Indian supersonic missile reached Mian Channu in Pakistan : ISPR

There's some strange sh*t happening lately, this missile, Iran's missiles hitting Iraq, that random drone that landed in Croatia.
 
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This wasn't a screw-up. It was a deliberate launch.

Missiles don't just get into launch positions and accidentally launch. The fact that the missile itself flew all that way says even a target was selected before the launch. Without a target, it's unlikely for it to launch either. Even the trajectory has to be pre-decided.

Missiles aren't like guns, you can't accidentally press the trigger and make it go off.
 
This wasn't a screw-up. It was a deliberate launch.

Missiles don't just get into launch positions and accidentally launch. The fact that the missile itself flew all that way says even a target was selected before the launch. Without a target, it's unlikely for it to launch either. Even the trajectory has to be pre-decided.

Missiles aren't like guns, you can't accidentally press the trigger and make it go off.

Yup.
Had it been like what happened in US Tomohawk case , we could had implies that this was a misfire.
Because without any target the missile will burn in air and then fall down and they could had get the scavenge also.
But this one hit a building .Means it was programmed.
 
Im speculating here with very little know how, maybe software update could be done in the field but the software alone doesn’t launch the missles there are number of mechanical steps obviously.
That training angle gone wrong doesn't explain how co ordinates of the target were fed into the system. Why would such co ordinates for targets across the border be fed into a missile in training mode minus a warhead?

At the same time an article in The Print linked here

“There was no NOTAM issued and missiles are not fired from Sirsa, contrary to what has been alleged by Pakistan. Such trials don’t take place, as all trials are held on the eastern flank and from the Andaman and Nicobar Command,” another source said. A NOTAM or notice to airmen is a warning issued to alert pilots of potential hazards on a flight route or at a location that could affect the flight.

quotes an unnamed source stating that all trials of this nature & presumably training are carried out at the ITR & never at the base.

If this was an audit then it went horribly wrong as the target would've been expected to be in India which going by the article isn't possible as no NOTAM was issued & such trials aren't carried out at the base in any case or this could be a targeted strike which seems unlikely for there's been no immediate cause for it , going by the recent precedent established by this GoI unless they're putting into action a new doctrine of pre emption which in my view is very unlikely.
 
That training angle gone wrong doesn't explain how co ordinates of the target were fed into the system. Why would such co ordinates for targets across the border be fed into a missile in training mode minus a warhead?
I take it that all the missiles are preprogrammed with a library of targets and Geospatial maps ( Maps explained by PKS long ago in one of his comments, he mentioned only a few countries have access to the constant update of the maps rest of them use an old version of maps so INS isn't as reliable as GPS when it comes to ground-hugging paths. this was mentioned in the context of Airforces plaining raids).

Maybe new targets can be added right away but they should already be having a few options available to select as part of the launch SOP.

print article:
"They said that the missile has multiple geo-locations of targets fed into the system, which need to be selected or new ones added."
 
Was it on the way to one of the air bases, before it was self destructed, taking out few old buildings?
 
I take it that all the missiles are preprogrammed with a library of targets and Geospatial maps ( Maps explained by PKS long ago in one of his comments, he mentioned only a few countries have access to the constant update of the maps rest of them use an old version of maps so INS isn't as reliable as GPS when it comes to ground-hugging paths. this was mentioned in the context of Airforces plaining raids).

Maybe new targets can be added right away but they should already be having a few options available to select as part of the launch SOP.

print article:
"They said that the missile has multiple geo-locations of targets fed into the system, which need to be selected or new ones added."
Doesn't take away from the fact that this wasn't a training mission gone wrong & it couldn't have been an audit too. You don't conduct an audit by firing a live missile so close to the international border of a N armed state with whom you have an inimical relationship.
 
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Lately it seems like someone(s) is trying to start a global conflict. A lot of very unpredictable and unlikely military incidents.
 
Lately it seems like someone(s) is trying to start a global conflict. A lot of very unpredictable and unlikely military incidents.

