated and well planned strike which struck only the targeted buildings and brought them down thru its sheer kinetic force.
 
Maintaince doesn't mean directly on the hardware only, it could indicate towards software/interface as well?
Im speculating here with very little know how, maybe software update could be done in the field but the software alone doesn’t launch the missles there are number of mechanical steps obviously.
 
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Im speculating here with very little know how, maybe software update could be done in the field but the software alone doesn’t launch the missles there are number of mechanical steps obviously.
to be very honest with you all, no single person can launch any of these missiles. Just like in our warships, the missile launch requires authentication from the Gunnery Officer and CO. Both of them have a key each, the GO starts the count down for launch on the orders of the CO and when the missile reaches ready status, he informs the CO that missile is ready for launch. After that on the instructions of CO, GO inserts his key into the system to make the firing circuit active which has two circuit breakers, one for GO and other for CO. After GO inserts his key and rotates it, The CO inserts his key and rotates it. It is only then that the firing circuit is activated and the launch button becomes active. This is standard operating procedure onboard all our ships. same has been built into these tactical missiles like Brahmos. Nuke armed versions also follow the same procedure but they need additional launch authorisation codes from PM. It is same even for the Nukes onboard our Subs.
 
to be very honest with you all, no single person can launch any of these missiles. Just like in our warships, the missile launch requires authentication from the Gunnery Officer and CO. Both of them have a key each, the GO starts the count down for launch on the orders of the CO and when the missile reaches ready status, he informs the CO that missile is ready for launch. After that on the instructions of CO, GO inserts his key into the system to make the firing circuit active which has two circuit breakers, one for GO and other for CO. After GO inserts his key and rotates it, The CO inserts his key and rotates it. It is only then that the firing circuit is activated and the launch button becomes active. This is standard operating procedure onboard all our ships. same has been built into these tactical missiles like Brahmos. Nuke armed versions also follow the same procedure but they need additional launch authorisation codes from PM. It is same even for the Nukes onboard our Subs.


So it's a clear case of launch keys theft or sabotage of coordinates fed into missile. If Pakistanis are behind this or the Chinese, then they should be made responsible for this. India should investigate it from this angle. Last time confidential hardrives were stolen from INS Vikramaditya and till now no result.
 
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Im speculating here with very little know how, maybe software update could be done in the field but the software alone doesn’t launch the missles there are number of mechanical steps obviously.
That is applicable to strategic weapons & nuke. If you are bringing such tortuous sop for launching a field weapon, the war will be over before launching the platform.
 
So it's a clear case of launch keys theft or sabotage of coordinates fed into missile. If Pakistanis are behind this or the Chinese, then they should be made responsible for this. India should investigate it from this angle. Last time confidential hardrives were stolen from INS Vikramaditya and till now no result.
You did not get my whole point. I am telling you that it was not an accidental launch but a well planned launch. The Keys are kept in separate lockers. The GO of the ship keeps it in his personal locker and the CO in his personal locker. These keys are withdrawn and a log entry is made whenever a missile launch is to be done and both, GO+CO wear them in their neck. These keys can not be touched by anyone other than the custodian.
 
You did not get my whole point. I am telling you that it was not an accidental launch but a well planned launch. The Keys are kept in separate lockers. The GO of the ship keeps it in his personal locker and the CO in his personal locker. These keys are withdrawn and a log entry is made whenever a missile launch is to be done and both, GO+CO wear them in their neck. These keys can not be touched by anyone other than the custodian.
You sure that IA, IAF is also using the same protocol?