No itsnot like that.
Now the West is concerned about the Russian invasion and majority of other nations also.
So some nations are clearing the backlogs.
It seems ours is one and startedsomekind of hit jobs
It seems to be a hit job against some HVT. To ensure that a deniability is maintained, the warhead was removed. Pakistanis were informed within an hour. It took them time to clean up the area of all the telltale signs of anyone being killed. The removal of warhead was important to avoid anykind of collateral damage to civilian population. The normal warhead size of land attack Brahmos is close to 400kgs. You can imagine that entire village could have been taken out if the missile had the warhead fitted. It seems to be a very calculated and well planned strike which struck only the targeted buildings and brought them down thru its sheer kinetic force.
Possibly.
The way our Govt and Pakistans reaction concluded it very well
 
You did not get my whole point. I am telling you that it was not an accidental launch but a well planned launch. The Keys are kept in separate lockers. The GO of the ship keeps it in his personal locker and the CO in his personal locker. These keys are withdrawn and a log entry is made whenever a missile launch is to be done and both, GO+CO wear them in their neck. These keys can not be touched by anyone other than the custodian.
Let's assume what ever is said is correct? What Pakistan can do after this?
 
No itsnot like that.
Now the West is concerned about the Russian invasion and majority of other nations also.
So some nations are clearing the backlogs.
It seems ours is one and startedsomekind of hit jobs
I understood that the missile didn't hit any particular target though, or did it? Was this an accident or not?
 
I understood that the missile didn't hit any particular target though, or did it? Was this an accident or not?
Paddy , you've been on an Indian forum for so many years that you ought to know in Indo Pak matters nothing is as it seems.
 
I understood that the missile didn't hit any particular target though, or did it? Was this an accident or not?
This diplomacy is bit different.
Pakistanis diplomatic relation with us is bit different than any other relation with us.
We have conflict with Chinese but we both are dealing in a mature way and we hope we can reach a solution with Chinese .
Any other countries follows the same way.
But Pakistanis they are far different and immature at it best level.

Everyone understands what just happened when they invited medias ,that too after 1.5 months ,after strike in Balakot.
They went to at insane level to cover it up.

Its more depends on the religious superiority complex and their inferiority complex when they compares with us.
That how they taught their people.

March 1 one Kandhar Indian Airlines Hijacker shot dead, everyone knows what just happened but they told media to donot report it .


This missile hit a building because it had a target .
Probably we wont ever know what just happened.
But it seems somebody got some tough message and we had anticipate the response also.
 
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The media insider of this government has confirmed the embarrassing *censored*up. No need to second guess at this point.

Pakistani questions are legit. Why was this not communicated through proper channels before the Pakistani claim?

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Yes obviously since they are receiver and we are the pitcher in this case. Shoe on other foot, we would do the same.

But what has been (is and will be) communicated and when etc to Pakistani side is not going to surface pristine to PR, media and laypeople like us.

The specifics of what specifically went wrong here will not be aired out or communicated past the investigation generalities/resolutions (that a few specific Indian higher ups will precisely give, knowing the dissemination contours).

Past all of that, this will take contours of another grey area for debate and all the conspiracy theories it will promote, grow and nurture on whatever side. That is par for the course anyway.
 
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Outstanding. Absolutely close to reality... 😊
This video is really interesting. What is it that the PA is hiding? Possibly a HVT which got eliminated and the PA can blame it on an accident from their training aircraft hitting the warehouse, instead of admitting a Missile Strike by India. The fact that they admitted it 48 hours after it happened, to get time to do the cleanup shows that the PA is trying to hide a lot. What best India can expect from an enemy to avoid doing the explaining.

First from ground, then from Air, and now by Missile. Way to go India!! Kudos!

Pakistan denied the loss in Surgical Strike, admitted to loss of some Pakistani Crows and fallen trees from Balakot Air Strike and now acknowledges a missile without a warhead at Mian Channo. This is what India wants in an enemy, the one who shoves its head in the sand to avoid danger. PM, NSA and HM must be having a blast day!